Hupp36 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Brought my 1929 Hupp Model A to Fl hoping to trade it for my friends 1932 Hupp Model S. IThe model S is pretty much original, I love original cars.I will post a pic of the Model S if I can strike a deal.Here is a pic of my 1929 Hup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarredKnightfan Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Very nice ... good luck with the potential trade! Cort, www.oldcarsstronghearts.com pig&cowValves.paceMaker * 1979 CC to 2003 MGM + 81mc "Everybody's looking for something" | Eurythmics | 'Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 Took the Hupp out for a ride in 80 deg weather. Did not steam but got too hot for me .Before we came down to FL, I took a radiator up to Auburn Me to L&A radiator shop and had them clean and flow check it.. I decided to swap them yesterday . Took it out for a test run at 80 deg. It buy the heat gage which is brand new got just under 160 deg. I have full confidence that the over heat problem is solved. Selling a car to anyone , I had to be sure it was OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 The real test for my 1929 Hupp is to go to see a fellow who restores Pierce Arrows to see if he can make some new bushings to replace the pot metal bushings in the steering column of the Pierce I could make the new bushings but I do not have a machine shop down here at my disposal as I do have in N.H. The trip will be 42 miles round trip..If the trip is successful, we will more than likely do the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Chuck, Lets see some pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Will do, when we go on our ride tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Well , we went and the car over heated. Back to finding the problem. When I get it fixed, I will keep you all informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 On your steering column issue, I was able to fit a caged roller bearing in the steering column of my '33 Pierce Arrow in place of bushings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Wow, I guess the next step is to remove the steering column and see if we can replace the bushings with roller bearings as you have done. Thank you for your import. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I had to weld something on the shaft to serve as a stop to keep the bearing from falling all the way in and I had to grind some of the lower cage to get it in. You need the shaft sixe and the ID of the column and if you are lucky they might make one that fits. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Back to the Hupp First, my friend thought that may be that the fan belt may be slipping. Got a new fan belt. I kept looking at the fan and thought that the pitch was not very aggressive. It just so happened that I have another Hupp here. Its a 1931 Hupp model S. Checking the fan showed me that the pitch was more aggressive. Installed it on the 1929 A. Ran it at idle for 20 min. Temp was 80 deg. out side temp. The gage went to 158 Deg. in side the car. Will take it for a ride tomorrow to see if that will solve the over heat problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Talked with my friend yesterday and he is thinking of having the Model S upholstery done over and some chrome plating done. He said that he is going to keep the S no trade. After I have fixed the over heat problem with the A, I will go to some Fl shows and hopefully sell it. Then I will be able to finish the 1926 Ajax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ok, Friday went for coffee to my friends house about 8 miles from my house. The heat gauge never got to 160 deg. Same way on the way home. This morning went to breakfast with the coffee gang 16 miles round trip. Looked at the outside temp on the in side, ,out side thermometer wow, 90 deg out.Car temp under 160 on the trip. After thinking about the 1931 Model S chassis I remembered that the engine splash pans had louvers in them.I think the Hupp engineer's had an idea to let the hot air out of the engine compartment via these louvers. I am going to either louver the one on the 1929 Hupp A or install the ones off the Model s. See pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Chuck, I'm delighted that you seem to have resolved your overheating problem, but I believe that cars of that vintage NEED to run at about 160* to minimize acidic oil contamination. Our OIL temperature needs to be high enough to permit some of the normal by-products of combustion to vaporize and thus exit the crankcase. OIL temperature is definitely affected by coolant temperature. If my cars maintained 160* at a run at 90* ambient temps, I'd be thrilled! As a rule of thumb, I *expect* running at cruising speed temps on hot days to be 100* over ambient--that is, I'd be expecting 190* on a 90* day. So I am puzzled by your desire to remove even more hot air from your engine compartment by adding louvers. Are you running a thermostat? Do you have a t'stat controlling radiator shutters? Or a poppet-style t'stat? I'm not a fan of the old ether-filled stats in non-shutter systems, and I convert to either modern poppet stats or use an in-the-upper-radiator-hose 160* stat from Restoration Supply. The latter are sized for a 1.5-inch upper hose, but you can make an adapter from a very short length of stick hose to fit a larger diameter upper hose. My experience with dust/splash pans is that they are an essential part of the cooling system. My usual problem has been overheating while driving slowly such as in parades, because with pans the car needs to achieve some speed (i.e., 25-30 mph) to create a vacuum to pull hot air out of the engine compartment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) George, thank you for you input, I may be trying too much to get the car running cooler.I think I should run it for a while as the engine rebuild has only about 200 miles on it. I just need to know that when i sell this car that the new owner will get a car he or she can use. Cars are made to drive and have fun with. I again want to thank you and the members that have helped me with this problem. Its great to have such a sounding board as the AACA Forum. PS, I still have to work on the 27 Pierce Arrow now that the Hupp is ok. Edited December 18, 2016 by Hupp36 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Well we will see what the New Year brings, going to Sumter Antique Car swap meet. Hoping to sell the 29 Hupp. It may be the oldest car for sale.I have had good luck at this meet as I sold my 1923 Willys Knight there 3 years ago.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well , a lot of lookers, but no sale, but I did take some pic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Beautiful car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 First of all, I would like to thank the AACA for providing this great service. The Hupmobile has been sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Our Grand son & his lady friend get the last ride before I deliver it to its new owner tomorrow morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Nice pictures! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 The new owner calls me, the car will not run. the starter just whirls. I tell him that the bendix is broken or a bolt on the bendix spring is broke or has falling out. I go down to his house and sure enough one of the bolts on the bendix drive is gone.I replaced it with a grade 8 bolt and start the car. He wants to adopt me. Ps, he still loves the Hupp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Well done, Chuck! Congrats on keeping the buyer happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Got a call from the new owner, he is going to have the car painted, his sweet little lady would like a lighter color. She has a green house filled with orchids of beautiful colors . It is plain to see that she likes beautiful colors. I will post a pic when I see the new paint .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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