PWB Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, 60FlatTop said: The Eldo is a better car, better than the Riviera or the Lincoln. And it has enough engine to get it down the road respectfully. I had a '70 in Ruidoso Saddle. It had hints of maroon I liked that color. Hey, is it me or does the Riviera match everything around it? Even the garage... I'd say yes and no. Kinda like Cary Grant (Class Act) at the mountain cabin in North by Northwest. Odd, but works! Great get away car, anyway. Edited November 23, 2016 by PWB (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I'd like to hear from some Toronado owners from the late '60's. 455 cid with 400 hp. Got to be a ride and a half. How did the Eldorado perform next to the Toronado? Both had 400 hp but it took 500 cid for the Caddy to produce it. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RivNut said: I'd like to hear from some Toronado owners from the late '60's. 455 cid with 400 hp. Got to be a ride and a half. How did the Eldorado perform next to the Toronado? Both had 400 hp but it took 500 cid for the Caddy to produce it. Ed Dunno, but my uncle (who was a car nut; he used to drop Maserati engines into Corvairs ) had one and said it was great. Edited November 23, 2016 by KongaMan (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 18 hours ago, PWB said: Gorgeous Caddy, Mr. John. Congrats! I think that generation has one of the longest front ends? Just awesome IMO. Post some pics of yours when you get time. - I think a classic Eldo' is in my future. Retirement project! I have always liked these: http://syracuse.craigslist.org/cto/5864900305.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I had both a '70 Eldorado and a '66 Toronado. I would buy another of either. They were nice drivers. The Cadillac was hard to stop on snowy roads, but in '71 they made the brakes better. It weighed 5,000 pounds and would pitch into a tight curve. Sometimes it felt like it might stand up on the outside front corner. Rear passengers felt a little closed in by the blank sail panels, a little dark back there. I got 12 MPG. It was a great car. The Toronado was a 425. It drove very well. "66 was the only year that really keynoted the Cord. I loved the looks of the car. It drove very well. The vacuum headlights were a pain but that's all I remember not liking. The difference between a 400+ and 500 engine under normal driving conditions is never really noticeable. Getting into a 307 or the like is when it shows. And the 307 is big by today's standards, 5 liters. They rarely go that large, and it is a little dog for anyone who grew up with torque engines. Running a 4" bore on any engine and just a nudge to the pedal gives response. All the big ones feel good. Cadillac entered the 1970's with 472 and 500 inches, then 425, then the '80's with 250. You don't need reports from Motor Trend to figure out the good ones. Braille on the seat of the pants will do fine. I bought one 4100, but I prefer abstinence. Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 On 11/22/2016 at 0:47 PM, PWB said: Gorgeous Caddy, Mr. John. Congrats! I think that generation has one of the longest front ends? Just awesome IMO. Post some pics of yours when you get time. - I think a classic Eldo' is in my future. Retirement project! The 1974 Eldorado just got delivered today. It went directly to the mechanic's for a thorough going-over, because it hasn't been run much in 4 years. It will need new bumper fillers also. Here's a picture. The paint color can best be described as "caramel." That color I've never seen on a Cadillac, and therefore it's more interesting to me: Not resale red, but keep-it-and-enjoy-it gold! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 That is one handsome cruiser. Love the hubcaps too. Clean. Just my opinion but I don't like to see lug nuts. I've seen the bumper fillers new on the 'net, cant remember where.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfloro Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) John, Your 'new' Eldorado is just magnificent. It is stunning in every way...! Those wheel skirts really add to it's class. I can't vouch for this vendor but they supply the bumper fillers for your car. '73 - '74 Eldorado Bumper Fillers Eldorado Bumper Filler Installation Keep us posted. More pictures please! Paul Edited November 25, 2016 by pfloro (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the bumper-filler source, Paul. I've printed it out and put it in my file. Considering the body shop's scheduling, I think my car probably won't get there until sometime in the coming year. Edited November 26, 2016 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 7 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said: The 1974 Eldorado just got delivered today. It went directly to the mechanic's for a thorough going-over, because it hasn't been run much in 4 years. It will need new bumper fillers also. Here's a picture. The paint color can best be described as "caramel." That color I've never seen on a Cadillac, and therefore it's more interesting to me: Not resale red, but keep-it-and-enjoy-it gold! I love GOOOOOLD! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzH15hwt48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarredKnightfan Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Congrats on your new Eldorado, John ... LOVE that color. As for the 1985 Buick Riviera ... a cousin in PA had a gray version ... & I must say, I LOVE that gold FAR better. My goodness that is GORGEOUS. Course, I prefer browns-tans-golds ... earth tones. I'm not much into the FWD Rivs, but that gold one ... if I had the $, I might consider it. Cort, www.oldcarsstronghearts.com pig&cowValves.paceMaker * 1979 CC to 2003 MGM + 81mc "I wanna drive" | Trace Adkins | '(Her Favorite Color Is) Chrome' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) On 11/26/2016 at 11:11 PM, ScarredKnightfan said: Congrats on your new Eldorado, John ... LOVE that color. ... if I had the $, I might consider it. Thanks, Cort. For the patient buyer, there are MANY interesting old cars for sale. If one is priced too high, there will always be another. Sometimes cars catch my eye even when I wasn't specifically looking for that model. Even though I'd like to, I can't own them all! Hope this gold 1985 Riv finds an appreciative home. Edited November 28, 2016 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 8 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said: Thanks, Cort. For the patient buyer, there are MANY interesting old cars for sale. If one is priced too high, there will always be another. Sometimes cars catch my eye even when I wasn't specifically looking for that model. Even though I'd like to, I can't own them all! Hope this gold 1985 Riv finds an appreciative home. Yes, like this IMPECCABLE '73 Eldo' Better than new? Just don't see these anymore. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Cadillac-Eldorado-2-door-coupe-/272463363779?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f7014fec3:g:mo0AAOSw4GVYLlq3&item=272463363779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 I saw that nice black one recently, but it's for sale by a dealer who has it 'way overpriced. My philosophy above: "If one is priced too high, there will always be another!" For some reason I like "carriage roofs" (half vinyl roofs) on Eldorados of this vintage better, instead of full vinyl roofs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 On 11/28/2016 at 5:25 PM, John_S_in_Penna said: I saw that nice black one recently, but it's for sale by a dealer who has it 'way overpriced. My philosophy above: "If one is priced too high, there will always be another!" For some reason I like "carriage roofs" (half vinyl roofs) on Eldorados of this vintage better, instead of full vinyl roofs. I'll bet that full roof cover makes one quiet, peaceful ride I think I found my retirement model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarredKnightfan Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 On November 28, 2016 at 7:45 AM, John_S_in_Penna said: Thanks, Cort. For the patient buyer, there are MANY interesting old cars for sale. If one is priced too high, there will always be another. Sometimes cars catch my eye even when I wasn't specifically looking for that model. Even though I'd like to, I can't own them all! Hope this gold 1985 Riv finds an appreciative home. I hope so, too! & ... oh my gosh ... I'm living that "Even though I'd like to I can't own them all!" ... I would trade THAT desire if I could just DRIVE them ... if that makes sense. You are welcome! Cort, www.oldcarsstronghearts.com pig&cowValves.paceMaker * 1979 CC to 2003 MGM + 81mc "The children want to know why we hung the mistletoe" | Ronnie Milsap | 'It's Christmas' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 After 5 years, this story has an interesting ending: I bought the car! Here's the unusual story. I often save print-outs from car ads. That way, I can call later if I want to. I first saw the ad in 2016; I called to check in 2017, and the price was the same. Just recently, it occurred to me to check on this car, since the color is attractive and unusual. After 5 years, the seller was serious, wanting the garage space. In fact, THAT VERY DAY he had just taken pictures of the car for an on-line auction. (See pictures below.) He cut his original price by $1000; I agreed; and the car arrived just yesterday in Pennsylvania! Most cars don't remain for 5 years, but this worked out remarkably. And I really appreciate that metallic gold color! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 A gold Riviera -- what's not to like? Persistence pays off! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZRIV Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 That's quite a story John. Thanks for following up. Sounds like it was meant to be. Congratulations! I know Ray Knott has said numerous times for anyone looking for a Riv to check back issues of the Riview classifieds. Probably not too uncommon to find something after a year or maybe 2 but agree, 5 years is really something. Just goes to show you can't ever assume and it costs nothing to ask. All they can say is it sold. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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