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32' Oldsmobile Deluxe Convertible Roadster

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I finally had both my cars out and in the same place, my driveway so I took a picture. My son will be here next week with his girlfriend so we are going to take both out for our own little tour. My daughter will be riding with my son in the chevy while Michelle and I finally take a ride in the Olds. After we’re back, the Olds will be getting a good spit shine top and bottom as it will be making its debut with the National Antique Oldsmobile Club at the National show in Lansing on July 22-24. It hasn’t been cancelled yet so I’m looking forward to getting out.

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On 6/25/2020 at 10:08 PM, chistech said:

After we’re back, the Olds will be getting a good spit shine top and bottom as it will be making its debut with the National Antique Oldsmobile Club at the National show in Lansing on July 22-24. It hasn’t been cancelled yet so I’m looking forward to getting out.

Good Luck Ted !

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Hi Ted. The cars look great outside. The Chevy looks bigger than the Olds. We had a few nice weeks of Spring weather on Long Island. I took the Studebaker out for a long ride the other day with no hiccups. Feels great to get out and drive the Champion. Good luck with the Oldsmobile Club National in Lansing.  Hope everything goes as planned , and isn't cancelled. Both cars are stunners! John

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Actually John, the Olds is longer and taller than the Chevy but doesn’t look it in the photo for some reason. If you look at the back edge of spare tires on each car you’ll notice the tire on the Chevy is back beyond the door hinge line and the Olds is more than 6” in front of the hinge line. That gives you a good idea on just how much longer the nose is alone. I think the hood panel is almost 47” long on the Olds.

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Ted, I was looking through a list of automotive first, and the 1932 Oldsmobile had the first thermostatic automatic choke in the Industry. Great looking cars. 

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I just came across this thread today and was amazed by the great restoration completed on the '32 Olds.  It is one beautiful car.  Best of luck with it at the National Antique Oldsmobile Club national meet in Lansing.  

Look forward to when I can see this beauty in person.

Tim 

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On 6/28/2020 at 7:42 PM, John S. said:

Ted, I was looking through a list of automotive first, and the 1932 Oldsmobile had the first thermostatic automatic choke in the Industry. Great looking cars. 

That choke was made by Stromberg and others like packard, Cadillac, and others got them later. Olds has had many firsts throughout the years but many don’t realize it and those firsts are not often mentioned. While many think Ford was the first with an assembly line it was actually Olds. Olds has the first production turbo car beating the Chevy Corvair by about one month. Oldsmobile was GM’s red headed step child. If they kept quiet, they’d leave them alone. If they developed a successful item, it was put on other GM Marques and written up on those marques brochures like they were the first to offer it. Another interesting story is the stop on racing that GM put on all their Marques. A dealer in MA who supported racing Olds, which was not approved by Olds brass, helped develop with two local drag racers, the 442 model and platform. Another, Like the experimental olds F88 sports car, on the same chassis as the 53-54’ vette but powered by the Olds V-8, power windows and retractable hard top, it was a corvette killer so the Chevy brass had GM kill it and ordered all them destroyed. Harley Earl was pissed and had one completely disassembled, crated, and shipped off to his friend from Cord, Auburn, and Duesenberg where it was found and reassembled into a 3 million, one of a kind, car back around 2000. 

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Hi Ted, I found this nice pic on The Old Motor today and thought of your car.

 

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Thanks for posting that pic Neil. What kind of unique about is that it’s a dealer promotional photo rather than a factory one. Many of the factory promo photos were taken pre production and are missing or have  things that were added or removed for actual production. This photo was originally taken as part of a dealer add describing the service offered by Ziegler Olds. That service featured mechanics who rode the motorcycles shown out to the customers location. They would then drop the training wheels on the back of the bike and clamp the tow bar on the front to the rear bumper. The mechanic would then drive the car, towing the motorcycle, back to the service center. Perform the service, then drive the whole thing back to the customer, returning to the shop on the motorcycle.

      The description of this scene lists the car as an 8cyl model but I don’t think it is because the bell housing appears to be too far forward and in the location a 6cyl would be. The car shows plenty of road dirt on the backside of the fender well yet there is no license plate on either front or rear as both brackets being visible with the rear just above the rear fender of the motorcycle. My assumption is the roadster was probably a dealer demo car. It has the SS narrow trim rings an the chrome spoke covers, both accessories, yet doesn’t have the metal spare covers. The pin stripes are visible and so is the cigarette cream paint door saddle under the woman’s arm. There is a factory promo photo that is missing both, again on a black roadster. This picture is a great asset when blown up for pinstripe research. Many 32’ Olds owners have  pinstripes on the radiator apron top line but it’s clear to see this car does not. The car in both yours and the below picture were done as the standard or common, triple black, paint, interior, and roof. My car had remnants of the original roofing material and it was the optional tan whipcord. You can see in the picture below the cigarette cream door saddle is missing and there doesn’t appear to be any pinstripes. The wood wheels are painted and when the picture is blown up, the sprocket design on the wheels is visible. The issue comes in is the factory paint chart lists the sprocket pattern as being cigarette cream which it definitely isn’t in the picture. This is why it’s difficult using factory promo photos for the basis of an OEM restoration.

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Ted, Really enjoyed your detailed explanation and knowledge. Very interesting about the motorcycle. Do you know what kind of bike that is?  George

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Thanks for that explanation, Ted.  Very interesting, as George says.  One difference I noticed between your car and the cars in both the photo I posted and the one you posted is that the hood louver doors are solid color in the posted photos instead of being chrome-plated like yours.

 

George, according to The Old Motor, the bike in the photo is a Harley "equipped with a Cycletow conversion kit."  

 

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=118925

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Here's the page and the article that Neil found. It has the story in more detail. If you research "cycletow" you will find out more. Again, the article calls the car an 8 cylinder and it may be. The motorcycle is listed as a single cylinder Harley Davidson. There is no noticeable difference with the 8 cylinder roadsters vs. the 6 other than a chromed white metal "8" attached to the Oldsmobile emblem on the headlight bar and rear tail light stand. The 32' hard top cars are easier to tell because they also had two wipers vs. one on the 6 cylinder cars. The 32' Olds chassis were all made the same with two set of holes punched for the rear bell housing/engine mounts cross member. If the car was built with the 6 cylinder, the cross member was riveted to the front set of holes, the 8, the rear set of holes. The 6 cylinder bodies had a straight firewall and the 8's had an indented firewall. There are exceptions to that rule as the year went on and sales were bad, many 6 cylinder cars got left over 8 cylinder indented firewall bodies! The eights, being more expensive didn't sell as easy so the bodies were evidently sitting there.

 

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=118925

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LOL, Looks like Neil and I were thinking the same. The chrome hood doors were also an option too that I chose to go with along with the chromed stone guard. All the 32' Olds had black radiator louvers regardless of the body color and to me, my black roadster would be "too black", so I added the chrome doors and stone guard. I think the car looks much better than it would with all the added black.

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Thanks for letting me know Steve. About a week ago the group Pre War Restoration and Preservation made it the cover page photo so I expect it got a lot of coverage where others have shared. Hopefully it will be able to make a AACA show this year for it’s senior.

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No, it was cancelled about 8 days before I was supposed to leave out for Michigan.☹️

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