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2 hours ago, John_Mereness said:

By the way, if you want to talk FREE cars - here is another:

 

Lot 1100 - 1930 CORD L29 BROUGHAM

Friday - January 17, 2020

$55,000.00 * No Reserve Scottsdale 2020

The Cord L29 was one of the most distinctive cars ever produced, thanks to the extra-long hood necessitated by the straight-8 engine and front-wheel-drive system. 3-speed manual transmission mated to a 299ci straight-8 Lycoming engine.
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Another one where buyers can't see the car for the colors. A paint job would be pricey, but this car, like the green Packard dual cowl phaeton, is one of those cases where some re-coloring work would probably pay for itself (unlikely that this car needs/deserves a $50,000 paint job).

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13 hours ago, alsancle said:

That might be the best deal yet.

 

The new owner showed up the ACD forum on FB recently, understandably excited about his purchase.  Interestingly, he said he knows very little about the car and was looking for as much help as he could get.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/ACDClubGroup/ (1/19 post)

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4 hours ago, 1935Packard said:

 

The new owner showed up the ACD forum on FB recently, understandably excited about his purchase.  Interestingly, he said he knows very little about the car and was looking for as much help as he could get.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/ACDClubGroup/ (1/19 post)

 

First advice is to get off of facebook.

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1 hour ago, alsancle said:

 

First advice is to get off of facebook.

 

Nah, all that car needs is a small block Chevy, a TH350 transmission, an Edelbrock carb, and some Cragar mags and it'll be killer!

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19 hours ago, Matt Harwood said:

 

Another one where buyers can't see the car for the colors. A paint job would be pricey, but this car, like the green Packard dual cowl phaeton, is one of those cases where some re-coloring work would probably pay for itself (unlikely that this car needs/deserves a $50,000 paint job).

Correct, other than wrong colors and aged restoration there really is nothing wrong with the car.  I would guess to say my first project would be seeing if I could save the whitewall tires and then painting the wheels a darker maroon or maybe dark brown (or pulling them off and going up to Dayton Wire Wheel and getting them chrome plated  - but car is pretty "brightly lit" already) - the 1970's carryover orange would have to go one way or another.  Otherwise, my assumption is that it will need some sorting due to long term storage.   I am not sure an L-29 is a for a novice, though certainly easier to deal with than an 810/812 - until you need a part for it and problem is L-29 sources are few and far between.   Still, it is hard to get a decent L-29 for this money, so I would say Free car.  

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Car looks decent........if you fit in it the price was fantastic. I agree with the clean up, sorting, and change the wheel color. With a bit of effort, the car would be a very nice driver and tour car. Interestingly, the brown and orange wheel color was popular in 1930 & 1931 with Cadillac......lots of their open cars were done in brown or black with the orange wheels. Never could figure out why......

 

 

The official color name..........Burnt Orange Moon!

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On 1/22/2020 at 10:54 AM, edinmass said:

if you fit in it the price was fantastic

Ed, a L-29 Cord Sedan or Brougham has an adjustable front seat (with no connection to the center door pillars) - and you can relocate the tracks if you need more room.  Getting in and out is usually still a chore.  Steering and pedal position probably also have some adjustment, but probably never anything that would work better than exactly where is now - or at least that has been my experience with 20's-30's cars. Problem with Cord L-29's though is the general lack of parts. 

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On 1/23/2020 at 12:07 PM, John_Mereness said:

Ed, a L-29 Cord Sedan or Brougham has an adjustable front seat (with no connection to the center door pillars) - and you can relocate the tracks if you need more room.  Getting in and out is usually still a chore.  Steering and pedal position probably also have some adjustment, but probably never anything that would work better than exactly where is now - or at least that has been my experience with 20's-30's cars. Problem with Cord L-29's though is the general lack of parts. 


Lack of parts doesn’t bother me, I just usually make what I need..........I was very close to becoming an owner of an ACD car recently......very close, but at the last minute it didn’t work out. There is always next time.

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On 1/23/2020 at 12:07 PM, John_Mereness said:

Ed, a L-29 Cord Sedan or Brougham has an adjustable front seat (with no connection to the center door pillars) - and you can relocate the tracks if you need more room.  Getting in and out is usually still a chore.  Steering and pedal position probably also have some adjustment, but probably never anything that would work better than exactly where is now - or at least that has been my experience with 20's-30's cars. Problem with Cord L-29's though is the general lack of parts. 

 

Another cool car I would own if not for my dad's biases and putting peer pressure on me.    He's a total 810/812 zealot,  as he feels the performance of the L29 is sub par.   I think the performance relative to all  peers in 1929 is probably fine,  save a few of the very high end cars.    Could someone who has driven one give us their impressions?    Is there much difference between the early cars and the later higher HP  engines?

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2 hours ago, alsancle said:

 

Another cool car I would own if not for my dad's biases and putting peer pressure on me.    He's a total 810/812 zealot,  as he feels the performance of the L29 is sub par.   I think the performance relative to all  peers in 1929 is probably fine,  save a few of the very high end cars.    Could someone who has driven one give us their impressions?    Is there much difference between the early cars and the later higher HP  engines?

L-29 has similar problem as the RR PI - wrong gearing = 50-55 mph and you are topped out via being all out of gears. What is worse than RR is that L-29 is less engine CID matched to FWD not allowing such as addition of an overdrive.  I found the RR PI allowed you pretty snappy performance - until you ran out of gears.  Someone at a point in time (1970's or maybe 1980's) made higher speed gearsets, but apparently not many sets made and supposedly only give you 5 - 7 mph more. 

 

I know plenty of people that have had them and are not complimentary.

 

And then there is Ken Clark who really puts time into them and his cars are complimented as easy to drive cars.

 

I think a lot has to do with how well one rebuilds the Gemmer steering box too.

 

My dad is fairly good about Cords via being around them - says if anyone can master one I can.  He is quick to point me in other directions though too. 

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17 hours ago, edinmass said:

I was very close to becoming an owner of an ACD car recently......very close, but at the last minute it didn’t work out. There is always next time.

I wish it would have become a reality - Very different from what you have been doing in cars, but for everyone I know who has bought one it turns out to be a delightful experience too. 

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1 hour ago, John_Mereness said:

I wish it would have become a reality - Very different from what you have been doing in cars, but for everyone I know who has bought one it turns out to be a delightful experience too. 


John, I had been looking for an 810 or 812 for a while, then when we bought the 851 speedster I decide on an Auburn........I got my fingers on one a short time ago......but it ended up not being the “right fit” for me. I’ll find something sooner or later.........

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