vicpanza Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Hi folks: I found what the seller believes is a 1934 Dodge pickup in the MN area. In speaking with him, he gave me an engine serial number that made little sense (DR-40I42), and I have not yet received the VIN number. In looking over various resources, appears that if the engine is original, it should have a T5 code. Also, have some general info regarding VIN numbers. Does anyone on the forum have experience with this year, and can you give me some direction on VIN and engine serial numbers. I am obsess with original vehicles, and if I'm going to make this type of commitment and investment (who am I kidding calling it an investment), I just want to make sure I am starting with an original truck. Also, if there is anyone in MN who might be willing to have a look at this for me, it would be a huge help. I am in Pittsburgh, and would really like to get an experienced opinion as to eyes on condition, etc. Thanks Vic Panza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwellens Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 See if attached data helps. IMG_20160821_0001.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lincoln Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 The DR serial number points to the motor being out of a 34 DR Sedan /Coupe` etc. {My Sedan`s number is DR69790} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicpanza Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 12 hours ago, hwellens said: See if attached data helps. IMG_20160821_0001.pdf Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicpanza Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 8 hours ago, Ken_Lincoln said: The DR serial number points to the motor being out of a 34 DR Sedan /Coupe` etc. {My Sedan`s number is DR69790} Thanks. That's what I suspected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicpanza Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 Thanks for the feedback. I just received this from the seller: VIN - 8025488 Eng. DR-40-I-42 VIN number looks like a 1935, not a 1934. And appears to have a Dodge car motor. I am curious as to perspective on this motor. How critical is it for most of you that these vehicles have their original motors. Am I making too much of this? I have added some pictures of the truck and will appreciate any feedback from the group 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicpanza Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 Correction: VIN number is correct for Feb 1934 build. Anyone have a spare 1937 (T5) motor laying around:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 hour ago, vicpanza said: Correction: VIN number is correct for Feb 1934 build. Anyone have a spare 1937 (T5) motor laying around:) The engine is from ma 34 car. The Vin # makes it a late Jan or early Feb on 1934. Correction: 34, not 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1935 Dodge Van Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 OK here goes from what I've learned over the years of owning and restoring a 1935 KCL: The truck you are thinking of buying does not have an original box on it from what I can tell. The headlights are off something else. The dash instruments are from the 1933 Dodge car and indicates this truck is an early production. Later 1934 KC/L trucks would have a dash with large round holes for the instruments which were shared with the Airflow series of trucks. It should indeed have a T5 coded engine. A letter and $25 to the Chrysler Archives would get you the build ticket and it would give you a wealth of info including the original code for the engine (which could have been T12 but is unlikely.) The front fenders of ALL 1933,'34 and '35 1/2 ton trucks use the front fenders from the 1933 car and are somewhat easy to acquire. The rear fenders are UNIQUE to the 3 years of trucks and are impossible to find. You would have to repair what you get. The front bumpers are repro'd. The headlight stantions appear to be correct. The crankhole cover and the Ram rad cap are available. The hubcaps are most likely the "flat" 1933 car style and are out there. The windshield frame and the running boards are repro'd as well as the rubber for the boards. Anything else please ask I might be able to put you in the right direction. You're looking at $20K to restore it,YOUR labor being a large part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 The truck was made in Detroit in late Jan or early Feb of 34. Vic has a copy of the build sheet stating it was made Feb with the T5. We have the rear fenders in 18 gauge steel with many other parts that we have are available. Hubcaps, crank cover, ramshorn, int kit etc. Here is the truck in the Chrysler Museum that we sold and restored in 98-99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, 1935 Dodge Van said: OK here goes from what I've learned over the years of owning and restoring a 1935 KCL: The truck you are thinking of buying does not have an original box on it from what I can tell. The headlights are off something else. The dash instruments are from the 1933 Dodge car and indicates this truck is an early production. Later 1934 KC/L trucks would have a dash with large round holes for the instruments which were shared with the Airflow series of trucks. It should indeed have a T5 coded engine. A letter and $25 to the Chrysler Archives would get you the build ticket and it would give you a wealth of info including the original code for the engine (which could have been T12 but is unlikely.) The front fenders of ALL 1933,'34 and '35 1/2 ton trucks use the front fenders from the 1933 car and are somewhat easy to acquire. The rear fenders are UNIQUE to the 3 years of trucks and are impossible to find. You would have to repair what you get. The front bumpers are repro'd. The headlight stantions appear to be correct. The crankhole cover and the Ram rad cap are available. The hubcaps are most likely the "flat" 1933 car style and are out there. The windshield frame and the running boards are repro'd as well as the rubber for the boards. Anything else please ask I might be able to put you in the right direction. You're looking at $20K to restore it,YOUR labor being a large part of it. Welcome to the site. Show us your truck. We love pictures. Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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countrytravler Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Couple of 35s at a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vicpanza Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Thanks for all the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicpanza Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Really, thanks again for all this info. Lots of great pictures and videos. Two questions: are the wire wheels correct for this year, and what is it about the box that makes you believe it's not correct. I see the headlight issue. Really appreciate everyone's feedback and all the details you've picked out. Seller did have a build card and original engine code is T5-3193. Build date is Feb 5, 1934. So how difficult to find a T5 coded engine. Other then the serial number, this engine would be identical to the truck model? Not the horns on this, assume they are correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicpanza Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Noticed that the top cover on the dash is missing. Did this have a crank out windshield similar to my 1937? Seems like the cover will be another difficult piece to find?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Looks like the same bed as the other trucks pictured to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) On 8/23/2016 at 3:33 AM, vicpanza said: Noticed that the top cover on the dash is missing. Did this have a crank out windshield similar to my 1937? Seems like the cover will be another difficult piece to find?? 1933 to the 1st series 35 has the push out windshields. 2nd series cab did away with the soft top and converted over to regular hung doors. They also went to a crank out windshield. We sell the windshield cranking mech for the cars and trucks from 35 to 38. We have the molding that goes across the dash. Late 35 to 36 has the crank our windshield and the 3 hole gauge. Sometime in late 35? they added a glove box. Edited August 28, 2016 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 At the .50 shows the push out windshield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, vicpanza said: Really, thanks again for all this info. Lots of great pictures and videos. Two questions: are the wire wheels correct for this year, and what is it about the box that makes you believe it's not correct. I see the headlight issue. Really appreciate everyone's feedback and all the details you've picked out. Seller did have a build card and original engine code is T5-3193. Build date is Feb 5, 1934. So how difficult to find a T5 coded engine. Other then the serial number, this engine would be identical to the truck model? Not the horns on this, assume they are correct? Horns on the outside like the red 34 pictured above was an option. We have the horns, stands, and the correct headlights. Edited August 23, 2016 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, countrytravler said: Horns on the outside like the red 34 pictured above was an option. We have the horns, stands, and the correct headlights. Wire wheels are correct for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30dodge35 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Nice 34 , if DAVE doesn't have what you need, Chuck Minio may have out of Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 34 Dodge pick and tow truck. Then check ours below this post. Edited June 13, 2017 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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