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What does rare mean to you!?

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To me, the word -rare- is used a bit too much nowadays!  What do you consider rare?  Would this coupe fit your critical definition!? 
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Some cattle humor, with a gorgeous, 2-tone GMC pickup:
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Which of these 2 smart promo models would you rather have!?
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A surprising street-eye level view of Metro City:
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To me, rare means either single digit production or rusted out so fast there are only single digits left.

 

Rare does not necessarily mean desirable. Sometimes it means no-one wanted one.

 

Rare does not mean an option mix unless it involves overhead cams or lotsa gears. (GM could have built a million 69 Chevvies, no two alike).

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It means I haven't seen one for twenty-five years.  Exceedingly rare means I have never seen one.  I guess that could be interpreted "Rare to Me."

 

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Does not mean one of six built with a coat hanger delete over the rear doors. Has to be something major.

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I prefer "Pittsburg".

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This car is rare.. It is a car for a car collector.. or a museum.. Not much more..

 

I think rare is all about bragging rights .. I have it..

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4 hours ago, Skyking said:

Pink on the inside.......

 

I like mine medium well!

 

That was the example I was going to give, I myself like mine rare, cold red center and bleeding

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If I'm buying it's "impossible to find parts for".  If I'm selling it's "rare".

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Does"rare" also mean "limited"? which you find on a million cars today.......

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That's when someone has one and thinks it is and doubles the price to see if anyone else agrees.

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Rare only means that few still exist. That does not equate to valuable or production numbers.

 

I would agree that "rare" is way over-used. Color combinations, IMO, do not make a car rare. 

 

One of our rarest cars, the 1933 Continental Flyer, is the only know LHD driver in the western hemisphere that's roadworthy. There is a singular RHD in New Zealand.

 

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Quite often, rare means that almost nobody liked it.  So very few were sold.

 

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22 minutes ago, Mark Shaw said:

Quite often, rare means that almost nobody liked it.  So very few were sold.

 

Or maybe too expensive to buy in the beginning, so did not sell well....

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1 hour ago, keiser31 said:

Or maybe too expensive to buy in the beginning, so did not sell well....

 

Or it was just a real bad car had no resale and were off to the junkyard as soon as a repair exceeded the value of the car, which was not all that much . Take the Vega for example, they made well over a million in the run, other then the Cosworth's (apply the too expensive reason on those, $500 less then a Corvette, and $1000 more then a Camaro) when was the last time anyone saw a Vega that was not modified? . My uncle had a Vega Kamback wagon he used  as a commuter car and junked it because it needed new tires and the car was worth less then the cost of the tires. He was a police officer in the South Bronx in mid 70's his reason for using it was even the car thief's would not steal it they had such a bad rep

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I agree with all the reasons so far...but adding more..

 

My 32 Nash is the rarest car I have owned.  Body number 38. 

 

-it was not proportioned "typically", it's more of a European open car style. It also is "out of proportion", with a Waterhouse style super long door/super short Coupled rear body, but unfortunately it used the shorter 6 hood.   I think many went to South America as the style seems more accepted there.  I found no others in the USA, but 2 in South America so far, in 8-9 years of looking

 

-it was the smallest of 7 different sized Nash chassis/engine models....entry level model.

 

-But the special 5 passenger open car body, placed onto a cheap chassis with smallest engine, put the price in a very bad place from a salesman's point of view.  I think a person would spend the same $ for the smallest 8 Nash, with a not so expensive body.

 

-and it appears this body had plywood sills which hastened their demise, and were junked, not saved

 

...even the sales brochure illustration seems to try to hide it's "uncomfortable proportion" problems.  But it is my favorite car I have owned, as I really like the front half....it is such a high end styling treatment on such a "lower priced" USA 32-"anymake" chassis.  I know it is not valuable, but I don't care.

 

 

 

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I love the convertible Victoria body style.  I would say Waterhouse is my favourite.  Your car is very cool Frank.

 

Rare for me depends on what era you are discussing.

 

1.  For prewar cars,  I think of rare cars as those built in single digits.

 

2.  For musclecars, I think of cars built in numbers measured in 10s and engine/transmission combo counts.  For example,  16 RAIV GTO Converitbles built in 1969.

 

I'm ok with using rare as a qualification for an option but not the whole car.  For example,  73 Gremlin with rare factory air conditioning.  That is different than calling the whole car rare because of the A/C.

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19 hours ago, nick8086 said:

 

Not found in large numbers..

I think that really says it all :)...no need to make things complicated.  I think the trouble comes when rarity is conflated with value.

 

They made tens of thousands of 65-66 Mustang convertibles, not rare by any stretch, but for many decades they have had greater value than similar cars of the era.  If you find a triple-black one though, that color combination in that car would genuinely be rare, and would definitely increase the value.  If you find a green one with red interior, that color combination in that car would also be genuinely rare, and would definitely decrease the value.

 

Rarity really has relatively little to do with value.  I can think of a number of cars that are not rare and all and yet are highly desirable, and valuable.  And, I can think of a number of cars that are rare by any definition that aren't considered desirable, and have relatively little value.

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19 hours ago, Skyking said:

Pink on the inside.......

 

I like mine medium well!

My mom used to tell a story (a true story, according to her, and I have no reason to doubt it) about a country neighbor that went to Richmond, VA, maybe about 1920 or so, to visit some cousins who had relocated there earlier.  The waiter was taking their orders and they ordered steak, rare.  He had no idea what rare meant but he didn't want to be different so he ordered his "rare."  When it was brought to him, he informed the waiter, "See by dogs, you can take mine back and rare it over."   

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23 minutes ago, john2dameron said:

My mom used to tell a story (a true story, according to her, and I have no reason to doubt it) about a country neighbor that went to Richmond, VA, maybe about 1920 or so, to visit some cousins who had relocated there earlier.  The waiter was taking their orders and they ordered steak, rare.  He had no idea what rare meant but he didn't want to be different so he ordered his "rare."  When it was brought to him, he informed the waiter, "See by dogs, you can take mine back and rare it over."   

I never really thought about it until now, but how did the word rare apply to how meat is cooked?

I remember eating raw chop meat as kid (and I was a city kid!) Now I could never imagine anyone feeding their child raw chop meat

As far as cars....big block Chevelle's were rare to see when they were new, now they almost seem to be a common car.

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3 minutes ago, John348 said:

I never really thought about it until now, but how did the word rare apply to how meat is cooked?

I remember eating raw chop meat as kid (and I was a city kid!) Now I could never imagine anyone feeding their child raw chop meat

As far as cars....big block Chevelle's were rare to see when they were new, now they almost seem to be a common car.

And if you believe what you see at car shows, all Chevrolet Novas and Chevelles built after 1967 were SS models.

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