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Jeff, angle iron is only legal for use on Crosley FOR's metal bending! 

Today I finished drilling all the holes in the floor and spot welded the brace on the underside of the floor.  It is the first time I used the spot welder, dad has had it at the building for years and I never knew it was that easy to use!:unsure:  Now the floor is on the chassis and in position to be attached to the front clip.  I will drill the holes for the 10-32 screws that attach the floor to the toe board and then the sides will be installed.  Why Crosley used screws to hold the two together is a mystery as once the sides are attached you can't separated the front clip from the tub area???:unsure::rolleyes: 

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I got more done on the FOR today.  Started to spot weld the side panels to the floor!!:D:D  The passenger side is creating a problem because the fuel tank brackets are in the way of the spot welder, was only able to get the 3 spot welds at the rear of the panel.  But the drivers side went really nice.  Spot welds every 2", should hold it pretty good!  Once I get most of it spot welded I will remove the entire body from the chassis and put it back on the cart and finish spot welding everything. 

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I did a little more spot welding this morning, getting as much as I could with the body on the chassis.  Fewer vice grips holding it together now.:P:D  I will put a few welds on the front upper side panels where they meet the front clip and also where they meet the rear panel and it will be ready to lift off again!

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Paul,

The spot welder is a Dayton 2Z544  240V, from what I have seen it was made by Miller.  It was on a stand but that would have been too hard to move the FOR around to make that work.:P   I will say that it works pretty good, I tried it on some scrap metal and couldn't separate them after they were spot welded!  Dad had bought it at an auction years ago and probably didn't pay much for it.  It sat at the building and I asked him about it the other day and he said he had tried it and it worked years ago.

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That's really slick, Dale. Thanks for posting the pics.

 

My Dad had one something like that, but was much older (probably from the late 1940s), came from the old dealership. We never used it at home, didn't really have anything to spot weld.

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Today I finished spot welding the places I couldn't get while it was sitting on the frame.  The body is pretty solid now.  I have a few spots on the front fender extension on the passenger side that I replace a few weeks ago that I need to weld to the fender up underneath.  I also want to put a stiffener on the side panel on the passenger side were the spare tire mounts, will just be a piece of 16 gauge metal about 2" X 4" spot welded on the inside of the side panel at the front corner.

No pictures today.

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Today I did a little test roll on a small piece of metal for the hood.  I rolled the piece around a 4" piece of PVC pipe.  The scrap piece of metal was only about 8" wide, about one third of the width of the real hood, but it bent exactly as I wanted it.  Now to decide if I should try it on the real piece. 

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Being only 22" wide it may not be too bad. If it was wider it would get harder to roll.  More mass requires for force.  You may have some spring back after you roll it due to the width.  I would go a little past 90d and see where that will get you if your shooting for a 90d roll.  Cold rolled is easier to work with than hot rolled.  

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Just a little progress to report today on the FOR.  The lower front panel had two pieces of metal that were cut out to clear the tires.  I cut new pieces and welded them in, well almost got them both welded in, ran out of mig wire.  Slowly but surely I am getting all the little things taken care of.

Also a picture of the practice bend on the hood.  I am about ready to attempt it on the real piece as soon as I clear off the workbench...:ph34r:

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SUCCESS!!  The hood is now bent!  I am very happy with the way it turned out, now if I can get all the little bits and pieces on it without distorting it.

To all those that offered ideas on how to bend it, I thank you!

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More progress made on the hood today.  I formed the rest of the front panel and got it to fit the way I want it but I haven't welded it in yet because it needs a small piece on the bottom flap to keep the hood from sliding forward and side to side.  I made the extra supports and guide for the rear of the hood and installed them.  A few little things to go and I will have a hood for the FOR!:D

I will probably have to mig weld the front panel on the hood because the arms for the spot welder are not long enough to reach from the back of the hood up or wide enough to reach from the front.

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Great to see the FOR back o' the forum again.  If I recall articles I've seen about the FOR, didn't it have a lot of accessories, like farming implements, dually wheels, and items like that available?  Do you have any of those accessories or do you plan on finding any?  Would be interesting to see this thing plow a field, like you see demos of the Farmalls and John Deeres doing sometimes.  Maybe I'm just thinking of early CJ-3 ads, too.

 

  Also, great work so far!

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Had a very relaxing holiday weekend at car shows and cruises!  Took the 1958 Continental to the Western PA Region car show in Latrobe on Sunday, it is always a great show and even though it was hot it is in a nice park with plenty of shade trees.  Lots of nice cars too   Then on Monday evening took the 1966 Mustang to a car cruise in the Greensburg Kings Restaurant, again it was hot but we sat in the shade of the building and enjoyed the music and company. 

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This week has been nice and busy for the shop but that doesn't leave much time for work on the FOR.  I'll take it though, because it pays the bills...:D  Along with being busy it has been exceedingly hot and humid around here making it hard to work.  But I was able to get a little work done on the FOR today, I started stripping the paint from the front fenders and lower dash area.  Fenders look pretty good now, a little sanding and should be ready for primer and filling.  The lower dash area will need more stripper applied to get the paint off.

I also did some measurements on the front latch for the hood, looks like I will be fabricating it also as I put out a feeler on the Crosley web page and I haven't got any responses yet.  I didn't expect too either.  If anyone has a hood latch that looks like the one pictured let me know. 

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Just a small report on the small FOR today.  I was able to almost finish the hood for the FOR today, added the side support metal and the alignment tabs at the rear of the hood.  I also notice that my FOR must be different than my brother in laws as the tab on the passenger side wasn't doing anything so I had to add a small piece to the body so it could help align the hood.

Next project will be to attach the front part of the hood, I will have to use the mig welder to weld some of it on as the spot welders arms are not long enough.?

I also got some good news today from a fellow Crosley FOR guy, can you guess what that good news is? 

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While the rain was falling, and falling and falling outside (over 8" of rain since Sat. am), I got some work done on the FOR today.  I cut and removed the last piece of bad metal on the front panel near the grille area.  Then cut and welded a new piece in and smoothed it all out.  Then I lifted the body off the cart, all by myself, and stood it on its nose so I could use paint stripper on the foot well area.  Now all the paint is removed except for in the engine compartment area.  

I also cut and spot welded a stiffener plate on the lower right side of the side panels where the spare tire bracket will mount, just as a precaution.  

I also run the wire brush some on the inner fenders to clean them up a little.

And the winner is Jeff for guessing what was the good news.  Fellow Crosley club member Jeff Ackerman sent me a PM stating he had a hood latch but it needed a spring, but I could have it.  He shipped it to me no charge and told me to just make a donation to the Crosley club for our "Youth Projects".  A check will go in the mail soon!!!  For those of you that don't know about our Youth Projects, the Board of Directors of the Crosley Club select youth and mentors to restore Crosleys and then when the project is completed, the title for the vehicle is transferred to the youth who completed the project.  The club, Crosley parts suppliers and its members donate money and parts to restore these cars(which are also donated to the club), the youth supplies the labor and sweat-equity.  We are now on our 3rd and 4th Youth project!!!

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Yes the youth project is an amazing thing for the youth of our hobby!

A little progress to report today, I laid the first filler on the underside of the rear portion of the tub and smoothed it up some. 

Now to get it back up on the cart!

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Primer!!!  I wasn't planning on putting any primer on yet, but the bare metal couldn't wait any longer with the high humidity we have been having.  It surface rusted overnight?, so I sanded the rust off, prepped the metal and put a coat of primer on the bottom.  Now I can get it back on the cart and sand and prep the top for primer.

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