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More work on the Hupmobile and the Thunderbird.  Finally got good enough weather to paint the hood and fender on the Thunderbird.  Now to repair the bumper cover and put it back together.  Once I get it back together I can resume working on the FOR as the cart will be free from Thunderbird parts.:D

Was working on the Hupmobile trying to get it ready for a car cruise this weekend.  I drained the transmission and refilled with grease and topped the rear end off.  I put a filter on the fuel line ahead of the fuel vacuum canister thinking there would be rust and dirt in the fuel tank, well it seems to be spotless as the filter is clean after running it for about 30 minutes, but the car would stave of fuel and after checking things out the fuel bowl was empty.  After checking out a few things I discovered the vacuum canister was rusty inside, so apart it came.  cleaned it up and now it seems to be running good.  I am slowly installing the hubcaps and it is looking pretty good.  Unfortunately, I don't think I will have the Hupmobile at the cruise this Saturday as I need a generator cutout and will have to order one.  

I did find the oil filter but there is a problem with it, the fitting on what I think is the bypass value is broke off.  It would be nice to have the filter on the car, just so I can show off the old style filter, so if anyone has a fitting like in the picture let me know.  Otherwise I will mount the filter just for looks and bypass it as it is now. 

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Still working on the Hupmobile and Thunderbird.  I got the hood and fender installed on the Thunderbird today and freed up the cart, so I hope to put the FOR back on it and start back on its restoration.  I installed a new generator cutout on the Hupmobile and fired it up and the generator is charging as it should be so now it is time for a test drive.:D  Will be the first time behind the wheel of it and I am excited!!

Installed one more hubcap, so now the passenger side is complete.

And I am in charge of making the dash plaques for our car cruise on Memorial Day so the wood is on the running boards, any flat surface in my garage gets stuff laid on it.:P

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Well, it happened!!!:D  I got the Hupp out and took it for a short run down a side street today!:)  Wasn't a long run, but it ran pretty good!!  Felt good to be behind the wheel and driving it.:D:P:):lol:  Now to get it to it's first car show in years.

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Took the Hupmobile to its first show in about 20 years!  Was quite the hit at the memorial Day car cruise to benefit the Children's Hospital Free car fund that our club runs.  Lots of other nice cars there too.  Hupp ran good to and from the cruise.  Also had the 1949 Crosley Hotshot and the 1977 Covette there.

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Well, it is time to get this thread back on track.  I picked up several sheets of 16 and 18 gauge sheet steel to redo the tub and missing hood on the FOR today.  So hopefully I can start cutting and bending it this week and get this show back on the road!  Stay tuned.

July 12-14 we were at the Crosley National meet in Wauseon Ohio.  We took the Cow car, a 1946 Crosley sedan that has been primed to look like a cow and it has horns.  I hadn't had it out to the nationals since the last time CC's (1946-1948) Crosley's were the spotlight class.  Took some work to get it running again.   As you might be able to tell I like to have fun with the cow car...:P   Everyone enjoyed it and we even had cow tails to give away!

I hope to get the Hupmobile and Crosleys to a couple show and cruises this weekend also. 

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Laying out the new floor pans for the FOR today, 16 gauge cold rolled steel.  I was hoping to have the metal shop where I bought the metal put some bend on them, but they didn't have a brake.:(   Was talking with a fellow club member and he said he had a brake that might be able to bend it (not sure if it was long enough).   I am using the old floor from my brother in laws FOR, so I hope the holes are in the same place.:P  Once I get the sheet all marked I think I will lay it on my frame just to make sure the holes line up.  Feels good to be back at it.:D

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More progress to report on the FOR today.  I checked the floor panel from my brother in laws FOR on my frame and all but the two frame holes lined up perfectly.  Must have had a fairly good jig at the Crosley factory...  Of course, my brother in laws FOR and mine are only 2 numbers off on the serial number.  Made the adjustments on the new floor and I should be good to drill all the holes.  I started cutting out the shifter and PTO holes and also got the side panels rough cut out so I can get the 90 degree bends put on the panels.  The club member has a brake and it has a 42" maximum and I can take the metal to his place to bend them so I wanted to get as much ready as possible.  Hopefully in the next day or so I can get them bent and proceed with fabricating the tub. 

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Yesterday I went to the club member house and we put several bends in the metal.  The floor panel has two 90 degree bends on each side and I will have to bend the front at a 45 degree angle to meet the firewall.  I had another piece of 16 gauge that we bent 45 degree angles on each side that will be cut off and welded to the rear of the floor panels to meet the rear of the tub.  I also had a 18 gauge piece that I had cut to the approximate size of the side panels and we bent 90 degree bends in them for the bottom edges.  One I got the panels bent I started to cut out the battery box hole and that's where things got good.  The blade for the craftsman saw broke and last night I went shopping for new blades. 

Went to the local hardware store and they had no blades that would fit a Craftsman saw (has a "t" type mount), so I decided to go to Kmart as they sell Craftsman tool.  Only blades they had there that fit were for wood, and only one pack at that.  As we were leaving Kmart my wife said lets try Giant Eagle, as they had just opened a Ace hardware.  Went in and they had the best selection of blades of all three stores, having the blades that I needed for my Craftsman saw, and several different blade types too.  Talked with the gentleman there and he also said that Giant Eagle also exchanged broken tools there.  Hard to believe that Giant Eagle has more hardware than a hardware store!

Today put the new blade in and finished the cut on the battery cutout, looks good.

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Looking good!  I noticed you wrote instructions to yourself (bend and a dotted line) on the sheet metal... isn't that cheating?  I thought we were supposed to do all that from memory?   ...and by memory, I mean doing it wrong and thus doing it over and over so many times you've memorized it. ;)

 

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Yes, notes are a good thing.  I put the dotted line and bend on there so I didn't cut it off at that line.:P  Did you also notice the top and bottom markings??  I put those there so that when I bent it I would be bending it the right way, so all the holes that are marked and cut are on the right side of the car.  I usually stay up at night and think of all the things I need to do the next day, how to bend this, how to cut that, how to do this...  Then the next day I am too tired to do it.:o

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58 minutes ago, dalef62 said:

Did you also notice the top and bottom markings??  I put those there so that when I bent it I would be bending it the right way, so all the holes that are marked and cut are on the right side of the car. 

 

I don't do much bending of sheetmetal on a brake, just small pieces for rust repair panels. But sure have learned to check myself about 4 times to make sure the bend direction is correct! I use CAD to lay out the patches (Cardboard Aided Design  :) ) so having the cardboard template right there with me while setting up for the bend helps a lot.

 

Floors are looking good Dale, keep the pictures coming.

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4 hours ago, Luv2Wrench said:

...and by memory, I mean doing it wrong and thus doing it over and over so many times you've memorized it.

Yes, you have now practiced doing it wrong eleventy-seven times and only come near right once. So how will you ever remember how to do it right? :unsure: Been there too often!

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Took the Hupmobile to a local car cruise last evening.  It was a beautiful night and there were about 50 vehicles shown.  The Hupp ran good and made it there and back without any problems.  The best part of the cruise was that there was another Hupmobile there also, a 1925 3 door.  Hope to get to another cruise today!

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After a great weekend of car cruises I got back to work on the FOR.  Made the front bends in the floor and cut the side panels in half (from the solid sheet that was bent last week).  I have clamped the one side piece to the FOR to mark it and now comes the task of bending the top edge around to match the original.  Feels good to be working on it again.

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Today I started bending the lip on the rear panel.  I clamped the metal in between two angle irons and started slowly hammering the metal around the angle iron till it was bent 180 degrees.  Turned out pretty good, needs some final massaging and possible cut some of the lip off so that it is the right length. 

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More progress on the FOR today.  I got one side panel beat into submission (the top lip bent).:o  The more I do the easier it gets.  It will still need some finish work but looks like it matches the original pretty good.  Now to the other side...:D

I also got a hood, now my brother in law needs a hood!:ph34r:

Even more progress today.  I continued working on the left side panel and got it cut and bent to shape, it is almost ready to install now.

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More progress today on the FOR tub.  I got the other side panel bent and ready.  I test fit everything together on top of the old tub and am happy with the way everything looks.  I still need to trim the lips on the side and back and add a small piece to the rear section of the floor. 

I then proceeded to remove the original tub area from the front of the FOR.  Came off without too much fight.  If you are interested in the old tub, let me know.   It is looking pretty bare now!

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Today seemed to be very productive in the FOR world.  I stayed busy on it all day long and got both lower fender areas repaired.  This is the passenger side, actually I did it last but the pictures won't load so the driver's side will be in the next post.

Once I cut off the old rust lower fender I saw that the floor support was also rusted off and had to replace it too.  Then a new panel was cut and fit and welded in, I sprayed a little bit of rustoleum black on the bracket and metal edges to keep them from rusting any more.  I still need to get the spot welds on the leading edge of the new panel but I will do that when I lay the body on its side.

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Ok, here are the pictures from the drivers side.  It wasn't as bad as the passenger side and needed just a small repair.

That is all the rust on the front part of the FOR, everything else is good and solid.

 

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Went to car show at a local church with the 1957 Skyliner and 1966 Mustang.  I was the DJ, spinning the tunes.  Weatherman said a very, very slight chance of rain, we got dumped on for about 30 minutes. The retractable got second place.  I must be popular as the interior still needs lots of work.

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It's back!!!  I rolled the chassis back into the garage so that I could sit the body on it when I start welding the rear tub area back on.  I was asked to make a template of another Crosley member of the floor area with all the holes so that is what the paper is for. 

Not much work has been done on the FOR this week, but business has been good.  Need that to keep the bills paid, which keeps the work commencing on the toys!

This Saturday the Kiski Valley Region will be having a car cruise at our local Dairy Queen.  We take a picture of each vehicle that comes in in front of a backdrop and at the end of the show we present them with it on a custom wooden dash plaque.  I will be busy getting ready for this event for the next couple days as last weekend I blew a speaker on my system and I need to get it fixed for Saturdays cruise:o, plus I have to get a lot of stuff down to the Dairy Queen before the event.

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Started working on the hood for the FOR.  I cut out the main piece and the front of the hood, still need to cut several small pieces that will be used for stiffeners and such.  I am trying to figure out how to put the radius on the hood.  I was thinking of using a 6" diameter pipe to roll the metal over to get the proper radius, but I am not sure if it will give me a nice smooth roll.  I am afraid that it will not be a nice smooth bend like the original. 

Does anyone have any ideas on how I should go about bending it? 

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It’s hard to tell from the pictures - does the hood narrow in width from front to back?  If so, I ran into a similar problem and discovered the  compound curve was way above my pay grade.  I needed a skilled metalworker to help me out.  If the hood is an equal width throughout its length, you may be able to pull it off using the pipe method.

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It is equal width front and rear, Taylormade.

Went to our Kiski Valley Region car cruise today.  Had a great time, not as many cars as we would have liked, but lots going on in the area.  Took the 1929 Hupmobile, 1949 Crosley Hotshot, and 1966 Mustang convertible. 

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I got a little work done on the FOR today.  I did a little trimming of the side and rear panels where the lip is rolled around them.  It was about a 1/4" too long so I took my cutoff tool and cut the extra off the entire length of each piece.  One step closer to welding the tub together.

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Holey Cow!  Oh wait that is the other Crosley...  I have been busy drilling the necessary holes in the floor panel for all the mounting points for the seat brackets, fuel tank, frame and such this morning.  It will be much easy to do it now before I attach the side panels and attach it to the front section of the body.  I still have 3 bigger holes, one for steering column, one for fuel tank filler neck and one for the emergency brake, to drill yet, but I forgot the hole saw bits at home.:ph34r::(

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Test fit!  Today was the day that I have been thinking about for quite some time now.  The body is on the chassis, even if it is just temporary.  I sat the front clip on the frame and then built the tub area with vise grips.  Things fit fairly well, a few adjustments will be needed but all in all I am very excited!  Now to get the final piece of the floor cut and welded in at the very rear, which is the main reason I had to put everything together to see how much more floor I need.

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I have a little progress to report today on the FOR.  I worked on the rear section of the floor today and got both pieces made to finish off the floor.  Now I will tear everything apart and weld the pieces in and smooth it up and it will be ready to assemble again for hopefully the last time.

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I tore everything apart and welded the rear pieces to the floor and I am now in the process of grinding it smooth.  Looking pretty good if I say so myself.  Won't be long till it all becomes one piece!:D

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