dalef62

1950 Crosley Farm O Road Restoration and more

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Today was a nice day with highs in the 60's, even had the garage door open trying to dry things out from the rains yesterday.  I did more work today on the dash panel.   I stripped off the old paint, dollied some of the rough areas and put a thin layer of filler on it.  Should be ready for primer soon.

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I did some more work on the dash for the FOR today.  Got it sanded and test fit it on the body, it fit with a little massaging.  Also did a little more sanding on the steering column support.   Making progress one part at a time!

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I spent the morning looking for parts that are needed for the FOR.  I needed to find the transmission I will be using and I also needed to find a usable ball from a shift lever.  I need the gear shift lever, the emergency brake lever, the PTO lever and the HI-LO range lever machined with threads for the knobs.  My machine shop guy is retiring and I hope to get to him before he sells all his equipment.  I hope I'm not to late!

Does anyone know what the ball will be used for on the emergency lever?    

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Just a small report today on the FOR.  Took all the round bar to the machinist last week and got it all back on Sunday.  He threaded the bar stock and got it ready for me to do final work on it.  He is going out of business so I had to get it done ASAP.  He has been a machinist since 1948.  He is selling his equipment and retiring again!  As expected he did a great job.  I had an extra set of PTO and Hi-lo shifters made as another member of the Crosley club needs a set.  New is on the left and samples from brother in laws FOR on the right.  First bar is the emergency brake lever, then the little round ball which will slide on the emergency brake lever, then the shifter extension, then the PTO and hi-lo shifters.  

Had a busy week last week that I don't want to repeat any time soon!  On Monday, we had a small fire in our church, not much fire/water damage, but smoke damage is worst.  Then on Friday my air compressor quit working and I am without heat at the shop as my waste oil furnace uses air. Things will get better...

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More great progress, despite all the things life throws at you.

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Doing a little cleanup on the transmission and finding some problems with it.  First picture is the transmission that came with the FOR/less the top, second picture is a transmission that has been laying around for several years in my shop.  I had planned on using the one that has been laying around but there is a problem with the bushing on the input shaft...(forth picture)  there isn't one!  The one that was in the FOR has the bushing but there is plenty of play(last picture).  Now that my machine shop has closed up and sold his equipment, (some of which was bought for scrap!!!!!) I may need to find a new shop to get a new bushing machined.  Other than the missing bushing and possible wear on the output shaft where the bushing runs it is in remarkably good shape. 

Maybe I will go to plan "C", take the transmission that is in the convertible and use it as I think it is good...  It ran well when I used it several years ago???? 

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NO! Make a good one out of those two. Don't mess up another (running?) car to make that one run.

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Spinneyhill,

I pulled the motor out of the convertible for the FOR!!!  😁  The correct motor for the convertible has the matching VIN for the title, which I pulled out because it didn't run.

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I'm shifting gears on the transmission today. Pun intended!!!  I was looking through my stash of parts and came across another transmission and checked it out and it looks good to go.  It pays to have been collecting Crosley parts since 1978!!!  I probably have 4 or five more transmissions laying around...  I'll give it a coat of paint and it will be ready!!!

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It is ready to install.  The shifter rod will need painted yet but I have to weld the extension on first.  Now to clean up the engine.

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I was able to get back the the Crosley engine today and stripped all the accessories off.  I give it an initial cleaning with gasoline and now it is ready for deep cleaning and trying to get the paint off the aluminum.  I will not be rebuilding the engine as it was running good the last time I had the convertible out.  I may take the intake and exhaust off of it and the side pans and valve cover but the rest will stay, including the distributor as to remove it I will need to remove the pan and I don't want to do that.  The last picture shows the engine number, Crosley guys will know what it means...  lol

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Dale, help us non-Crosley guys out with the engine number meaning. 🙂

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Paul,

That engine is an early engine, June 1946-December 1946.  It would have originally been a tin block engine (COBRA COpper BRAzed ) that was rebuilt by Crosley at a later date to retrofit to the cast iron block.  It doesn't have the oil fill tube on the distributor side of the crankcase either. 

I may be rethinking the decision to use that engine though.  I have pulled the original engine out and taking a closer look at it.  When I got the FOR I tried to start the engine and it wouldn't fire.  Compression was down on a few cylinders, but it may have been because the valves were not seating due to rust.  So I am soaking everything down with transmission fluid to try and free things up some.  Will give it another compression test in a day or so and see where the numbers are.  I also found a bad rotor on the distributor that may have been another reason it didn't start, but I thought I had spark????  We will see what happens in the next couple days.

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Dale, I don't know if your FOR has hydraulics but something to check. Mine had hydraulics and they were not put back on and was missing the piece that drives the pump from the front pulley. My Dad had swapped engines and didn't remember an adapter. When I cleaned out his stash of Crosley stuff I found the original engine with the adapter still attached. It is just a disk with two pins that attaches to the front crank pulley. Could be made but it was nice to find if I decide to add the hydraulics.

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Yeah, I will definitely be saving the bracket and pulley parts if I use another engine.  

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Did some work on the original FOR engine and found that the cam was out of time with the crank.  After several tries got it to fire and run for a few seconds.  The next thing to do will be recheck the compression on each cylinder now that it has run for a few seconds ( was 75 psi after I got it in time) then clean it up if that checks out.

For those that don't know, the Crosley engine uses an over head cam and a tower shaft to drive it from the crankshaft.  The tower shaft is in the area just under where the "CR" are on the word Crosley.  The Crosley block is also quite different from other manufactures in that the block and head are one piece.  To do a valve job you must tear the engine completely down, crank out, crankcase off, pistons out, then you can get to the valves.

The weather is warming up around here, but I have been slowed by a cold and hope it goes away soon so I can do more work.

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You have been in Crosleys long enough you probably know this. It might take a few cold warm cycles to loosen up the rings. If it is valves, yep a lot of work.

 

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Didn't realize that the block and head were one piece on a Crosley. I knew the OHC was driven by an interesting shaft and bevel gear arrangement, which (to me at least) seems so much simpler than a chain drive with its associated tensioners. 

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Today was a good day for getting some things done on the FOR engine.  Things checked out on the compression and I pressure washed it yesterday and then stripped it down today.  Got all the accessories off it and blasted a lot of them.  Now to fire up the powder coat gun and get some of them powder coated, and the rest painted.  I have hi temp cast iron powder coat for the exhaust manifold and I will powder coat clear the intake and water outlet.  I will spray gloss black on the oil fill tube and bracket for the the pump. 

Jim Bollman, does that bracket look factory for the pump, with the torched out notch for the oil filter line fitting?

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No notch in mine just a lot of grease. Since I have never put the hydraulics back on I have never gotten around to cleaning it up.

 

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Yours looks slightly different than mine.  Looks to have gusset at the corner, and the part where the pump bolts up is notched different.  Does your engine have the oil fitting on the side of the crankcase?  That is why someone notched my bracket.  Either Crosley or fly by night mechanic... 

What # is your FOR? 

Had some extra time this afternoon to powder coat the exhaust manifold.  Another part ready to install.

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MIne is a 51 SN FR-285.

 

I'd have to pull some engines out to find the right one but I don't have an external oil filter if those are the fittings you are talking about.

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Today I was able to get some "Crosley Gray" on the block.  Still need to paint the oil pan and valve cover.  Looks good.  Soon it will be going back together.

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I am getting a pile of parts that are ready for paint.  

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