mcdarrunt Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Great project with one question: did the blue print for the drag link get wadded up and they copied it that way or are they naturally that snakey from the factory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thanks. Drag links are naturally snakey! Same with the Crosley Hot Shots and Super Sports, they look like a wet noodle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Some progress to report on the FOR. I have been prepping the frame for a coat of primer, hopefully the last, and I started making the battery box. I have the front and rear of it cut out and have the bends in it, now I need to get the angle iron and get it welded together and weld it in the frame. I have also cleaned out all the filler from all the bolt holes. So maybe by the weekend it will have a fresh coat of gray primer on it and be ready to final sand. Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 More work on the battery box today. I got some 1" angle iron and cut 4 pieces 6 7/8" long and began the welding process. I wasn't sure if I wanted to clean the welds up after I was done or leave them as finished. I think I will leave them as finished so they match the rest of the welds on the frame. I didn't have to try to hard to make crappy welds. Now it is ready for a coat of primer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 The frame has another coat of primer, and hopefully the last. Looks pretty good, will need a complete sanding and then on to black paint!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Sand, sand, sand... As my wife says "You have more paint on the floor than on the car." There are a lot of nooks and crannies that make it hard to sand. The sanding process is about half way done on the top side of the frame. Then I will flip it over and finish sanding and then clean it thoroughly and prep it for gloss black. Anyone want to help sand?? I am happy with how it is looking and will even be happier when it gets color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Looking good Dale. But have to say you are a much more patient man that I am. I hate sanding stuff -- especially something like that frame, as say with all the nooks and crannies. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 With all the effort and time you're putting into the frame it will look great when you finally paint it. Good job Dale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Thanks for the positive comments! Got the frame flipped over this am and began the sanding on the bottom side. Go it finished this afternoon and now I need to clean it for paint. Lots of scrubbing and cleaning to get all the sanding dust out of all the holes and crannies. Maybe this Saturday I will be able to get the black paint on it. I have been trying to decide how to go about painting it to get into all the tight spots. I have thought about hanging it but it would be even harder to flip it while hanging. Or leave it on the horses and paint one side (top up), then let it dry, then flip it (bottom up) and paint the other side? I plan on using single stage enamel paint. Does anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Dale. It looks like you have leaf spring mounting points on each corner. When I painted my frame i put a steel rod thru the holes and supported the rod with jack stands. I also used the Rust Oleum Professional grade gloss black paint from Home Depot. A gallon will set you back about $30-$40. It's oil base and flashed out to a nice semi-gloss finish when it dried. Hope this gives you an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Simmons Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 You could attach two short 4x4"s 1 each vertically from the floor to your saw horses. The length would be up to you. Drill a 1/2 to 3/4 inch hole in the 4x4 through the center of it and insert a 6 -8 inch long bolt. Tighten it in the 4x4 with flat washers and nuts. Select a hole in the center of the end cross member and mount it to the 4x4 with a flat washer and nut. Touch up on the end cross members would be easy once the the frame was dry and back on top of the saw horses. A cheap twirler for light weight frames. Or two motor stands, one at each end but they might be a bit short for the width of the frame on it's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Mark and Martin, both were good Ideas but I decided to paint it on the horses. I will flip it over and paint the bottom side and it will look better than new, oh darn, I have over restored the frame... LOL Looks pretty good, once i get it flipped over and finished I will have to find some place to store it while I work on the rest of the chassis and then start bolting it back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Simmons Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Can someone over restore a part that is mostly out of sight on a restored vehicle and won't be seen until the the next restoration is attempted? I don't think so. Besides the next guy will jumping for joy at the work he won't have to do. Good job dale 62, keep up the good work !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Mark, Most cars are over restored, just thought I would bring that up as there was a thread running about "Bling" and over restoration. Most cars are over restored and I feel, as well as other, that this hurts the cars during judging that are not quite as perfect as those over restored cars. I was always told to judge the car like it would have appeared on the showroom floor and in my eyes that could be with blemishes, orange peel paint, runs, unfit panels, very light mist coats of paint on engines, frames and other items, etc. It is very hard to remember that these cars were not made to be displayed on a show field and judged, but to be driven and used to get from point "A" to point "B" and they could have minor imperfections and that is "OK" The engine may have some spots that have no paint on them, chassis parts may have nicks in the paint, there may be orange peel in the paint finish, but this is they way that they went to the dealer and then on to the customer. But, if I was paying for a restoration, would I accept some of these imperfections and still pay top dollar? Heck NO!! That is what has happened to the restoration of cars in my opinion. OK, off my soapbox... Flipped the FOR frame over this morning and sprayed the bottom side and now will wait till it dries thoroughly and then put it aside and work on the rest of the chassis components. There is over one quart of black paint on the frame! Edited January 16, 2017 by dalef62 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Work continues on the FOR. I cleaned and painted the front springs and attaching hardware, and also started cleaning on the rear member assembly. Then the next step was to start assembly!!! The front springs were attached to the frame and now await the front axle and brake backing plates. I hope to get it into a roller and then move it out of the way and start on the body soon. Lots of pictures for those that enjoy looking... Edited January 23, 2017 by dalef62 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Looking great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylormade Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Man, I remember going after my frame and parts with every wire brush I had. I was picking bits of metal out of my clothes, shoes and skin for weeks. Nothing more satisfying than getting a nice coat of paint on everything before it starts rusting again. Looking really good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 I have been cleaning up the rear end and got the drums off today, they were tight but the drum puller did its job. Will now take the backing plates off and get everything cleaned painted and powder coated and ready to go back together. I have to order some parts soon as I will need to get the new wheel cylinders installed before I can put the drums on, both front and rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 A few more rear end shots for Valentines Day! I got the rear drums and backing plates off and did some more cleanup on the rear axle and rear springs. More things added to the table for finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Today's project was to get some primer on the rear end and the shock brackets. Done! I didn't prime the areas inboard of the spring mounts on purpose as that is where the hitch mounts and I didn't want to build it up with paint. I am also working on a customers truck so I got her truck spot primed also. Slow progress is better than no progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Simmons Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 dalef62-- How many times have I seen the look in the first photo in post 98. A crud-ed up brake assembly with a broken hammer handle in the general area ? To many to remember ! I agree with your assessment of over restoration and think the judges could/should be a bit more aware of the true way these vehicles rolled off the assembly lines of their day. I've owned a lot of classic cars and worked on them as well as many others for fun or profit and NONE were as perfect as Amelia Island or Pebble Beach would have you to believe that they were when new. . I think that people who restore cars,clocks or whatever should work to the the level their tools,time and abilities permit. I like to have fun with what I'm working on at the time. Such as the project that I'm now involved in with my younger son. Will it be over restored no but hopefully someone will be able to say "so that's what those cars looked like new". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Dale, in post #98 and #99.......are the brake shoes super narrow, or is it just an optical illusion from the angle of the picture? I like the idea of the pipe thru the rear axle yoke - will have to remember that next time I paint a rear axle. Keep the pics coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Paul they are about 1 1/4" -1 1/2" wide. Same shoes that are on the 1950-1952 Crosley cars. Thanks for all the good comments!!! Looks like everyone will be having Forum withdraw for a few days!!! Good time to get out and work on the cars!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Just hanging around waiting on some new clothes!!!!! That's the look of the day. Getting ready to spray some of the suspension parts soon. Once I get these parts painted and installed on the chassis I will only need the brake backing plates and drums to be finished and installed to get the chassis back on the ground and rolling. Hoping to get it rolling by the end of March! Then on to the body... Also moved the body back out into the work area as I finished a customers truck that was using the space. Was checking it over to see what the plan of attack will be on it. I did notice a big error in the right front fender that was done at the factory and no real way of fixing it, I guess it will stay that way. Edited March 3, 2017 by dalef62 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just thought I would show the front end to see if anyone can spot the problem with the right front fender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Well, to me, it looks like the rear of the right fender where it attaches to the firewall slopes from outside to the inside. Edited March 3, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 You got it Keiser, but it is actually the outside of the fender that is high by about 1/2". Quality control at it again! Remember the frame welds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursst Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 FOR looks great. Good to see the progress being made quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 The hanging parts now have a new set of clothes, nice shiny black paint to go with the rest of the chassis parts already painted. Will be so glad to get the chassis together enough to get it back on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Did some work on the rear brakes this afternoon, took the emergency brake cables off and also the wheel cylinders and wire brushed the backing plates and shoes a little to get the heavy crude off them. Ready for the sandblast cabinet now. Speaking of the sandblast cabinet, the left hand glove has had holes in it for awhile and I had bought a new glove along time ago so I thought it was a good time to change it out. It was a simple job and is now ready to blast away without sandblasting my fingers and getting sand all over my arm! I have several parts ready to hit the blaster in the next couple of days. Rear brake backing plates and shoes, rear drums, front drums, and U-bolts and nuts for rear springs. I also made a list of parts that are needed to get the chassis back together, several hundred dollars worth of goodies!!! Hope to order them this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Today I did some sand blasting of the rear backing plates and one rear drum. They took several times in the cabinet to get all the crude off them, they look pretty good now. Another day of sand blasting and I should have the other drum done and any other little things that need blasted for the chassis to get back on the ground. I also added some of the pictures from yesterday. Lots of detail pictures so I know how it goes back together again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Today project was making things shine. I fired up the powder coater and powder coated the rear brake backing plates and spring shackles black, and the aluminum wedges for the front axle clear. It is so nice to powder coat an object and have it ready to install in minutes after coating, no waiting for the paint to cure, just wait long enough for the part to cool and you can use it. I am getting so close to putting the axles on the chassis and having it rolling around in the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 I am making progress on the chassis today. I installed the front axle and then installed the backing plate to the hubs. Then I installed the rear springs less a few nuts and lock washers. Soon I will have to flip the chassis over and lower it close to the ground as it will be too heavy to flip and lower if I put too much more on it. I am trying to figure out how I will support it till I get the rest of the suspension and wheels on it? I don't want to scratch the paint! I am happy with how the chassis is coming out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unimogjohn Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Dale, everything looks great. Cannot wait until it is sitting on all fours and right side up. Thanks for keeping us updated. Edited March 12, 2017 by unimogjohn (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Looking really good Dale. The short wheelbase is very obvious in your last picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 A small milestone was reached yesterday afternoon, the chassis was flipped over and is now closer to the floor! Now to get the rear U-bolts ready to install the rear axle and the wheel cylinders and brakes installed. Then powder coat the drums and it will be rolling on the floor. I might make my goal of having it on the floor by the end of March! On the weather front, we were supposed to get 1-5" of snow over night but luckily we missed it and only got a dusting over night. It is snowing now but we missed the brunt of the big snow!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Todays project was to install the rear axle. I got new nuts and lock washers for the rear axle U-bolts and put the rear axle in place and it bolted right up! I also installed the rear shock upper mounts, but the hardware didn't have enough of the bolts, so I have to get more at a later date. Now the FOR is ready for a brake job and drums and wheels. I am waiting on the parts from the Crosley supplier, he is digging out from all that snow the eastern shore got on Monday. It is so nice to see both axles on the chassis and know that it is so close to sitting back on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Sweeeeet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursst Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Looking great. Hope you bring this thing out to some AACA shows so we can see it when it's finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Thanks for all the positive comments, makes posting this all worth it. I do hope everyone enjoys all the restoration post that are on the AACA page. Hursst, I would love to bring it to a AACA show if one gets close to me once it is done. And the Blast goes on... Well sand blasting that is, on the brake drums, three done, one to go. Hope to get them powder coated today. They will be cast iron finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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