Kosage Chavis

1955 Buick Century

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You could look at using scissor trusses for at least part of the roof structure.  The amount of additional clearance you'll gain will depend upon the roof pitch you choose.  The downside of scissor trusses is you won't be able to use the attic area for storage.  But, you can do scissor trusses over 14 feet and standard trusses for the other 14 feet.  That will require you to place the lift in the center of the garage, so you'll want to install a 16' overhead door, rather than two 8' doors so you can pull the car straight in.

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#1 - Yes, the ceiling/roof in this bay has scissor trusses, raising the height.

 

#2 - No matter which ride happens to be on the lift, it will have a heavy duty plastic drop cloth attached to the undercarriage to catch whatever/everything.

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On 4/14/2020 at 4:51 PM, Kosage Chavis said:

 

At some point, I would love to put in a lift.  I really don't know if I can pull off a 12 foot ceiling.  Money is limited.  Could I work a 2 post lift in with 10 feet ceilings?

 

Yeah Sean, way beyond my budget.

I understand money is limited, but it will never be cheaper to add capacity than when building your garage.  I built a 2.5 car garage at my last house, and adding the additional height only increased my total by about 15%.  If you are staying in that house, you'll be glad one day you held off for the extra height.

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Unfortunately, I found out that the city that I live in, you cannot build a detached garage (or any detached structure for that matter) taller than the existing house.  I live in a one story house with a standard slope on my roof.  I have 3 options...do a 12 feet ceiling height with no attic, do a 10 foot ceiling with storage space in attic or do 8 feet ceiling height with full 2nd floor.  I cannot have it all.  So, I will go with 10 feet ceiling height with storage space in attic.  I will just have to improvise with my restoration.  Either way, there will be no complaining over here.  I am thankful.

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Yo KC,

I know it’s not my house, but out of those three options, I would go for an 8’ ceiling and full upstairs for resale value. You don’t need a lift and a ten foot ceiling doesn’t gain you really anything. I restored my 55 in a two car garage with an  8’ ceiling. At that point, go out as far as you can. 😁

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Actually, 4-post lifts like mine typically come with wheel kits that let you move them around.  If you go with an 8-foot ceiling, then pour a concrete driveway/apron extending 20 feet in front of the garage.  That would at least allow you to perform under-car work outside (actually a benefit for dirty work) when weather permits.  Then roll it inside and park on it in the lowered position.

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1 hour ago, buick5563 said:

Yo KC,

I know it’s not my house, but out of those three options, I would go for an 8’ ceiling and full upstairs for resale value. You don’t need a lift and a ten foot ceiling doesn’t gain you really anything. I restored my 55 in a two car garage with an  8’ ceiling. At that point, go out as far as you can. 😁

But you made good use of the service pit at my shop!:P  (With children, Kosage should never consider a pit...besides the "city" would object.)

I have a friend with a 2-post lift with limited ceiling and cannot stand under the car --- he uses a wheeled office chair.

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My four post has the casters also. I don’t think without a side swinging door you will be able to get it outside since the lift with wheels under it is 7’6

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7 hours ago, old-tank said:

But you made good use of the service pit at my shop!:P  (With children, Kosage should never consider a pit...besides the "city" would object.)

I have a friend with a 2-post lift with limited ceiling and cannot stand under the car --- he uses a wheeled office chair.

Please do tell Mr Willie.  Roughly, what height is your friend's ceiling and what kind of a 2 post lift does he have?  I don't mind rolling underneath the car with a chair, as long as I don't have to lay on the floor to do work.  Thank you.

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2 hours ago, Kosage Chavis said:

Please do tell Mr Willie.  Roughly, what height is your friend's ceiling and what kind of a 2 post lift does he have?  I don't mind rolling underneath the car with a chair, as long as I don't have to lay on the floor to do work.  Thank you.

9.5 ft

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I don’t mean to continue this in your restoration thread, but think about how tall your car is and then deduct that from whatever your desired ceiling height is. Anything less than 12’ is no bueno for a four post. 
I worked at Willie’s friend’s place and it was a drag. Don’t do it.  

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13 hours ago, buick5563 said:

I don’t mean to continue this in your restoration thread, but think about how tall your car is and then deduct that from whatever your desired ceiling height is. Anything less than 12’ is no bueno for a four post. 
I worked at Willie’s friend’s place and it was a drag. Don’t do it.

That's because you did not get to use the chair.:P

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See, that's why I love you all.  After reading everyone's comments, I searched for a 2 post car lift for low ceiling and found one.  This one is only 8'- 10" in overall height.  So, maybe I could do a 9 foot ceiling and possibly squeeze in a 2nd story to this garage.  I understand I will never be able to walk upright underneath a car, but like @old-tanksaid, just use a rolling chair.  I'd be just fine with this!

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Howdy! Just reading through these fresh posts and thought I’d toss my 2¢ in this wishing well! Just a thought 💭. This might not really cost more and, may even save you a few bucks. What about having one side as a vaulted, 12’ no attic, for lift space allowance and the other side, 8’ with storage loft above that side? Might have to build a retaining, “load-bearing“ wall (With maybe a set of doublewide pocket doors) down the center stretch but, in the long run, at least you’d be able to keep one side all clean and snazzy for storing your show car with your fancy framed Buick memorabilia on the walls, while the other side can be your grease-monkey side for all of the fun tasks!? The loft storage area could be accessible from the vaulted roof side.

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Oh and one more thing to consider, if feasible, you will DEFINITELY prefer to have the garage door(s) open in either a split side-by-side barn style track or, swing OUTWARD, so as not to be in the way of your lifts clearance requirements. The types that spool up into a tight space closed cage are also nice but, as far as I know, generally cost an arm and a leg! Either way, glad to read that you’re back in the Buick game on getting some headway (literally, it would seem)! Inspiring me to get out there and do the same, ‘before‘ SoCal here gets hit with summer consistent TRIPLE DIGIT WEATHER!

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It's about to go down!  We scheduled to have 2 trees removed from the backyard this coming Tuesday.  Tomorrow, we go in to iron out the details on a contract to build a garage.  I have to maintain a strict budget to keep my Wife comfortable.  I am not getting some of the things I wanted, but I am not going to complain.  I am very thankful and I will make it work for me.  I will post progress in my other thread https://forums.aaca.org/topic/291868-chavis-garage/.

 

 

 

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Exciting time, for sure!  ;)  My recommendation: pay now for the things that either can't be changed or easily added later.  That includes any framing or foundation options that would require tear-down and reconstruction later.  Then add those 'nice-to-have' amenities later, when budget and time allows.

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Changing the subject back to the engine teardown...

I think your bearing and journal photos show an engine in very good condition.

 

Assuming you get the heads done by a professional shop, don't let them talk you into hardened valve seats.

The head material is a high nickel content alloy; hardened valve seats are not necessary.

 

Congratulations on the new garage!

 

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On 6/7/2020 at 12:45 PM, 95Cardinal said:

Changing the subject back to the engine teardown...

I think your bearing and journal photos show an engine in very good condition.

 

Assuming you get the heads done by a professional shop, don't let them talk you into hardened valve seats.

The head material is a high nickel content alloy; hardened valve seats are not necessary.

 

Congratulations on the new garage!

 

Thank you Sir!  

 

And no.  I will NOT let anyone talk me into putting seats on the heads.  The heads have already been done at least once by the previous owner.  Hopefully, none are on there now.

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Me and my two youngest went to Hampton to meet someone with the same car.  20200704_144355.thumb.jpg.db102bae794b024d5ffed49f712cd193.jpgCar looks and runs great.  I think I talked with the gentleman for about an hour.  At this point, it's all motivation to me.  By the way...it is for sale.  I will post in the buy/sale forum soon.

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10 hours ago, Specalist John said:

What's going on Stranger,,WHAT NOW YOU SELLING THE CAR 

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I don't think Kosage is selling his car but rather, the car he went to see, and is pictured in that particular post, may be offered up for sale. 

Meanwhile, Nice Century!

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17 hours ago, Specalist John said:

What's going on Stranger,,WHAT NOW YOU SELLING THE CAR

What's good John!  Been a minute.  The car shown in my last post is not mine.  It belongs to a gentleman living in Hampton.  @JohnD1956is correct.

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