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YOM plate confusion leads to arrest for driving classic car

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Personally I'd never rum YOM plates on any of my cars, but I love the fact that that a good pair jacks up the value on eBay. Bob

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I have an "E" plate (rental) with a "Hertz Rent a Racer" license plate frame for the Judge but a normal plate for the street. Two screws.

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4 hours ago, padgett said:

I have an "E" plate (rental) with a "Hertz Rent a Racer" license plate frame for the Judge but a normal plate for the street. Two screws.

 

I must be missing something here? I am not sure what this ^ has to do with the the original post about YOM plates and the law enforcement's lack of knowledge of it

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Well the "E" plate is a YOM for my Judge. Just if you want to be really correct. A Florida YOM should be for the proper county, weight group/vehicle class (but the state will register any clean YOM).

 

Point is that Florida has hundreds of YOM, Personalized, & special group plates. Local LE just looks for a current year sticker on the right side.

 

ps rippling in picture is plastic film cover.

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31 minutes ago, padgett said:

Well the "E" plate is a YOM for my Judge. Just if you want to be really correct. A Florida YOM should be for the proper county, weight group/vehicle class (but the state will register any clean YOM).

 

Point is that Florida has hundreds of YOM, Personalized, & special group plates. Local LE just looks for a current year sticker on the right side.

 

ps rippling in picture is plastic film cover.

7eplate.jpg

 

I am still not sure what, if anything at all this has to do with the original posters thread, but I now do have to ask what does local "LE", and "E" mean? I am well aware of the multitude of plates offered in Florida. I even have set of Horse Country plates on my tow vehicle that is titled in in Florida, I just think they look pretty nice, and sort fit the look of my truck. 

I would like to think Florida DMV dictates what is "really" correct, so if they don't require the county to be on YOM plate then why give them any ideas? I have 6 of my vehicles registered in the state of Florida, and never knew about the YOM plates, then again I never paid much attention to it. I did notice a few cars at the Naples meet with them on and just thought someone put them on for the show, I was not aware Florida allowed it.  I believe that the weight and class info is on the code on the plate sticker as well as your registration card. 

 

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" I am still not sure what, if anything at all this has to do with the original posters thread, but I now do have to ask what does local "LE", and "E" mean? I am well aware of the multitude of plates offered in Florida. I even have set of Horse Country plates on my tow vehicle that is titled in in Florida, I just think they look pretty nice, and sort fit the look of my truck.  "

 

From an earlier post-

 

"Also "back in the day" Florida plates were coded by county, weight class, and use ("E" was a rental, rental companies fought it saying it made rentals targets. Today they put bar codes on the driver's side rear window). My Judge would have had a 7W-xxxx green (69-70) plate.

 

More specifically: "IV. REQUIREMENTS FOR AUTHENTICATION OF A LICENSE PLATE:
Authenticated license plates may be issued to any vehicle manufactured in 1975 or earlier. The license plate must be the same year as the model year of the car or truck. The license plate will be approved for issuance by the department as an authenticated license plate if the license plate has not been refurbished in any way and is still legible for law enforcement purposes. Authenticated license plates may only be issued to cars, motorcycles, and pickups weighing 5,000 pounds or less."

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And this is a good example of why I stopped judging, no one seemed to want the level of detail I thought necessary for a "platinum" or points judged class. Would often also take several hours per car. My particular field was electrics, instruments and gauges, and options but also emulated Quigley a bit. For example in 1967 GM used 80 column punch cards to track orders. If you knew the option code, you knew which columns were punched. This meant that a "tach and gauges" could not be ordered with a safeguard speedometer even though both were legitimate options because both would need to punch the same column

 

Prior to 1975 Florida plates were coded by county (1-69, there being 68 counties in Florida at the time and the last for an registration from out of the state - we have a lot of snow bunnies), weight (D, <nothing>, W, and WW) or class (E- rental, C/V - commercial vehicle, DLR, etc.) but not both.

 

Counties were ranked by population so if you saw a "1" plate it was Dade county (Miami). You could also request a special plate if not issued so in my yout I had a '59 Jag XK-150s with 6-3442 (& have come full circle with  the GTP LQ1). Extra points if you understand that one.

 

LE is Law Enforcement. In Florida we have the FDLE - Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Texas had the "Department of Public Safety" but that always reminded me of the French Revolution.

 

Yes I do make obscure references sometimes but it is all on the Internet, you just need to know what question to ask. Do you need footnotes ?

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25 minutes ago, padgett said:

And this is a good example of why I stopped judging, no one seemed to want the level of detail I thought necessary for a "platinum" or points judged class. Would often also take several hours per car. My particular field was electrics, instruments and gauges, and options but also emulated Quigley a bit. For example in 1967 GM used 80 column punch cards to track orders. If you knew the option code, you knew which columns were punched. This meant that a "tach and gauges" could not be ordered with a safeguard speedometer even though both were legitimate options because both would need to punch the same column

 

Prior to 1975 Florida plates were coded by county (1-69, there being 68 counties in Florida at the time and the last for an registration from out of the state - we have a lot of snow bunnies), weight (D, <nothing>, W, and WW) or class (E- rental, C/V - commercial vehicle, DLR, etc.) but not both.

 

Counties were ranked by population so if you saw a "1" plate it was Dade county (Miami). You could also request a special plate if not issued so in my yout I had a '59 Jag XK-150s with 6-3442 (& have come full circle with  the GTP LQ1). Extra points if you understand that one.

 

LE is Law Enforcement. In Florida we have the FDLE - Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Texas had the "Department of Public Safety" but that always reminded me of the French Revolution.

 

Yes I do make obscure references sometimes but it is all on the Internet, you just need to know what question to ask. Do you need footnotes ?

 

Thank you for clarifying your observations and comments. Part of the problem I have with these internet conversations is that I presume everyone is trying to stay on the topic when they reply to a post, and even more confusing when a poster presumes everyone knows what the voices in their head told them as they are posting. I am not trying to argue with you, just trying to understand the point you are presenting

 

Thanks for offering Mr Padgett, but no I don't need footnotes, at least you admit it, and yes you do make obscure references, a little more then just sometimes. Being you brought it up the sentence you wrote before that admission is a perfect example "Texas had the "Department of Public Safety" but that always reminded me of the French Revolution."  You got me on that one, I have no idea what point you are trying to make with that one

 

It is a darn shame that nobody appreciated your vast knowledge of the different states DMV coding of license plates as the "good example" you gave as to why you quit judging. So if I understand this one would better off in one of these events that you were a judge at if they used regular everyday DMV issue plates, or even better yet had none on the car at all. "Several hours to judge a car" you must have had a lot of judges or not a lot of cars for that task! I stepped back from judging myself in the last few years. I was the National Judging Chair for a specific make club, and I just found I never got to see the cars, or many of my friends

Did you attend the Naples Meet?  

 

 

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On 3/30/2016 at 11:07 PM, John348 said:

Just because somebody does something for a living does not mean they do it well, 10-15% of everybody employed in any certain "profession" is not that good at it Doctors, Lawyers, Plumbers, Electricians, Cashier's, Chrome guys and yes even Cop's. While it is true that a police job can be hard, but most jobs can be hard at times. I have many friends who are retired NYC PD and said it was a pretty easy job. Yes there are risk's but they knew of those risk's when they took the job,We all heard "he (or she) is the best in their field" that means someone has to be the worst

 

Remember this when dealing with doctors, lawyers, cops, whatever...Half of all those practicing their professions graduated in the BOTTOM half of their class.

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Can also just mean someone who does not test well. OTOH those in the top half may just read faster and not understand well. Testing well can also send the wrong message for example someone who really understood the physics of a dragster (don't tell me the maximum coefficient of friction is 1 when a top fuel can pull 4 gees) might sound like they understand calculus.

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I think the bottom line here is that the police officers could have handled this situation a little better. When they realized they were in their 60's or 70's all three should have holstered their weapons. They could have explained the reason they were stopped and double checked the numbers and the entire situation would have been de-fused.  Three cops shouting three different commands helps nothing and only adds to the confusion. After all the dust clears and the lawsuits are settled it's the taxpayers that are going to foot the bill for their attorneys. Hopefully all the police will get is a suspension or fine and don't loose their jobs.

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I was smiling more than bleeding sympathy when I saw this vid the first time. He had to do something that provoked suspicion. Even my car parked in front of a rural town convenient store with a license plate stamped NY Worlds Fair '64 aroused suspicion. The bad guys are cunning at stuff like that.

OR the Nevada cops saw the Washington State plate and mistook them for people from Washington, DC. And , seeing that trail for the last 200 years, I'd investigate as well.

 

Is it true the people of Washington State are lobbying to change the state's name to avoid confusion with that other bunch?

 

Bottom line, if I was that guy I'd spend about 15 minutes, three times a week with a couple of 5 pound weights and stop quoting the bad guys.

you-talking-to-me.jpg Especially in a taxi yellow Chevy.

 

Lighten up.

Bernie

 

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6 hours ago, padgett said:

Can also just mean someone who does not test well. OTOH those in the top half may just read faster and not understand well. Testing well can also send the wrong message for example someone who really understood the physics of a dragster (don't tell me the maximum coefficient of friction is 1 when a top fuel can pull 4 gees) might sound like they understand calculus.

 

Well this might be true in some situations, but not in the case of any civil servant ( in this case it is three Police Officers) who do not perform their job well. These guys took a test, then a physical exam, and then a psychological exam. So it looks like they tested well, for them to make the list and move on to the next steps. My problem is that out of the three officers not one had common sence to stop the other two from their actions. Well.............and for the the rest of your comment again I have no idea what point you are trying to make or how it even relates to the topic, it must be me

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No, just enjoying the conversation. Most of the LEO (Law Enforcement Officers) I know are really good guys. Used to be one of the few civilian members of FACCI,  InfraGard, and spent a lot of time working north of Clarksburg.

 

I agree, something does not sound right about the incident.

 

ps John348 - I used to have a 78 Sunbird with the same drivetrain as your Mirage (not available with AC). Think I broke or cracked just about everything possible including breaking the clutch linkage out of the firewall.

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My best cop friend passed away a few years ago. We were a pretty good match. He wrote Santa a ticket for speeding once. It took about 20 minutes of everyone was  blowing the horn at Santa waving to them. I know the whole story.

 

He used to ride a horse with another sheriff in local fireman's parades. He was quite proud of the story about the little boy who exclaimed to his Dad about the part of the horse that surprised him. The other sheriff just said "yes he is." More in common.

 

Once we stopped into one of those little country bars for lunch when I was working the 3-11 shift. A few hours later I called in to work and said I was being detained by the police and couldn't make it.

 

In fact, I was out with him the day I was 29 years and 364 days old.  I said that was the last irresponsible act I'd commit before I turn 30. It was, I was over 30 for the rest.

 

I'm pretty comfortable with law enforcement. I know I earned every pull over and ticket I ever got.

 

I never had an incident with a woman on crutches but I remember a very angry man standing in the dust waving one in a parking lot as I drove off with his girlfriend. Just one more donut around him in the dust.

 

Entertaining thread for sure.

Bernie

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looks as if this origional event happened in the las vegas area. must have been a slooooowww day. 

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