Restorer32 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just read an article about the huge amount of research and testing being done on driverless vehicles. Hope I'm around in 25 years or so when the first driverless car shows up at Hershey. I assume they could even show up without accompanying passengers? Certainly might add new meaning to reliability tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capngrog Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 That'll be great when driverless/passengerless cars show up at car shows. We can just send the car to the show by itself and then watch the video from the comfort of our home. This way we can avoid all of those pesky people and crowds. Just sayin',Grog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 That's what I was thinking. The awards banquets might be a bit dull though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Brings new meaning to a "car show". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Now if we can just get robot judges... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 I once, half jokingly, suggested to the CCCA that they have a show in the middle of Winter where owners just send in pics of their cars along with copies of their receipts for restoration and resumes of their restorers. No need to actually bring the cars or travel in bad weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermontboy Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think the jury may still be out on how they are going to handle driving through 12 inches of snow in white out conditions. Or in city traffic on glare ice. Or..... there are so many more conditions not yet explored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Hi, Jeff.From the day the first cell phone was sold we had our first of many driverless cars.I was thinking on the same wave as capngrog. Picture walking down the show car entrance carrying a lawn chair then tell the officials that your car will be arriving later.Peter J. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 That's what I was thinking. The awards banquets might be a bit dull though.Or, possibly more exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I once, half jokingly, suggested to the CCCA that they have a show in the middle of Winter where owners just send in pics of their cars along with copies of their receipts for restoration and resumes of their restorers. No need to actually bring the cars or travel in bad weather.The W.P.C. (Chrysler collector's group) has what they call the "Winter Photo Meet" where folks just turn in photos and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Who gets the ticket for speeding ? Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Who gets the ticket for speeding ? WayneThe guy from VW that programmed it. I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 The guy from VW that programmed it. I couldn't resist. No, no! VW changed the computer program. Ticket went to the US Government! Hee, Hee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 "From the day the first cell phone was sold we had our first of many driverless cars." Oh lord that was good... These self-driving cars scare hell out of me, mostly because I see daily what "automatic" operation of equipment can do. Sometimes the results ain't pretty, esp when the human in the control room has been conditioned to let the thing drive itself and then has no clue what to do when the automatic controls, don't. Then it generally goes right in the ditch and out thru the field... Vajenya Tech is involved with some of the research on them and they're seen toodling around the Blacksburg/Christiansburg area often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I admit my (almost) total lack of knowledge about this. But, what happens when the first child runs out in front of one and is killed? There are probably some applications where this would be marginally appropriate. Trains for example. The public has come to accept that if you step out in front of a train, it is your fault. However, the same logic does not apply to a Prius or a UPS delivery truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Cole Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) California's proposal to require a licensed driver in autonomous cars is a big setback for Google.Every lawyer that can get 15 seconds on TV says they would sue the car owner.And MIT still has a long list of problems which have yet to be solved.One thing that I have heard recently as a positive is the freedom it would offer persons with disabilities that keep them from driving.The first one that shows up to an AACA meet with dirty sensors or an aftermarket computer would receive a deduction...And if the car shows up by itself, then it will have to come equipped with an AACA approved documentation screen to provide information to the team captain Edited December 18, 2015 by Phillip Cole (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 It's amazing how fast technology changes. I am a councilman in a very small PA town. All of our street and warning signs are now inventoried by GPS. They are located within a foot or so by satellite. Amazing. If one needs replaced we just send the guy the GPS coordinates. We could, but don't, also contract with a service that will study satellite pics of our borough each month and notify us of any unauthorized building activity.b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capngrog Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I find our reliance on GPS technology to be somewhat frightening when faced with the realization that it can all be gone with the push of a couple of buttons. Don't forget that the U.S. military can degrade or curtail GPS availability for the general public ... at least that was the case 15 or 20 years ago. When I first started working with GPS, the U.S. military caused a degraded signal to be sent, resulting in a significant position error (as I recall 30 meters or so). This error changed from time to time, but the required correction could easily be determined by comparing the GPS location with an accurately known geographical location. Of course, back in those days of Loran and early satellite navigation, a position error of 30 meters was considered to be pretty good. Just sayin',Grog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vila Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Driverless cars sound boring to me. I guess the driverless cars are so the drives, sorry passengers can all talk and text on their cell phone while the car drives itself. Next thing will be driverless race cars. The military can still degrade the GPS signals if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 In case of a national threat, my guess would be either scrambled GPS signals or a constantly chanaging pattern of signals. Imagine a computer based enigma machine. Just my thoughts. I don't have any inside information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I really don't think this technology has anything to do with passenger cars. YES that is where this technology is developing but I strongly feel that the ultimate goal long term goal is for long distance trucking. There really is no profit to be made for private/pleasure use, however reduce the skill needed to operate a tractor trailer, then the pay can reduced and profits increase. They are already working on technology on backing up..... it's coming Remember the film 2001 Space Odyssey? I never really understood it until now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarredKnightfan Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I can't say I'm even remotely interested in or excited about driverless cars ... I much prefer to do the driving myself..... Cort www.oldcarsstronghearts.compigValve, paceMaker, cowValve | 1979 Caprice Classic (awaiting new owner)"Maybe I'll drive so far they'll all lose track" __ Dolly Parton __ 'Hard Candy Christmas' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captndan Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I really don't see the point of driverless cars. What's a car without a driver? As for driverless trucks forget it. Put the trailers on train cars. The engineerless train technology is already here. My BIL is an engineer. He has two years to full retirement. He is worried about getting layed off first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I really don't see the point of driverless cars. What's a car without a driver? As for driverless trucks forget it. Put the trailers on train cars. The engineerless train technology is already here. My BIL is an engineer. He has two years to full retirement. He is worried about getting layed off first. Easy they will do it to lower the cost of the driver, thus increase the profits. Not local delivery but rather over the road long distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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