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Das Awkscht Fescht Car Show at Macungie, Pa. 2015

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I used to be a great show with LOTS of Brass Era cars and Pre WWII Motorcycles. Bob 

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Thanks for posting those great photos.. Looks like you had a beautiful day to enjoy those cars. :)

 

Wayne

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Sorry I missed the show this year.  It's one of my favorite most organized shows around.  Something for everyone, plus a great swap meet.  Hopefully I'll make it next year. 

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And the organizers of the Macungie show seem to have an uncanny ability to schedule the show on the absolute hottest weekend of the year though I hear this year was tolerable. Great show, has been for years.

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Very nice ... lots of sweet cars there ... appreciate the pics!

 

 

Cort :) www.oldcarsstronghearts.com

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I used to be a great show with LOTS of Brass Era cars and Pre WWII Motorcycles. Bob 

 

I noticed a sharp drop-off in cars of the mid-1920's and

earlier about 5 years ago.  They always had a lot of 'Teens

cars there, more than most shows.  This year I noticed a

1916 Chalmers and a 1923 (?) Haynes, characteristic of

what used to be more than a dozen from that era.

 

And I believe there were fewer Classics this year, as well.

 

But it is still an excellent show--with at least 1100 antique cars--

and it is one I plan on never missing.

It's organized by the Ontelaunee Region of the A.A.C.A.,

and many thanks to them and to their other volunteers!

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I was there selling parts for the 19th year. Back when it was a terrific flea market guys like me couldn't get a space. Now anybody can walk right in the day of show and take your choice. Sadly it looks like about 50% empty so they raise the rates. Just like most shows it's dying out and you're deluding yourself to think otherwise. As we old hands disappear there aren't any new ones stepping up, maybe a few instant collectable vendors, there was a vendor selling polishes near me who won't be back. It's still nice to be within a car show but, as said the quality cars are sitting it out, too.I thought they'd advertise more, even in these forums but this was the first mention and it didn't come till after.

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Dave;

We in the Ontelaunee Region are aware of many of the problems we are seeing with Das Awscht Fescht. Most of us are on the show field for the whole event. We know we have a lot of improvement to work on, including finding enough volunteers to help out!!! As you said, most of the problems are the samr as many shows are experiencing. As far as "advertise more" , I posted under Meets and Tours on this web site in January. I know that is far from enough, but it was posted. Just one of the many problems to deal with.

Dave

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This might be an ideal forum to recruit volunteers for next year ! Your problems are not unique in fact they are universal. The enemies. of the swap meets are EBay, travel costs and an aging population. Every year they take their toll and you see long running events cancelled, I wish the event every success in the future ! Wayne

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A vendor I know used to take up 3 spaces. This year he used just one and instead of his big truck he brought only a van. After Friday he didn't bother going back. He says no one wants to spend money, coupled with the show raising the rental fee means he doubts he will bother next year. I asked a very well known and large restoration supply dealer why he stopped coming to the flea market. He had a one sentence answer: "I don't make any money there."

I don't know if there is a fix for the problem but it seems like flea markets are going the way of the Dodo bird................Bob

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I love Hershey and flea markets in general but quite honestly I can be more productive finding parts in 1 hour on the internet than 3 days at Hershey wandering the flea market. Sad but them's the facts. Couple that with today's youth being accustomed to instant gratification and you have a combo that's hard to argue against. Yet local "cruise-ins" are thriving. We have one about 1 mile from our shop that draws sometimes 700 + cars on a Friday evening. I am encouraged by the fact that we are starting to get inquiries about restoration work from much younger hobbyists. In the last year we have rewooded a '28, done considerable mechanical work on a '35 and been approached about painting a Model A and did a complete engine and trans rebuild on a T, all belonging to folks in their 30's and all being restored rather than rodded.

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A vendor I know used to take up 3 spaces. This year he used just one and instead of his big truck he brought only a van. After Friday he didn't bother going back... coupled with the show raising the rental fee...

 

Based on the laws of economics:

If there are fewer vendors, and fewer

people buying from the vendors, then

the organizers should be lowering the

price of the flea market to attract people--

not raising the price.

 

I have seen organizations react to a decline by

actually raising their rates.  "We need to make

more money, as much as we used to," someone

probably has figured.  "Let's raise the prices."

Because higher prices dampen demand,

they don't realize that they are actually worsening the decline!

 

It's still an excellent show, however.  And if anyone

reading this has never attended, he should check it out

next August, 2016.

Edited by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history)

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We have the same problem at our Crosley National show. Why is the flea market shrinking? (or in our case SHRUNK). Years ago we filled the infield of our show grounds with 30-50 Crosley parts vendors or more, now a dozen tops. What has happened?? The aforementioned online bugaboo is the biggest factor. It is easy to sit in front of a computer and find everything you want with any uncomfortable interaction. It works on the part of sellers as well as buyers. A seller can set a price and never be forced to renegotiate on line. Plus that on line market is worldwide....not just a few people who happen to be there that day. Add to that the fact that it seems there are more "accumulators" of parts than ever, who hold on to supplies instead of liquidating them for people who need them NOW (you know....I might need these for my next project...trust me I do it too...so now I have 9 extra transmissions). I have pledged to my self (and my wife) that I will take a truckload of parts to next year's flea market no matter what!!! If I do that every year, I should get rid of a pretty good percentage of my "excess" spares before I die. BTW, our flea market costs 10 dollars for a 2 day vendor space that has hundreds of Crosley only people as its audience and it declines more every year!!! One of our major vendors of NOS and top flite rebuilt items that used to come from Florida every year, no longer comes. Its too far to go to sell to people who will come to him anyway!!! He can sell all he wants by e-mail and phone.

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Like many car shows, Macungie seems to have taken on a "cruise mentality" in the last 2 years.  For any one who has been there in the past, Friday was always "variety show" day, where street rods/customs are welcome along side antiques, and all are parked as they arrive.  This being the reason I no longer participate on Friday.

Until 2 years ago Saturday followed modified AACA  rules for vehicle placement.  Granted Class 27 was becoming a fiasco encompassing years '54 - '90, but it was nice to see "Classic Chevies" in one area, Mustangs in another, Early Ford V-8's, Model A's etc.  I overheard many car owners and spectators alike comment on the dislike of the current 4-era classification.  It's just too "cruise-like".  There were some early cars there, but you had to sort through all prewar to find them.

Sunday is "Club Day" where marque clubs sponsor gatherings of club honored vehicle.  You need not be a member to show your car, but you might just want to join.  Lately it seems in some cases, less club presence and just a representative to park like vehicles.  Aside from the few clubs recognizing prewar only, the showfield was dominated by '60's and '70's vehicles.  Chevies were dominated by Camaros and Monte Carlos, with only 3 Stovebolt era cars.  What a change from years ago.  The Chysler area was mostly '60's B-body, only 1 prewar DeSoto.  Again, cruise-like.  The Chrysler 300 Feature was excellent, and Packards had a commendable turnout.  But, 3 Hudsons, 4 Kaisers, and only 10 Studes!  What happened?

The registration form for Saturday and Sunday stipulates NO streetrods/customs as this is put on by an AACA region, but don't get me started on all the same aftermarket mag wheels and chrome valve covers present I see at the cruise nights. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing The Fescht.  It was ALWAYS my favorite meet of the summer.  But, sadly, I came away thinking next year's registration is not a given.

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I haven't met anybody who likes the new parking arrangement. Another wrench in the works this year was trailer parking. We always parked trailers at the Allen Organ parking lot. This year there was a big "Private Property NO Parking" sign at the entrance. Someone at the show said to park at another Allen lot. When we left the show there were notices on everyone's wind shield saying don't park there. Hope they get it together for next year................Bob

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Do any of the people that run the other events there conpare notes, and address problems they all seam to run into? Hot Rod show is in a few weeks, friend just got his reservation paperwork, last week he is #42. Looks like the Hot Rod meet is taking a hit with the turnout too. Bob 

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Bob;

Allen Organ stopped parking on the small lot 2 or 3 years ago. The larger lot had a big sign on it directing show cars to the left side of the lot. If you got there very early Saturday (like before 7 am) there WAS a no parking sign entering the lot but it was there from Friday. The sign directing cars to the left replaced it. Be asssured theere was a contract with Allem Organ for parking on that lot. Oh ,,,, by the way, even with no parking signs at the lower lot, and signs directing cars to the left on the upper lot, there were still people who parked wherever they pleased. This causes problems with the Allen Organ people and may cause the loss of the other lot also!!!

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Here's what I saw and my experience on Saturday, Dave. I arrived at the Allen lot on Rt 100 about 0800 and was greeted by a home made plywood "no parking sign" and nothing else. Another trailer showed up and he sent his wife to the show to ask for more info. She was told we were to turn on Race St and park at the Allen lot there. When we got there we were met by another plywood "no parking sign". Again, no other info or directions. Since we were verbally told to park there we did so along with about 4 other guys. After the show we found paper on the wind shields telling us not to park there again, but rather go to the Spruce St. lot.

A look at Google Earth shows there is another large lot behind Allen's buildings on Spruce St, off Race St. that, I'm guessing, was the agreed upon parking area but a show participant would have NO way of knowing that since the show's brochure only mention of trailer parking was that it was provided a short way from the show and there was NO signage indicating the way to trailer parking.

At neither lot with the plywood no parking signs was there any other signage giving instructions or directions. It was simply "NO PARKING". The verbal directions given to us at the show was simply go to Race St and park at Allen, which we did.

What we have here is a failure of the show to communicate............Bob

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I would agreee Bob.   I arrived Saturday am at the "Spruce street" lot which I knew in advance (called the contact number for the show) was the correct lot and was greeted by that same large plywood "NO PARKING" sign.   Because I had contacted the show for the correct lot, I knew that the sign was wrong and probably left over from Friday.  I parked there anyway.   I am not sure why there isn't better communication on trailer parking.   It is a question I will ask at our next meeting!!!  BTW...I had never parked in the rte 100 lot by the main showroom that you describe.   I've been going for only the last 10 years and first parked on the upper Race street lot and then 2 or 3 years ago was told we had to use the other lot.

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I would agreee Bob.   I arrived Saturday am at the "Spruce street" lot which I knew in advance (called the contact number for the show) was the correct lot and was greeted by that same large plywood "NO PARKING" sign.   Because I had contacted the show for the correct lot, I knew that the sign was wrong and probably left over from Friday.  I parked there anyway.   I am not sure why there isn't better communication on trailer parking.   It is a question I will ask at our next meeting!!!  BTW...I had never parked in the rte 100 lot by the main showroom that you describe.   I've been going for only the last 10 years and first parked on the upper Race street lot and then 2 or 3 years ago was told we had to use the other lot.

I've also been doing the show for at least 10 years and have always, along with at least 6 others, parked my trailer at the show room lot with no problem. Not knowing of the other lot I always thought there should be more trailers.

There REALLY does need to be better communication/signage vis-à-vis trailers if there is friction with Allen........Bob

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Well I know that there is a contract with Allen designating the lot, insurance coverage etc.  It is something not publicized.   Perhaps they should publicize it more and charge for trailer parking (just kidding buddy!!!lol)  I will, as I said, bring it up to the committee at the next meeting.

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(just kidding buddy!!!lol)

That sure made me sit up in my chair............Bob

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We parked at the Rt 100 lot on Saturday, as we have for the past several years. Another couple parking their trailer in the lot told us that when they saw the "no parking" sign, they went down to the show field and were told to return to that lot, that parking there was ok. No notes were left on our windshield. We normally bring a brass era car or Model T in a trailer as we live over an hour away in NJ, without easy trailer parking we would bring a more "modern" antique car to the show.

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I noticed a sharp drop-off in cars of the mid-1920's and

earlier about 5 years ago.  They always had a lot of 'Teens

cars there, more than most shows.  This year I noticed a

1916 Chalmers and a 1923 (?) Haynes, characteristic of

what used to be more than a dozen from that era.

 

And I believe there were fewer Classics this year, as well.

 

But it is still an excellent show--with at least 1100 antique cars--

and it is one I plan on never missing.

It's organized by the Ontelaunee Region of the A.A.C.A.,

and many thanks to them and to their other volunteers!

Now, you think there would be a LOT of pre-1920 cars there, and here's why:  PRE-1920 gets in for free!! :)

 

Cost for a 1920 and after car is $12 to $15, depending on when you register.  To be a patron at the gates, without a car is $8.  I hopped in my 1917 Maxwell, after registering for free, and I got in for 49 cents--the cost of a postage stamp!  Hey, it costs NOTHING to go, why not?  I drove 4 miles to the show, and had a blast!

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