Guest Sifua Posted January 12, 2002 Posted January 12, 2002 Can anyone tell me the type/size modern oil filter to buy to replace the original on my 36 Dodge d2 flathead 6? The book says purolator Large Heavy duty 861027 or 676575. What does that translate to? The NAPA dealers book only goes back to the early 40's.
critterpainter Posted January 13, 2002 Posted January 13, 2002 Fran:<BR> Is your oil filter the type that you disconnect one oil line from the top and one from the bottom and throw the whole thing away??? If so, it will cost you about $40 at NAPA Might be best to use a late 40's or early 50's style cannister with a replaceable element.<BR> Bill
fordee9r (Ron Springstead) Posted January 13, 2002 Posted January 13, 2002 Hey Fran,<P>I looked in my Chrysler Master Parts List ('36-'42) and came up with the following info. Besides the standard, non-cleanable oil filter, 4 filters with replaceable elements were offered. <P>2 are listed as "Oil Filter Kits" and described as "MoPar Large Heavy Duty" (#860821) and "MoPar Small Heavy Duty (#861029). These were apparently add-on units for cars not equipped with filters from the factory.<P>The other 2 are listed as "Oil Filter Assemblies" and described as "Purolator Large Heavy Duty" (#677536) and "DeLuxe Large Heavy Duty" (#677534). My guess is these 2 units were factory installed. <P>The filter elements for these filters are as follows: The MoPar Large Heavy Duty takes a #861027 element. The MoPar Small Heavy Duty takes a #861032 element. The Purolator Large Heavy Duty takes a #861027 element. The DeLuxe Large Heavy Duty takes a #676575 element. All part #'s are Chrysler and NOT Purolator.<P>Since the #'s are the same at least thru 1942, perhaps NAPA was trying to cross reference them as Purolator #'s instead of Chrysler (MoPar) part #'s. Hope this helps you find your correct element. <p>[ 01-12-2002: Message edited by: fordee9r ]
Guest Sifua Posted January 13, 2002 Posted January 13, 2002 Thanks fordee9r. It's these little things a beginner like me needs to know. I appreciate it.
fordee9r (Ron Springstead) Posted January 13, 2002 Posted January 13, 2002 Hey Fran,<P>I just thought of another possibility... take out the current element and let it drain for a while. Once the old dirty oil has drained off, you may find a manufacturer's name and part # that can be cross referenced by NAPA or another parts store. <P>Good luck!
ply33 Posted January 14, 2002 Posted January 14, 2002 According to the P15-D24 discussion forum the NAPA number for the replacable element is either 1010 or 1080.<P>If you have the type where you throw the whole thing away, the NAPA number is 1035 and the WIX number is 51035.<P>These are bypass type filters and do not need to be replaced on every oil change. They only need to be replaced when they become clogged. In 1933 the recommendation was to replace it every 10,000 miles. Considering that over 90% of the roads were dirt and the crankcase ventilation system sucked a lot of dirt in, you can probably go several times the mileage now. I figure I will only need a couple of these filters before I die of old age a long time from now.<P>(Modern full flow filters need to assure that oil goes through the filter otherwise the engine will run dry. They achieve this by putting a relief valve in the filter that opens if the filter back pressure gets too high. This means an old filter could open up and dump its accumulated crud into the engine. Since you never want this to happen, you should replace it every oil change. Since a bypass system does not have this restriction, you can run the filter until it is full.)
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