Guest alex661 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I have a 1923 dort model 20 C I'm looking for any knowledge or information about this vehicle can anyone help Edited February 11, 2015 by alex661 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex661 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I really need to find out how much this vehicle would be worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Photos and detailed description would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex661 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 just become a member trying to figure out how to put pictures on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex661 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The pictures at the top sorry took me so long I do have all the parts to the vehicle everything is there just disassembled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The Dort was a nice car, and this was its next-to-last year of manufacture. Not many change hands. I couldn't find any sold in the last 13 years by RM, for example. Gooding sold a nice-looking restored 1923 touring model at Scottsdale in 2011 for $15,400. Keeping in mind this is a "project" car, I would estimate value as-is (if complete) at around $4500-$6500. I'm sure you'll get other opinions, too.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I agree with that range, really think $5k might be top dollar for that particular car.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex661 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 very good thank you for your time and i certainly value your opinion thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Here is a 1922 Dort which is in the Gilmore Museum in Hickory Corners, MI. http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?52595-Orphan-of-the-Day-07-05-1922-Dort&highlight=dortIF you are in, or near MI, it is worth checking out.Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durant Mike Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The Dort manufactured by Dort Motor Car Company started by close friend of William "Billy" Durant founder of General Motors and Durant Motors Inc. was a great car and rare on the market today. The Durant Motors Automobile Club which services Dort and Dort-Gray has a number of members, but still small compared to the other makes. This being said, just like Durant automobiles although rare, they don't often bring high dollars due to no one knowing what they are and many being afraid to tackle a restoration on a car that parts might be very hard to find. Also the limited speed of any vehicle in the teens and 20's limits the market to those who appreciate early automobiles and just love the cars of that era. Most today want car that can travel highway speeds comfortably with all the conveniences and not assigned to the back roads less traveled. Although not an official appraiser, I'd put the value in the market of beween $3,500 and very top end of $5,000. But like anyone usually says in the classic car market it's really worth what anyone is willing to pay. My two cents worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry W Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Several years ago, at the Iola (WI) car show/ swap meet there was a vender who had a Dort engine for sale. Up until then, I had never heard of a Dort, and this guy was practically begging for any reasonable ( or maybe even unreasonable ) offer as he seemed desperate to get rid of it. A few years later, after I relocated to Michigan and rode along the Dort Highway, I began to pay closer attention to this marque and it's historical significance. And now, whenever I'm at the Iola swap meet I keep an eye open for that Dort engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 The engine is a Falls Model - 3 1/8 x 4 1/4. I see a little info is here - http://forums.aaca.org/f169/falls-engine-dort-apperson-velie-gardner-371091.html - but not much help. I know the Grant car used Falls engines in the late teens. Moon, Velie, Apperson and Premocar used the engine for a short time in the same era. Seems it was the same 195 cid size in all of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Although this is the era I collect in there are so many unknowns. Is there any rust, are all parts there, condition of interior, tires etcetera. I would say that if you get an offer in the. $4000 range consider it seriously. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 A661: Does your Falls engine have a tag?? It's usually a 3x4 inch or so metal rectangle riveted to the block giving makers name, engine model designation, serial # and maybe b/s...A couple of my old engine parts catalogs are inconsistent---one says Falls T-8000, another indicates it could be Falls DT (both are shown as 6 cyl 31/8 bore)...I have A "D" on my Falls list, and a "T", but no DT...unfortunately my catalogs are inconsistent on Falls, listing several engines as 4cyl in one place and 6cyl in another...Many thxx for any illumination...Oh---my sympathy on the Falls engine: there are very few comments about them in the engines etc forums I follow...They also built little one-lung farm engines, and one Falls ad referred to 4, 6, 8 and 12 cyl engines for pleasure and commercial cars. I always meant to try to run down info on the 12 cyl...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 OOPS---remembered another catalog---1925 Perfect Circle rings---which shows "Falls DT-8000" for 1923-24 Series 27 Dort...Also shows Falls "H" 6cyl 31/8 bore for 1921-22 Premocar, Falls DT-8000 6cyl 31/8 bore for 23 Premocar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Further comments re' Falls engines will be posted to "Falls Engines: Dort (etc)" thread started in this forum by Sambarn 4-22-14 to avoid duplication. Bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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