R W Burgess Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Carbking posted an issue he has had with his company's phone system. He posted the company's name which puts the AACA in a bad legal situation. I told Jon to join this post with an e-mail or contact that you may use to get more information on his issues.Thank you for understanding.Wayne Edited January 12, 2015 by R W Burgess (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Wayne - my apologies! I had no intention of causing a legal issue. Was simply trying to help others avoid the situation I now have.Suffice to say: if you are comptemplating changes to your telephone service, make certain you understand the ramifications of the changes.If you need more information, you may email me at carbqueen with the isp being sbcglobal dot net.The email is not in its final form, as the reason I use my wife's email was the number of spams I was getting via the web spiders, but may be assembled from the information in the preceding line.Again, Wayne, my apologies.Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 No problem Jon. I wanted all to have an opportunity to hear about your situation.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Shaking head in disbelief................Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I saw your first post Bob. And, no, we're not kidding when it comes to keeping our nose clean. We have over 60,000 members to support, and any law fees incurred just means that we will have less resources to use to promote our hobby, our prime mission.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I know you are not kidding, Wayne. And I understand the concept of slander. And I understand fear. It's just that I find the lengths gone to because of that fear sometimes bordering on the absurd..........Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasJohn55 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bob, I agree. One would think that the big phone companies have bigger fish to fry. I don't think we should flatter ourselves thinking we are that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Sometimes we smaller targets become easier prey.Wayne was right in his action and deserves support - not criticism, in my opinion.Our club resources are to promote the hobby, not to be used for need of legal representation which could have been avoided.While we are each entitled to our private thoughts, this is not the place for a "Soap Box"(... and I have, in my corporate past, worked with a couple of major corporations - and they were not beyond litigious - especially when going after a "little guy" Edited January 13, 2015 by Marty Roth typo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 So why is there a phone company problem being discussed on an antique car forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasJohn55 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Marty: I did not attack or criticize Wayne, it was merely an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62BillT Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Just to add a little extra, one of the other forums I visit used to be kind of paranoid about the legal stuff (Company and Vendor complaints, etc), then one day they just started to allow it. Not sure what made the difference.Not saying we should on here now, just saying that other places get away with it somehow ??Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I may have repeated this last year, but as an example, Mr. Moskowitz had to make a special trip to Florida last year to testify in a case that could have been serious for our organization. As it was, travel expenses, etc. were still incurred.Why would anyone "punch the snake with a stick", when it's not necessary (avoidable)?? Just makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Just to add a little extra, one of the other forums I visit used to be kind of paranoid about the legal stuff (Company and Vendor complaints, etc), then one day they just started to allow it. Not sure what made the difference.Not saying we should on here now, just saying that other places get away with it somehow ??BillBill,Does the "...other forum" you reference hold a "501c3 tax status with the IRS"??? The AACA is a 501c3 with the IRS and this status must be protected at all cost. When I was on the AACA Board and a Moderator for 9 years or so we strictly monitored any arguments between "buyers and vendors". In addition which may be the difference between your "...other Forum" is this website is owned by the AACA and provided at great expense by the dues paying members to anyone (non-members included) interested in old vehicles. Possibly something changed since I came off the AACA Board 5 years ago however I highly doubt it.Wayne goes way out of his way to help people within the AACA and he was only trying as usual to help Carbking with his query...so be it. Let's just move on and let this thread die off.(Not going to respond to any comments to my post)Regards,Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62BillT Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well, I hesitated to comment and my first thoughts were right, I should had just skipped it. My intentions though were not to ruffle any feathers, which it looks like I did. To answer your question about the IRS, I haven't even the faintest idea. But I do want to copy what I wrote on my last line: "Not saying we should on here now, just saying...."I'm out.Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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