handmedownreatta Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 good news.my brakes work good right now but they may go out tomorrow.i wish i could say the same about the trans..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Just a thought but $135 in 2015 is a very attractive price for a new accumulator that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rp1967 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Wonder if anyone has ever tried to use one of these in say a 1 quart capacity with high pressure tubing and fittings to make a remote accumulator setup?the up side is they are made to be rebuilt and the parts will probably be available for another 25 years.the down side , they don't appear original, it will take up more space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 There has been some indications that both of the available aftermarket ABS accumulators that have been mentioned on this Forum are made by Hydac. Spinningwheels-sc advertise their unit as made by Hydac but perhaps Marck can clarify this issue and, should his accumulator be different, let us have ghe specs of the one he is selling. Kingsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2seater Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 One additional comment on the new Hydac accumulator. Even though the brakes seemed to work properly before, the brakes now feel firmer than before, with no other changes. I realize it is subjective. My guess would be old accumulator, new last year, which only gave one to one and a half applications, was dropping pressure far enough to be able to feel in the pedal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 What is the contact information for Spinningwheels? phone .....website. In the last week I have had 3 people looking for accumulators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I got mine from Marck. He researched the accumulators and is carrying inventory. Many people might think his prices high but he will be the supplier of Reatta parts in the future. Look around, the guy in Michigan has passed, Kingsley is in his 80's and Jim late 60's. How long do you think they will be selling parts? Marck is in his 20's and is investing in us. This also is his full time job. I have said this way too many times. Parts are drying up and everyone wants NOS or like new condition. They are available but at a cost. Invest in yourself while prices are still reasonable today. They will be very expensive 5 years from now. For example on a different part of this forum there is a guy looking for a piece of door trim. He is offering $500.00 or a NOS grill for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I got mine from Marck. He researched the accumulators and is carrying inventory. Many people might think his prices high but he will be the supplier of Reatta parts in the future. Look around, the guy in Michigan has passed, Kingsley is in his 80's and Jim late 60's. How long do you think they will be selling parts? Marck is in his 20's and is investing in us. This also is his full time job. I have said this way too many times. Parts are drying up and everyone wants NOS or like new condition. They are available but at a cost. Invest in yourself while prices are still reasonable today. They will be very expensive 5 years from now. For example on a different part of this forum there is a guy looking for a piece of door trim. He is offering $500.00 or a NOS grill for it. Who is the manufacturer of the accumulator you received from Marck? Is it the same accumulator that is sold by Spinningwheels-sc? Why is their such a reluctance for the specs of the unit sold by Marck to be divulged? IF it is the same accumulator, I am sure that there are some folks who today would rather pay $155 to spinningwheels as opposed to Marck's $350. Kingsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) What is the contact information for Spinningwheels? phone .....website. In the last week I have had 3 people looking for accumulators. Barney - spinningwheels-sc.com. Telephone (352) 732-5013 - 1PM - 10PM EDT Note the extended phone service hours. If no answer, please leave a message and your call will be returned. Messages can be emailed from their website. Contact info taken from their website. Kingsley Edited July 2, 2015 by Kingsley (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCReatta Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Kingsley, The information you repeatedly have demanded is what is called "proprietary". I have spent a lot of time and a lot of money getting this done, and I don't see a reason to just put all my information out there just to satisfy your repeated demands. Are the accumulators different? I do not know. I don't know all the deepest specs of the accumulator, but what I do know is I PAY out of pocket more than $155 each for the accumulators that we are having made. How can they be the same if my WHOLESALE price is more than Spinning Wheels RETAIL price? The accumulators we have in inventory look very similar to the Spinning Wheels version. When i asked our supplier about this he said they have to use a stock case. But the internals are made to spec. Maybe I am getting the wool pulled over my eyes here, but I am just looking at the invoices. Thank you to Dave and all the 158 other customers who have bought accumulators recently. This is how we keep parts available for our cars. I find it strange Kingsley, that even though you do not own a Reatta, only supply 3 parts, and have, and, as you keep saying, "no financial interest" in the accumulators that you have fixated on me, my company and these accumulators. it's like you're purposely trying to find a way to drag me through the mud. Need anything more be said other than that "THEY WORK?" I recently had a customer in Ohio who said that our accumulators were "too much" and went and bought a Jaguar accumulator online (not sure the vendor) only to have it "pop". that $165 he spent wasn't such a good deal when it didn't work and he ended up having to buy one from us anyways. He ended up being out over $500 rather than the $350 he would have been if he had just wanted to fix it right to start with. If you don't like my price, don't buy it. That is fine with me. I'm not forcing you to buy a thing. I will have more here for the next customer that needs one and doesn't want to complain all day about the price. This topic has now reached 169 posts in 9 pages. I believe the term is "beating the dead horse" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The acumulator I recieved from Marck has a date stamped on it of 03/15 which is what I wanted. I would think it should last 10-20 years both in inventory and in service. I don't trust the age of the GM ones out there so I sold off all three of my "NOS" accumulator balls for that reason. I sold them for the last published price of $208.56 and made a profit on each one. I got one for $20.00 the other two for less then $150.00 for a combined profit of $280.00. That made the one I got from Marck less then $100.00. It was a good deal and I get one that Marck has spent time making sure meets our specs and has already tried on the road. I don't care who made it, all I care is that I am safe and have good equipment as I don't want to be the cause of negligence on the highway. Maybe it goes back to my 10 years of running a volunteer car repair service through our church and seeing what some of the single mothers were driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Thank you Kingsley. Basic economics suggest if there is one source, they can control the price. Competition is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Marck My involvement in this matter has been soley to bring information to all Reatta owners relating to the availability of aftermarket accumulators that are compartible with the TEVES Mark !! unit used in Reattas 1988-1990. Commencing with the first post, a lot of attention was drawn to the high prices of the only afermarket part offered by you. Within a day or two and with minimal research, a second alternative accumulator with Reatta compatibility was found - the one that had been sold by Spinningwheels-sc since 2010 and manufactured by Hydac in Germany. Significantly priced at around $135 (now $155) plus shipping. Over 1500 of them in play among GM, Ford, Chrysler and a number of foreign brands. You have mentioned that your part looks the Hydac unit and I have drawn the conclusion that they are the manufacturer of your unit. If I am wrong, I apologize. In any event you have mentioned that your unit functions well and you are to be congratulated for your bold initial efforts. There is a a third vendor now selling a Hydac accumlator compatible with the TEVES Mark II unit and priced mid-range between the Spinningwheels-sc part and yours. The name of the vendor is not germane at this moment. It would appear that my purpose in getting involved - hoping to get some info to benefit all Reata owners - has been farily successful. I am sure that the fellow you mentioned - the one who first purchased an accumulator on Ebay - might have liked to have all of this info. Kingsley Edited July 6, 2015 by Kingsley (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Spinningwheels-sc.com, the initial vendor of the Hydac accumulators mentioned here previously, are currently of out stock due primarily to the interest shown by Reatta owners. They do have inventory on order and expect delivery soon. They suggest that, if you have a need, you place your order and no payment is due until the parts are shipped. Their price remains $155 plus shipping. Contact info: Phone (352) 732-5013 Fax (352) 732-6537 Email Spinningwheels-sc@earthlink.net Kingsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I got mine from Marck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) I am attaching a sketch that shows a solution should we ever run out of accumulators.The main issue I see today..... the Teves accumulator has metric threads and the majority of the standard hydraulic accumulators used on equipment in the US has pipe threads.I have talked to hydraulic supply companies and there is a huge variety of accumulators available, the size, shape, and volume vary with the application. In the sketch below, the high pressure hose would attach to the fitting that the present accumulator screws into. That end would use a off the shelf, "banjo" fitting and bolt.The high pressure hose would be long enough to relocate the accumulator. The fitting on the other end of the high pressure hose would screw into the threads of the accumulator selected.This basic method is already in use in some Audi cars. In the event the Teves units and their replacement disappear or the price get totally out of line, this would be an alternative for owners that want to keep their Reatta on the road. Before someone ask.... yes an adaptor could be made that screws into the metric threaded hole and the other end would have pipe threads to accept a US accumulator....the problem is hood clearance, an adaptor under the accumulator would raise it to that point. Edited October 28, 2015 by Barney Eaton (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I got mine from Marck Dave - in a previous post believe you sold three NOS accumulators for several hundred dollars each and was able to buy Marck's for $350.00. There are not a lot of Reatta owners out there who can match what you did and that is why I mention the Spinningwheels HYDAC accumulator for $155. This entire thread was started over the high $350 price of accumjulators. Kingsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 That is not entirely true as I had to buy them from GM dealers. I bought 3 and made less then $50.00 each when I sold them. Truth be told I bought them to prove they were still "out there" and could be bought resonably. Before I bought them I knew I didn't want to keep them as while being NOS who knows how old they are and how long they will last. So I took the little money I made [about $120.00] on the sale of all three accumulators and used it to buy 3 Front ABS Sensor leads and traded them to Marck for an Accumulator. My list price on Sensor leads are $125.00 each [3 times $125.00 =$375.00] and Marck's price on an accumulator is $375.00. So I bought a brand new Accumulator for $120.00 which is less then Hydacs price. This allowed me to support a vendor on this site but still get a good deal. I like looking for bargains and bartering to get what I want/need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The acumulator I recieved from Marck has a date stamped on it of 03/15 which is what I wanted. I would think it should last 10-20 years both in inventory and in service. I don't trust the age of the GM ones out there so I sold off all three of my "NOS" accumulator balls for that reason. I sold them for the last published price of $208.56 and made a profit on each one. I got one for $20.00 the other two for less then $150.00 for a combined profit of $280.00. That made the one I got from Marck less then $100.00. It was a good deal and I get one that Marck has spent time making sure meets our specs and has already tried on the road. I don't care who made it, all I care is that I am safe and have good equipment as I don't want to be the cause of negligence on the highway. Maybe it goes back to my 10 years of running a volunteer car repair service through our church and seeing what some of the single mothers were driving.I always get a laugh when a person wins money at the casino and then continues gambling with that money saying they are playing with the casino's money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I always get a laugh when a person wins money at the casino and then continues gambling with that money saying they are playing with the casino's money. Sorry but I have been playing with "house" money ever since I figured out the parts I was buying from you were waiting for me at Gibson's. And selling parts to others has paid for most of the repairs I couldn't do. So I tip my hat to you for teaching me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Sorry but I have been playing with "house" money ever since I figured out the parts I was buying from you were waiting for me at Gibson's. And selling parts to others has paid for most of the repairs I couldn't do. So I tip my hat to you for teaching me... Glad to help. I just wish all the other folks were aware that parts are available from multiple sources and Pick N Pulls are a great source of low cost parts. Another good source is car-part.com Edited October 29, 2015 by Jim (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PontiacDude210 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I'm going to have to make a recommendation officially against use of a recharged accumulator. After a few months of testing off and on, I believe it is leaking down and becoming less effective. I have not used this unit on the road. Again, the best sources for accumulators are spinning wheels sc, Jim Finn,and Marck Barker. There are suppliers of Teves Mk2 accumulators selling for about $250 also who provide parts for the Ford and Lincoln models. I appreciate all your help in researching this topic. I would have to call this topic closed now. If anyone wants the recharged accumulator for research, dissection, or non road use, I will give it to you for cost of shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Glad to help. I just wish all the other folks were aware that parts are available from multiple sources and Pick N Pulls are a great source of low cost parts. Another good source is car-part.comYou and I have been big advocates of finding alternative sources for parts. That is why I tell people what I pay when I find them. I want them to know what they can expect to pay when they "go hunting". If more people would spend a little time finding what is out there, I would think there would be less complaining when a vendor charges a higher price for a "must have" part that replaces a discontinued part. Just my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Please see Dave89's comments in his post number 171 a bit earlier. Lest there be some questions implied about the HYDAC accumulator sold by Spinningwheels-sc. note that this accumulator has been sold since 2010 and used, most satisfactorily, by a wide variety of GM, Ford and Chrysler car users. It is sold from very current stock. Strictly speaking, I do not believe there are any accumulators being sold today that have specifications that match the OE parts. For example, the OE accumulator had an imprinted volume of 15 cubic inches whereas all units sold today, unless Marck's is an exception, have imprinted volumes of 20 cubic inches. Bearing this in mind, units sold today have physical dimensions that are slightly larger than the OE part requiring the use of several flat washers under the cross brace on the driver side. Speaking only for the Spinningwheels-sc HYDAC unit, In no way do these differences negatively impact their use in the ABS systems - they have been performing quite well for years. As PontiacDude210 says, unless there are some other questions, perhaps it is time to close this thread. Kingsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 What makes it worse is that when the computer shows the wrong part, no-one orders the right part so the mfr declares it obsolete. OTOH a hall sensor is not that hard a device. I have great hopes for 3D printers and small plastic parts (like the 88 Glovebox latch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobwhite Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 My brakes started giving trouble and the ABS symbol on my 1990 Reatta would occasionally come on. Not feeling up to it, I took the car to a brake specialist that I have used for over thirty years. They said it was throwing a code 48, and I would need a "control unit". Turns out the Teves specialist no longer works there. They said they couldn't find any parts at all after much searching. So after spending $180, I took it home. First thing I found was that the accumulator must have a broken bladder as the pump comes on as soon as you press the pedal. My mechanic made no mention of this. Since the car is a daily driver, I couldn't wait for some of the other suppliers to get their stocks replenished, so I bought one for a Jaguar from eBay for $330 including priority mail. It is supposed to be the exact same part that the Reatta uses. I'll report back when I install it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handmedownreatta Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Glad to help. I just wish all the other folks were aware that parts are available from multiple sources and Pick N Pulls are a great source of low cost parts. Another good source is car-part.commy local pull a part hasn't had a correct year riv or reatta in several months.unfortunately the other local yards don't list their cars online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I received a phone call this afternoon from the folks at Spinningwheels-sc this afternoon advising that their next stock shipment of the HYDAC accumulator is due in around December 16th. Their website indicates that you are able to put your name on their waiting list with no payment due until the part is shipped. Phone contact is (352) 732-5013 and email address is www..Spinningwheels-sc@earthlink.net. They did not indicate any price increase so price would remain at $155.00 plus shipping from Florida. Kingsley Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Kingsley are you getting a commission or any sort of a rebate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handmedownreatta Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) i like that marck is trying to keep parts available for the reatta.that being said my reatta is a daily driver and likely will never be valuable.i just need reasonable priced parts to keep it driveable. Edited November 21, 2015 by handmedownreatta (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingsley Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Kingsley are you getting a commission or any sort of a rebate? Dave - as I have mentioned all along I have no financial interest whatsoever in the Spinningwheels-sc products. I do feel, however, that Reatta owners should have access to readily available parts at reasonable prices.and that is what drives me here.. I am content to get my financial reward through the parts that I sell through Ebay and my website www.reattaspecialty parts. Top quality parts sold at very reasonable prices when compared to the competition. Kingsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobwhite Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The accumulator arrived in two days from east coast to west coast thanks to the Post Office. I gave the brake pedal about 30 pushes to make sure all pressure was gone. But it still sprayed a little brake fluid as I unscrewed the accumulator. I struggled trying to get the accumulator all the way out until I remembered that it is a lot easier or only possible if the cross brace is removed. It blocks removal, but only two 13mm nuts on each side and it comes off. The rest took just a few minutes. I started the car and after 60 to 90 seconds, the pump stopped. It took seven pushes of the brake pedal to start the pump. The brakes now work like they used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawteachr Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Check out the Chrysler TC topics, Hemi Dude has posted how to convert to a standard master cylinder in place of the Teves system. The Reatta and TC use the same accumulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiner 55 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 - 09:08 PMI received a phone call this afternoon from the folks at Spinningwheels-sc this afternoon advising that their next stock shipment of the HYDAC accumulator is due in around December 16th. Their website indicates that you are able to put your name on their waiting list with no payment due until the part is shipped. Phone contact is (352) 732-5013 and email address is www..Spinningwheels-sc@earthlink.net. They did not indicate any price increase so price would remain at $155.00 plus shipping from Florida. Kingsley Baker Kingsley, Thanks for the update. I just ordered one of these. Good to know there is now a firm date for shipment.My total cost with shipping to Valparaiso, IN. was $170 and change. John F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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