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Barney Eaton

1990 Select Sixty

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I just stumbled on this car for sale. Sorry if someone has already posted it but thought someone might be interested.

According to the database records, this car belonged to GM and was sold at auction in April 09 with 173 miles, it now has 234.

no price is listed and it is in Punta Gorta FL... looks like a museum or classic car sales.

Also note......this is a low mileage car from the GM collection and it DOES NOT have the Select Sixty hood emblem.

To me this is documentation that the 1990 model DID NOT come with the emblem.

Here is the link http://www.carsforsale.com/used-cars-for-sale/1990-buick-reatta-puntagorda-fl-243339945

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1G4EC33C3LB904434 - 4434 sounds familiar. Sold by GM at auction in 09 for $22k - know some of the GM collection were sold without a title and Florida can be difficult. Wonder if it has one. (According to Florida DMV it was sold in 09 but there is no title on file.) Has a plate in photos but is not Florida.

Vehicle Identification Number: 1G4EC33C3LB904434 Year/Make: 1990 BUICK

Previous Title State: Registration Expiration Date: 5/8/2009

Title: NO TITLE ON FILE Title Issue Date:

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Looks to be a Michigan plate.

Perhaps '91 convertible 900622 will show up. The last one built sold at the same auction.

I've seen a number of cars from the GM liquidation auctions pop up lately. One was a Buick Rainer Grand National complete with supercharged LS engine. All with no title of course.

I have a feeling a lot more Reattas than we realize we're in the auction and will start surfacing soon.

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This Select 60 is as low miles and about as direct from the factory as you will find, anywhere. I do hope everyone, including judges and future judges at BCA Nationals have noticed that the oil dip stick is black and not the grey dip stick that is suppose to be the only factory color for a Reatta dip stick...to me this documentation that both colors of dip sticks were used!!! Oh, wait, I almost forgot my 3,400 mile Select 60 never titled purchased directly last year from the award winning dealership the was awarded this fine vehicle came with a BLACK oil dip stick.

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Top often breaks off the dipstick if handled roughly.

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234 miles, long before a first required oil change. Ok, because of the age, time may have permitted a few oil changes....but, breakage by GM employee or a museum employee seems a little off, pure fantasy, wishful thinking or B.S.. How about they (GM, Buick Division) had a few manufacturers for dip sticks and some made grey ones and some made black ones....and both were used. Just like in all other models of the year.

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I maintain that my Reatta also came with a black handled dipstick. And given that my dad bought the car back in 1991, I know its entire history. However I now have one of each dipstick - so am prepared for any contingency. :)

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Walter, I too now have both a black and a grey oil dip stick, after hitting what seems like way too many wrecking yards looking for a "grey" dip stick. It seems that most dip sticks I saw in wrecking yards and at BCA National in Reatta's were black and not the festive, highly desired, pure

grey. Are they really that fragile? Humm.

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I have talked to a lot of people about the 3800 engine regarding the color of dip stick. It seems about half of the owners have grey and half have black. It seems to me that this issue is carried on in the whole Buick line. It may be just the time the engine was produced. The 3800 was not only a Reatta Motor but was in lots of different cars. My neighbor has a LeSabre with 25000 mile and my daughter has a junker at 240000 mile both are the same year and hers has the grey and my neighbors has the black. I don't think this would be solved but I would think if a Reatta was being judged, I would think either color would be correct. It would make common sense.

I also do agree with Barney that the Select 60 has the 90 hood stock ornament and not the Select 60. I talked to an owner of a Select 60 and he told me that his ornament had been replaced with a Select 60 one. The Select 60 ones were for the 88 only. I cant prove any of this but as time passes a lot becomes common sense. My Select 60 has a grey stick, a 90 ornament and 2 vin Numbers.......go figure, anything can happen

Chuck

PS still on the hunt for a Polo Green Convertible.......no luck yet

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Ad says the tire size is 15". That must be a mistake or did GM make this rim style in both a 15 & 16"? These rims are specific to the '91 Reatta, correct?

Very pretty car!!!

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The ad is incorrect. Reatta had 15" rims/tires in 1988-1990 (5 spoke rim). The 1990 Select Sixty had the 1991 style 16" rims, these have 7 kidney bean shaped slots.

The 15" rim was natural aluminum finish, the 16" rim had the outer edge machined to the aluminum finish but the centers were painted silver on most cars.

The exception was the 1990 Select Sixty wheels were painted white and white wheels could be ordered in 1991 on white cars only for an additional $100.

Below are (1) a 1991 style silver wheel (2) a white wheel (3) a 1988-1990 style wheel on a Reatta coupe that has a non-factory vinyl roof on a coupe

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Hi Barney, were the 91 rims specific to the Reatta or were the available on other cars as well? Someone I met at the junkyard said that the Reatta seats were also available in the Rivera but I've never seen a Riv with Reatta seats.

Thanks for the clarification.

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The 6 way Reatta seats were identical to those in the Riviera except for the upholstery pattern. Frames, mechanisms and so forth were identical. The 16 way seats were also available optionally in both cars, though again the upholstery pattern was different. The Riviera also got a true full function 16 way on the passenger side, while the Reatta had a look alike.

I don't believe the 16" Reatta wheels had any other application. The 15" rims were used on another Buick on a limited basis but I can't remember which model now.

KDirk

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The 1991 Reatta style wheel was used as an option on 92-93 Rivieras, but they did not have the fake black rivets. Then around 1998-99 you could get the Reatta style wheel in chrome as an option on LeSabre and Park Avenue cars. Below is a photo of the chrome wheel (without hub cap, which is also chrome)

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I have a 91 vert and a 93 riviera and they both have the same wheels complete with the black rivets. Only the hub caps have a different logo.

On the riv they were availiable if you got the grand touring suspention.

I forgot to add on my 90 coupe, 91 vert, and 93 Riv all have the gray dipsticks

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Here is another SS60 located in Houston...... I first thought it was the one from a couple years back that was first offered at a very low price then was said to be sold, only to be back on the same lot at a much higher price.

This car is on the database and had 37K in 2002 .... now has 39015 here is link

http://www.carsforsale.com/used-cars-for-sale/1990-buick-reatta-houston-tx-237942423

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Guest my3buicks

The one in the link has definitely been on the market at least off and on for a good while, I considered it when I got the black car, then again when I got the white car. I appears rough for such a low mileage car.

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That select sixty is the same one that came on the market, disappeared and came back with a much high price due to too many tire kickers from this forum calling the seller and telling him he was asking too little for the car.

Now this car has been on the market for nearly 3 years, and isn't going anywhere.

We went and looked at this car over the summer and yet again made a cash offer which was refused.

The car was sitting in a building with a greasy, torn car cover on it. Various parts from other projects laying all over it, Mildew on the interior, hasn't run in over 2 years, and flat tires. It is nothing like it's represented to be in the pictures in it's current state.

We made a very attractive offer to the seller given it's current state. However the seller seems to trust the word of people that call him and say how much it's worth or how much similar ones go for rather than someone standing in front of him with a pile of $100 bills on the hood of the car and an empty trailer to get it out of his way.

This is the power the internet can give an uninformed individual.

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Marck you are 100% correct, this is the same car you can tell by the missing parts on the door panel. He would have been smarter to take your offer, some folks never learn

Chuck

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The 1991 Reatta style wheel was used as an option on 92-93 Rivieras, but they did not have the fake black rivets. Then around 1998-99 you could get the Reatta style wheel in chrome as an option on LeSabre and Park Avenue cars. Below is a photo of the chrome wheel (without hub cap, which is also chrome)

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The chrome wheel pictured was available on the 94 and up Rivs. Here is a picture of a 93 with the 91 Reatta wheel, you rarely see this wheel on them. The ones I have seen have the rivets. I believe the later Park Ave / LeSabre you speak of had more spokes but were similar.

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AFAIR the same 15x6 wheel was used on the Lesabre T-Type in the same period and was too small there also. Even the earlier Fiero GT (about 1,000 lbs lighter) had a 15x7. (No Virginia, it had a different bolt pattern).

BTW ignorance is curable but stupidity is forever.

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The chrome wheel pictured was available on the 94 and up Rivs. Here is a picture of a 93 with the 91 Reatta wheel, you rarely see this wheel on them. The ones I have seen have the rivets. I believe the later Park Ave / LeSabre you speak of had more spokes but were similar.

Not trying to be nit-picky but as far as I remember there was no Riv in 94. As mentioned before the 91 Reatta wheel was only availiable on the Riv's with the optional Grand Touring suspension. The same suspension that is on the Reatta.

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Guest my3buicks

Correct , 95, they came out in May 94

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