D Binger Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 A Chevrolet with a Ford carburetor? YES!!!<P>Is there any information out there on the Stromberg carb that was used on the 216 Chev engines? This was an after market item. My 50 Chev had one on it when I got it. The parts stores gave me nothing but grief about it when I went to get a rebuild kit, so I now have a Rochester on it.<P>Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasBorchers Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 Yes, there were some 1950 Chevrolet 216.5 cui engines with Stromberg carburetors! The most had the Rochester. Following Stromberg carburetors were used: BXVD-2 and BXXD-35.<BR>Hope that helps you.<P>------------------<BR>Thomas Borchers<BR>Member of AACA # 004829<BR>HCCA and MAFCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hoover Posted March 30, 2000 Share Posted March 30, 2000 A Chevy with a Stromberg?? What! I need to check this out! Never heard of this. Thomas, are you sure you read that right? Is this the same car Dan, that gets 50 or something MPG on the other thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Binger Posted March 30, 2000 Author Share Posted March 30, 2000 Rich & Thomas,<P>That is why I want to go back to the Stromberg. I haven't gotten that good of gas millage since I went to the Rochester. Besides, I don't want "FR" to put all of his money on gas when he drives it - - I might be able to get him to buy me a drink.<P>Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasBorchers Posted March 30, 2000 Share Posted March 30, 2000 Rick: Yes, I' am sure! I own these wonderful "Standard Catalogs of American cars" part 1 and 2. I don't know whether all is true what are in these books.<BR>I read under the 1950 Chevrolet historical footnotes this: "New Rochester carburetor was B or BC type. Some cars also had Stromberg BXVD-2 or BXXD-35 carburetors." <P>------------------<BR>Thomas Borchers<BR>Member of AACA # 004829<BR>HCCA and MAFCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2000 Share Posted March 30, 2000 I think I'm puzzled. Rebuilding a carb thats getting good gas milage? Or is it that it was getting good mailage and isn't now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Binger Posted March 30, 2000 Author Share Posted March 30, 2000 It was getting good gas millage then it went south. I was getting 24-26 MPG with the Stromberg and now with a Rochester I am getting about 15-17. With the price of gas the way it is - -<BR>I wounder why there is such a diffrence<BR> between the two? Were they factory installed?<BR>All the linkage fits perfect so there isn't any modification or bending of rods, even the gas inlet lines up.<P>Thomas - you made it so simple - I have the same books, but didn't think to look for that kind of information. I thought this might be a tough question to answer. Thanks<P>I bet the guys at the parts stores will still give me grief.<P>Dan<p>[This message has been edited by D Binger (edited 03-30-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hoover Posted March 30, 2000 Share Posted March 30, 2000 This one's driving me nuts! Thomas, what's the english version of that book say! I can't find anything about Stromberg and Chevrolet. That carb of Dans has to be a Stromberg BXO single barrel, but I can't believe it ever came on the car originally. <P>Dan, can you put a picture of it on here?<P>Rick<BR> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbarn Posted March 30, 2000 Share Posted March 30, 2000 Yah, das Stromberger ist correctish - even mit das English booker. (Boy howdy, if Thomas thinks he messes up the English, look what I do mit der Deutscher.) I like the one question - why mess with good mileage, Dan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Binger Posted March 30, 2000 Author Share Posted March 30, 2000 I don't know how to put a picture on this ,yet.<BR>The millage is why I want to put it back on the car. I talked to an old mechanic today and he said that I needed a Master Float Valve. He then went over to a shelf and got a whole box of them down. The cost was in the ballpark - - $3.50. Now he wants me to bring the carb in so he can look at it. I shall return. This is the man who rebuilt the conbination starter/generator/distributor for my 22 Buick. I did find out that the numbers that Thomas found are for a carb that went on a Dodge 41-53 or DeSoto 47-48. I am realy confused now. Nothing new.<P>Dan in the state of confusion <P>(thought I had better correct this before Rick saw it)<p>[This message has been edited by D Binger (edited 03-30-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hoover Posted March 31, 2000 Share Posted March 31, 2000 I already had my book out when you bleeped back on here. We all have to help each other, remember we're all in this together!<p>[This message has been edited by Rick Hoover (edited 03-30-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2000 Share Posted March 31, 2000 WOW, this is a great topic. Anyway if you can't fix the carb you can always put in a Powerglide 3:55 rearend and if you control your speeds you will still get better than 20 mpg.<P>In early 1950 nobody was happy with the new improved Rochester carbs. They had poor performance and were being replaced with the Carter W-1 carbs user on the 1949's. I never heard of the Strombergs but Carter's contract had been terminated so it makes sense that Chevrolet would try other manufactures.<P>Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hoover Posted March 31, 2000 Share Posted March 31, 2000 Chevyrif, where have you been? This is one right down your isle!<P>Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Binger Posted March 31, 2000 Author Share Posted March 31, 2000 Looking at the Stromberg carb a little closer I found a casting BXOV-2 and the numbers stamped 12-224. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I can e-mail pictures if you want.<P>Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasBorchers Posted March 31, 2000 Share Posted March 31, 2000 I just wrote what I?ve read in my book. With the same words. Now I found one thing more in my book after 30 min. The Stromberg BXOV-2 Model 380286 was used (with others) in the 1952 Chevrolet (Inline Six 216.5 cui). Maybe an earlier Model (12-224) was used in the 51? The Powerglide Six had the Rochester, only.<BR>The Dodge 1947 to 1952 used BXV, BXV-3, BXVD, BXVD-3 and some more. I didn't find the BXVD-2 in my book. <P>------------------<BR>Thomas Borchers<BR>Member of AACA # 004829<BR>HCCA and MAFCA<p>[This message has been edited by ThomasBorchers (edited 03-31-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Binger Posted April 1, 2000 Author Share Posted April 1, 2000 So many letters and numbers. Don't confuse me. I was geting things figured out and you guys satarted with all this letter stuff. Good thing I wrote down the letters and numbers off my Stromberg.<P>Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasBorchers Posted April 1, 2000 Share Posted April 1, 2000 Dan, do you have a shop manual for your Chevrolet? What says that about carburetors for your 216.5 engine?<P>------------------<BR>Thomas Borchers<BR>Member of AACA # 004829<BR>HCCA and MAFCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac Posted April 2, 2000 Share Posted April 2, 2000 I have a Chevrolet Truck Shop Manual 1948-<BR>1951. It states that there were three types of balanced carburetors used on trucks.<BR> 1. The Carter downdraft is used on all conventional models '48-'49. <BR> 2. The GM model "B" downdraft carb is used on all conventional models '50-51. <BR> 3. The Carter updraft is used on all Forward Control and COE models.<BR>That does not help but, that's what the book says.<BR>later-jac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2000 Share Posted April 2, 2000 Dan, <P>just went through my Chevy Shop Manuals from 1949 to 1954 and only the Carter and Rochester carbs were mentioned. Your Stromberg carb is as elusive as my Black Truck Engine to document. Also went through my Truck Shop manuals and I agree with jac. The GM model B appears to be the Rochester Carb.<P>Talked to an old time Chevy mechanic today and he told me Stromberg made a replacement carb for the Chevy engines in 1950 because of the poor performance of the Rochester carbs. <P>Best I can do for now,<BR>Bob<p>[This message has been edited by chevyrif (edited 04-01-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Binger Posted April 2, 2000 Author Share Posted April 2, 2000 The shop manual I have for 49-53 passenger cars only talks about Rochester & Carter carbs. I did talk to a friend (who will be getting on this fourm soon) and he told me that he had a Stromberg put on his 49 Chev in about 1950 and that it cane from a parts store - - The Stromberg must have been an after market item. Now we have to find some specs on the thing.<BR>I still want to put it back on my 50.<BR>Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasBorchers Posted April 2, 2000 Share Posted April 2, 2000 It's a good idea that it is an after market item because I found the Stromberg under Historical Footnotes and not under engine or options.<P>------------------<BR>Thomas Borchers<BR>Member of AACA # 004829<BR>HCCA and MAFCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2000 Share Posted April 2, 2000 I had a 51' Chev 5 window that was all original including the 216. You might also be intereted in knowing that in most cases their was a base plate under the carb that was an adaptor for the Upper Cylinder lubricating system. The reservoir was located on the fire wall and looked similar to a Mason Jar and the oil line then went to the the afore mentioned adaptor plate. The purpose of the system was to help lubricate the valve train. The Oil of choice was Marvel Mystery. This was one of the reasons why you always saw a little puff of smoke when shifting gears. The system I had was not an after market period correct product. It was stamped as GM.<BR>Oil. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D Binger:<BR><B>A Chevrolet with a Ford carburetor? YES!!!<P>Is there any information out there on the Stromberg carb that was used on the 216 Chev engines? This was an after market item. My 50 Chev had one on it when I got it. The parts stores gave me nothing but grief about it when I went to get a rebuild kit, so I now have a Rochester on it.<P>Dan </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Binger Posted April 4, 2000 Author Share Posted April 4, 2000 Found a guy that thinks he can get me the rebuild parts for my Srtomberg. (To long of a story for the forum) Will keep you posted.<BR>He said that this is an after market item.<P>Dan<P><p>[This message has been edited by D Binger (edited 04-04-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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