Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 While lots of great projects are documented in this forum,This thread would be dedicated to speedsters seen at events, etc. that are worth posting here - much like the "custom bodied Packard thread" or "Prewar Mercedes thread" elsewhere in this forum - they have been successful, maybe this one will be also.Here is a Corbin that I understand was rebodied at some point in the 1950s. This car was at the Klingberg Vintage festival here in CT in June - a fantastic show for early stuff. Both it's long term and more recent owner were present, and they claimed to have had the car up to around 60 MPH at some point. The car, I believe is out of Vermont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Steve, are you looking for teens or later? One of my favorite "speedsters" although I guess it is more of a "special". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Hey A.J. thanks for posting - I am looking for anything that is very interesting, has historical value and/or great proportions, etc. - stealing the idea of yours and Dave's threads eleswhere. I am amazed at how prevalent speedsters were both in period, and even at certain times later. I have been taking pics/making notes on a few, whether factory bodied, built in period or built later on - no matter.Yes, I really like the above example as well, quite a story behind it - and look forward to seeing it in person at some point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Keep them coming... whether it's period correct or not, new ideas are always a good thing for guys that are building or restoring. I love the big cruisers too. There has to be lots of big old frames out there that have been overlooked by others doing more traditional restorations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Keep them coming... whether it's period correct or not, new ideas are always a good thing for guys that are building or restoring.I'll agree, I very much would like to build one, and its' good to see what's been built before. Besides, they're so nice to just to look at!Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I'm thinking of the Edsel Ford speedster too, which is another 30s car. Unfortunately I have no expertise prior to about 1927. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Pope Hartford - I do not know much about the history of this one and would love to know if this is a factory bodied car or not. I have seen other Pope Speedsters but I do not believe they have the bodywork this one has where the cowl sweeps back. I like the all black as well, wish the owner was around to chat with.A.J. - yep I have pics of that car and a good story on it's discovery in one of my books, need to post up some pics of that one as well. BTW - you would look rather sporting in a nice Bearcat... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsnz123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) This here is something.1930 Packard Bentley "Mavis"Based on a 1930 8-liter Bentley chassis the car uses a V12 42 liter Packard 4M 2500 engine out of a PT Boat. The engine belches out 1100 Kw and 2700 Nm of torque plus a lot of fire. This car is massive with a curb wight of 2.4 tons and did I mention the Dustbin-sized supercharger that turns 2.4 times the speed of the engine and that the inlet manifold is 165 mm in diameter!!!!! I really want to see this in real life and take it for a spin. Edited August 13, 2014 by Carsnz123 pics (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Unique placement of the gasoline hand pump on the Pope Hartford. It allows either driver or passenger to pump. I like the sweeping cowl also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Here is the Edsel Ford speedster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) A couple of pics of the Edsel Ford Speedster, courtesy of the Internet. This car's story is featured in a lot of Ford related books, and also in one of Cottter's excellent "The XXX in the Barn" books. I believe it was rediscovered not too long ago in FL, and assume the up to date photo below is post discovery. Note - I see by A.J.s post both the red car below and his pic appear to be current, so one must be a reproduction, in seeing who is driving the black car, assume the red one is a recreation, regardless, a very cool car indeed. Edsel Ford was known to have a great eye and I wonder how much he was involved in the design of this one, which I think is what makes this an important speedster/special..Also, while I do not know a lot about this '29 Stutz, it is believed to be a repro racer that I snapped at Lime Rock a couple years ago. It was cool to see it run.BTW the Schumacher Special in post #2 is Stutz powered, and currently undergoing a full restoration. Dwight - the T Speedster will have a hand pump as well as where we live is hilly enough that I think I will need it...Love the mix of earlier speedsters and later speedster/specials; if it is prewar, and interesting, let's post 'em. Edited August 13, 2014 by Steve_Mack_CT Updated info on Edsel's car (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Steve,My hand pump will just be for "looks," but I think I will try to mount it in that location.BTW: Great idea for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Did you guys see this T speedster?http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22174/lot/322/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Check out the period correct plastic bag on the brake cable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 A.J. does not miss much....Seems like a great buy at that price - an interesting body, I like where he added a cowl vent, among other details.Just goes to show you can do OK even at name auctions. There were two decent, definately automotive spotlights at Bonham's Greenwich this year, I assumed were going to meet or blow by the estimate - and we have a lot of other things to buy for the speedster first so I passed on bidding. Mistake - they both went for less than $200 each and I would have been happy with either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoringicons Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Here's a good one from prewarcar.comhttp://www.prewarcar.com/magazine/previous-features/hats-off-goggles-on-friday-lady-024067.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 In the January 1914 issue of Country Life in America, Joan Newton Cuneo reflected about her racing history, the AAA ban and the future of automobiles:"During the three-day Mardi-Gras meet on the dirt track in New Orleans in 1909, competing with the greatest men drivers, I was fortunate to break some records, winning the gold trophy for the American amateur championship, two silver cups, a Rockwood vase, and a gold Klaxon horn. The surprise was a shock for too much of the men, and the American Automobile Association ruled that no more women would be allowed to compete in their sanctioned events.""..on the Motor Parkway in 1911 drove a half mile in 16 1/10 seconds, which is a rate of 111.5 miles an hour. . . Living over the trials and tribulations as well of the joys and triumphs of the eighteen automobiles that I owned, I cannot help wondering what the next ten years may bring forth - for surely it seems that the car of to-day has reached nearly the top notch of comfort in every respect, and we wonder how some of them can be improved upon."Wouldn't she be surprised if she took a couple of laps today with Danica Patrick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I think it was when Lynn St. James started racing at Indy that one idiot reporter asked her how a woman could drive so fast. Lynn replied "The car doesn't know I'm a woman." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Did you guys see this T speedster?Sold for $6k...not bad for what they got. I like where the paint scheme is going. I can see continuing that curved line to the rad cap on both sides, and doing the front half in a silver or blue (to match the seats) with gloss black on the back in single stage (not too glossy) paint. I can also see the front half looking good in a red, orange or antique green. Always the dreamer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 This Mercer really defines the speedster genre to me, along with the contemporary Stutz Bearcat. I took a few pics of this at the Dragone tent a couple weeks ago @ Hershey, and now see where it sold for $1.6 M - interesting history, as I am sure is the case with all Mercers of this vintage..http://www.dragoneclassic.com/Auctions/fall-auction-2014/1912-mercer-type-35c-raceabout-ex-david-v-uihlein/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Did you guys see this T speedster?http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22174/lot/322/Love the 1933 DeSoto windshield on that T! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) photo: Bonhams Auction This might get you into the "Speedster Club", gentlemen, and it's for sale at Amelia Island March 12th! More data at Peerless For Sale Department thread, AACA Peerless Forum. Edited January 7, 2015 by jeff_a (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 She's pretty sweet, but I'm a little late at starting to save my pennies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'll second that!Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I don't have enough pennies, either. Not even enough to drive down to Florida and watch the event from the back row.I thought that the photography was really first-rate here. They oughta sell that as a poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hmmm..... now that you mention it, that just might become my next screen saver if I can figure out how to flip the negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kelly k Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Here is one for you. 1914 Studebaker body made at the Troy carriage co Troy NY in 1914. In the family untill I bought it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kelly k Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 1914 Studebaker rebodied in 1914 at the Troy NY carriage co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Very neat looking car.Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 It is...buff that out and cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hudson33 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Now if you are daring here is a car that begs for recreation.Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 914Driver Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 1914 Studebaker rebodied in 1914 at the Troy NY carriage co.Troy had a lot of stuff going on until recently, but they had a Stude factory? Or was this a 1914 "Tuner Shop"? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kelly k Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I am sure you are smart enough to figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 914Driver Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) If I could I would, thanks for the help. Edited March 4, 2015 by 914Driver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Troy had a lot of stuff going on until recently, but they had a Stude factory? Or was this a 1914 "Tuner Shop"? Dan,I quess you could call it a 1914 Tuner shop. It looks like they rebodied cars into more appealing, sporty cars, just like modern shops! They didn't actually build Studebakers. Edited March 5, 2015 by Dwight Romberger (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 914Driver Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Ah, thank you. There were quite a few manufacturers in New York state in the 20s & 30s, some just a flash in the pan.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I am sure a lot of blacksmiths and carriage houses built a few speedsters back in the day. Thanks for sharing, Kelly - a cool find for sure. Any ideas where it spent the past oh, 90 years or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kelly k Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 It spent all its life in the Olsen family until I bought it. The first owner bought it new. His father worked at the Troy carriage co. and was the builder of the Dormandy cars a decade earlier . It never left Troy NY for 100 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 Fantastic find! (skipped right over your post #27 I guess) - Incredible this car remained with one family for that length of time and does not even seem like anyone attempted to refurbish or restore it. Being in the Northeast I hope to see it sometime - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) [ATTACH=CONFIG]289820[/ATTACH] photo: Bonhams Auction This might get you into the "Speedster Club", gentlemen, and it's for sale at Amelia Island March 12th! More data at Peerless For Sale Department thread, AACA Peerless Forum.*** This six-cylinder Peerless goes up for sale tomorrow in Florida ***The house is betting on $250,000-350,00O. I was going to guess $310K, but since it apparently has an 825 cubic inch engine, I'm going to guess $510K. There is no way to know what the bids will be....but that's the largest size engine ever put in a production car. Ever. Pierce-Arrow did tie that, but no one exceeded it. So maybe it will break the top Peerless sale price....which is $469,000, for a 4-cylinder.Anyone else want to guess? Edited March 12, 2015 by jeff_a (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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