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On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 8:07 AM, alsancle said:

Frank,  where do your eyes go in this picture?

Honestly not sure...because I am totally distracted by the roofline/window height of this side view..... I would have to say that this car has the absolute best roofline of a 4 door closed car that I can think of.  That designer who did the original sketch, found the craftsmen to build it totally as he envisioned .... 

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On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 8:07 AM, alsancle said:

Frank,  where do your eyes go in this picture?

 

26 minutes ago, F&J said:

Honestly not sure...because I am totally distracted by the roofline/window height of this side view..... I would have to say that this car has the absolute best roofline of a 4 door closed car that I can think of.  That designer who did the original sketch, found the craftsmen to build it totally as he envisioned .... 

 

On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 0:16 AM, F&J said:

Just noticed it has blackwalls.... That is what I said on another thread about something that will subconsciously steal your eye, which prevents seeing the whole thing, as your eye or brain can't wander aimlessly to all the subtle details.

 

 

Just a wake up call for my own brains thought pattern:   That car is a perfect example how I viewed this particular car, in it's colors and accessories. Rather than being stuck in a box of always concentrating on chassis size, or wheel/tire treatments... My eye did not get distracted by those, I instantly liked the first total view, then I first went to the stunning roofline, then my eye wandered next to the symmetry of the opposing doors which also is a home run, then the ratio of roof height to lower body, etc.

 

The point is only to say, that I assume tires/wheels must not be something that my subconscious tells me to look at first.  Like if you know a guy who is a "boob" guy, his brain is subconsciously pre-programmed by him, and he always checks a woman's chest out first, without really knowing it.... and only then, does his brain allow his eyes to wander.

 

A beautifully designed car should start your brain off fresh, and not instantly see the LWB or hood length etc.. it wanders, not knowing what on earth to focus on first.  If that makes any sense.

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I don't know that Ray Dietrich ever did a bad design.  One of the guys on the forum studies body design (Steve) and he explained that the reason that car looks right.  Hopefully I don't mess it up but 3 things and maybe he can chime in with a better explanation:  1. Note the edge of the radiator sits on the front axle while the back of the roof sits on the back axle.   With your basic sedan, that rear line is always after the rear axle.   2.  The 3,2,1 side light principle.  The front door glass is 50% bigger than the rear door glass which is 100% bigger than the back roof line.  Finally the height of the green house is very low, especially for 1931.

 

The body on this car is set back 4 inches and that extra length is in the cowl which extends the hood.  That doesn't hurt either.

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I sometimes might give the impression that I think too much or talk too much... but I wanted to say how I first realized that each person or living creature with eyes, do indeed have uncontrollable eye movements when seeing anything..

 

Decades ago, some entertainment program/TV show, hired some tech crew to set up some sort of laser thing to project a tiny red dot on the exact precise spot that a guys eyes were pointing at.  The point of the test was to try to see if "all guys" went to the "naughty bits", before anything else.

 

The many guys that were tested, got an instant 30 second view of a "standing up" stunning gal in early 20s dressed in tight fitting jeans and top. 

 

The red dot was always jittery, some guys red dot jittered around at the facial area, some back and forth at the boobs, and some back/forth at the crotch level, and apparently also to hip width.  Then "that group" of men were seen to proving that those were the 3 main "first focus" of "most" men, as after some time, then the dot went to waist size, upper thigh, hair type, etc.  These movements were shown to be totally uncontrollable when they later instructed each guy to retest, and not focus on "parts" but to just take in the whole person....but the dot was still all over the place.  Interesting to me, anyways.

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I forgot the most important part of that tests results, that has to do with a person who always scrutinizes something like tires/wheels..

 

The tests on all the guys proved which guy was a boob guy or face guy.  The dot always quickly went to all areas, and never locked in at dead stop, but a face guy always noticeably kept going back to the face after going to hips again, or then waist again etc. The percentage of total time that it went to one spot constantly, showed that each guy had a different preprogrammed and subconscious, focal area.

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Last post on that test, .. I promise ..

 

Al's many posts over the years, has given me the impression that tires/wheels and then added doo dads like Trippe lights are his "box", yet he isb truly "gifted" by the fact that he still can see a great car lurking beneath those,..... so that is sort of not being trapped by that obvious box.

 

My new LaSalle taught me that I was totally in a subconscious? box for decades.  Partly as most people cannot have one of everything like Harrah was able to have, so we train ourselves consciously/subconsciously to "prefer" a certain year, era, or a certain marque.  That could be to keep us from never being unhappy with what we can afford, restore, maintain, drive or store?

 

I forced myself consciously to focus only on 1932-ish auto styling for the above reasons.  The LaSalle broke all patterns in that it is the only car I ever fell for, and eventually, totally, but did not like it's looks at all, at first.  I was in a box and did not know it, with 50 years being around vintage cars.  Not just what I bought for myself, but perhaps 200 more for flipping.  We flippers, tend to seek out cars we know the popularity of, or know the market, but we often mess up by buying what we like for some reason, then find out the rest of the world does not want what we prefer.

 

time to go to work today :)

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That brings back memories. Deerfield Beach Florida was a stop for me every time I went to southern Florida back in the 80’s. The  Dr.  and his brother in law the colonel.............”where you would send a friend”.......... I can see myself in my Ozzy Osborne T shirt and wallet with the chain walking around the shop. The hobby seemed much more fun back then.......

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On 11/9/2017 at 6:10 PM, edinmass said:

That brings back memories. Deerfield Beach Florida was a stop for me every time I went to southern Florida back in the 80’s. The  Dr.  and his brother in law the colonel.............”where you would send a friend”.......... I can see myself in my Ozzy Osborne T shirt and wallet with the chain walking around the shop. The hobby seemed much more fun back then.......

He always had really great "unrestored" cars - last one we looked at with him was a 1932 Pierce Arrow V-12 Coupe. 

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14 hours ago, alsancle said:

I always thought this was a Murray built 152.  But looking closely I believe it is coachbuilt.  Notice where body ends over axle, and compare rear door to factory car posted above.   Also,  those are Dietrich door handles.

 

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I see the picture didn't stick.  Here it is.

 

 

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RM is selling one of the very few coupes.

 

https://www.rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/AM18/Amelia-Island/lots/r0109-1932-reo-royale-8-35-convertible-coupe/647919

 

In many ways the "ultimate" Royale, the 8-35 convertible coupe offered here was one of 48 produced in 1932, and is one of just five known to survive, including examples in some of the U.S.'s finest collections. It was formerly owned by the renowned collectors Tom Lester and S. Ray Miller, and was restored for Mr. Miller by LaVine Restorations of Nappanee, Indiana, the foremost specialists in this model (as happy Royale owners themselves). Following the restoration, the car became an AACA and CCCA National First Prize winner, the latter with a perfect score of 100 points. It was also featured in Beverly Rae Kimes' famous book, The Classic Car.

Following the sale of the Miller collection, the Reo became part of the well-known Milhous Brothers collection in Florida, then was acquired by its current owner in 2009. It remains in well-maintained condition and is still very attractive, with rich navy blue and silver paintwork striped in red, a Haartz cloth top, and handsome navy interior, all accented by fine brightwork. Numerous period accessories are fitted throughout.

Make no mistake, the Royale is one of the great automobiles of its era - equal in every way to its more famous competition. This is one of the finest to be offered in many years, and inarguably the most desirable.

 

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11 hours ago, West Peterson said:

You know what that car needs....

 

Blackwalls of course.   I think replacing the silver with blue would make a difference too.  It is missing the sidemount covers.  The Royale owners are doing a project as they are unobtainable,  the new owner should get it on it.

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48 minutes ago, alsancle said:

 

It is missing the sidemount covers.  The Royale owners are doing a project as they are unobtainable,  the new owner should get it on it.

That reminds me, I need to give Steve B a call and get him to send me that original Lyon emblem for I can get it reproduced for those guys.

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On 2/16/2018 at 8:17 PM, alsancle said:

Eddie, it has nine mains, but only 360 cubes, not enough for a big boy like you.

 

I could tweek it and make it  perform better. The motor can handle it, and I would enjoy testing it before and after. Punch it out, do a trick valve job, regrind  the cam,  bump the compression, recurve the distributor, put a decent carb on it, improve the exhaust, bet it could get another twenty percent out of it easy. Maybe you should send me your motor before you install it? ?  ? ? ? 

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