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Hello all.  I just read through the entire thread to catch up.  What great exchanges and information.  To throw in my participation I wanted to address a question about the air deflector in front of the exhaust manifold.  Some place in my discussions with other Royale owners it was explained that the shield was to keep the air from the radiator from cooling the manifold and thus changing how the engine would perform.  Sounds logical in a way and the only explanation I have heard so far.  An earlier post shows the 8-35 sedan that was for sale on Ebay out in New York.  That car did not sell and I contacted the seller after the auction and we came to a deal and it came home with me to Wisconsin.  I am currently going through all the mechanicals to make the car drivable and safe.  It is a very solid car with what I believe to be original paint.  The interior is quite nice but I suspect it has been redone at some time in the past as some of the sewing lines are not straight and the carpet is later for sure. Mechanically it is in pretty good shape as well.  I drained what looked like fresh antifreeze out of it, the engine oil did not look to bad and the engine is free.  My goal is to have it ready for the REO national meet in Wisconsin next July.   I also recently purchased the Royale coupe owned by Gerd and Diane Hermann of New York.  Gerd passed almost 5 years ago.  I had talked with Diane a couple years ago about what she planned on doing with the car and she indicated it would be for sale.  It took us a little over a year to get together for me to see the car.  At that time I did get it running, with very old gas no less, and could move it forward and back but the brakes seemed stuck somewhat.  Not surprising as it has sat for 4 years at that point no being touched.  Gerd only trailered the car to shows so it needed some going over which I did between May and July when I took it to the REO meet in Kerrville Tx.  Drove the car on the first day of tours and it was a dream to drive.  At the very end of the day however with temps in the mid 90s I got stuck behind very slow traffic going up a long hill and then setting at the top to park and when I shut it off the blew about a gallon of coolant out the top of the radiator.   We discovered that the lower hose was collapsing as soon as the engine started.   Hose is not correct, the radiator looks replaced with a new one without the correct tube on the bottom hose.   Let it cool down and filled it up with water and made it back to the hotel without further problems.  Did not drive the second day but the weather was not to good anyway.  So a few more things to deal with and I also hope to have this car ready for next July.  This car is the Red one on the end of the line in the tx photo of all the Royale's lined up.  I also have a rare REO mate phaeton that I got from Don Olson of Vermont years ago before he passed.  I have two daughters that I am hoping will join me in bringing all three cars to the meet in July, maybe even driving them there.   We are only a couple hours away so I think it will be possible but they both just had little boys so not sure about how we travel with infants and no seat belts for the car seats.

The discussions about tire size is very interesting also.  My understanding is that the original 650's were larger than what is available today but smaller than the current 700's which makes sense. I also agree with Al that the blackwalls look better even though I have whitewalls on 3 of my REO's ( I also have a 29 flying cloud).   I will at some point change them out.  As for covers I am working with a fellow in Wi to make the sidemount covers and hope to have some after the first of the year.  We already stamped more water jacket covers (used JIm Carlsons molds). I have them in raw stainless steel or can polish them if anyone needs them.  We are also going to be reproducing hub caps made exactly as REO did.  They will be complete or just the skins will be available.  We also made new water disperse tubes for inside the engine out of brass.  I may have one or two of those available also.  Great discussion, keep it up. Dave

 

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23 minutes ago, reoinwi said:

Great discussion, keep it up. Dave

 

Thanks for the update Dave!  I know you share a lot of stuff with the other Royale owners,  but some picture updates here for the rest of the world would be appreciated I'm sure.

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Per Al request here are some pictures.  The grey car is a  27 flying cloud sedan made into a "parade" car I bought for parts.  I may turn this into a sedan delivery. 

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Something I have been researching lately is how these cars were pinstriped from the factory.  If you look at the sedan I posted it has a lot of striping including two up around the windshield area.  I believe this car has the original paint and this may have been done at the factory, or maybe after the original purchaser received it.  It also has initials painted on the rear passenger door.  The coupe has gold tape pinstriping which is going away.  I have looked at many photo's of coupes along with artist drawings from magazine ads.  It is a little hard to determine exactly how they were done.  I think this car is close but the strips are in the wrong area and need to be move slightly to have them meet properly to go down the good spear together.  I have a good striper friend who is going to redo this for me but I need to decide the correct color to use.  Any input would be appreciated.  

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Great car, and I like it just the way it is......that being said........I wouldn’t bet money that’s the original striping on the car. It looks a bit over the top for the era.............most were done in a conservative and light hand. The stripe just under the window is much, much more than one would expect with that body style and color combination.  In fifty years of looking at cars, the triple stripe on the hod is a first.........I would love to inspect the car in person, but it’s just a guess that the striping is done at a much later time than when the car was built.........

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On ‎11‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 6:34 PM, reoinwi said:

Hello all.  I just read through the entire thread to catch up.  What great exchanges and information.  To throw in my participation I wanted to address a question about the air deflector in front of the exhaust manifold.  Some place in my discussions with other Royale owners it was explained that the shield was to keep the air from the radiator from cooling the manifold and thus changing how the engine would perform.  Sounds logical in a way and the only explanation I have heard so far.  An earlier post shows the 8-35 sedan that was for sale on Ebay out in New York.  That car did not sell and I contacted the seller after the auction and we came to a deal and it came home with me to Wisconsin.  I am currently going through all the mechanicals to make the car drivable and safe.  It is a very solid car with what I believe to be original paint.  The interior is quite nice but I suspect it has been redone at some time in the past as some of the sewing lines are not straight and the carpet is later for sure. Mechanically it is in pretty good shape as well.  I drained what looked like fresh antifreeze out of it, the engine oil did not look to bad and the engine is free.  My goal is to have it ready for the REO national meet in Wisconsin next July.   I also recently purchased the Royale coupe owned by Gerd and Diane Hermann of New York.  Gerd passed almost 5 years ago.  I had talked with Diane a couple years ago about what she planned on doing with the car and she indicated it would be for sale.  It took us a little over a year to get together for me to see the car.  At that time I did get it running, with very old gas no less, and could move it forward and back but the brakes seemed stuck somewhat.  Not surprising as it has sat for 4 years at that point no being touched.  Gerd only trailered the car to shows so it needed some going over which I did between May and July when I took it to the REO meet in Kerrville Tx.  Drove the car on the first day of tours and it was a dream to drive.  At the very end of the day however with temps in the mid 90s I got stuck behind very slow traffic going up a long hill and then setting at the top to park and when I shut it off the blew about a gallon of coolant out the top of the radiator.   We discovered that the lower hose was collapsing as soon as the engine started.   Hose is not correct, the radiator looks replaced with a new one without the correct tube on the bottom hose.   Let it cool down and filled it up with water and made it back to the hotel without further problems.  Did not drive the second day but the weather was not to good anyway.  So a few more things to deal with and I also hope to have this car ready for next July.  This car is the Red one on the end of the line in the tx photo of all the Royale's lined up.  I also have a rare REO mate phaeton that I got from Don Olson of Vermont years ago before he passed.  I have two daughters that I am hoping will join me in bringing all three cars to the meet in July, maybe even driving them there.   We are only a couple hours away so I think it will be possible but they both just had little boys so not sure about how we travel with infants and no seat belts for the car seats.

The discussions about tire size is very interesting also.  My understanding is that the original 650's were larger than what is available today but smaller than the current 700's which makes sense. I also agree with Al that the blackwalls look better even though I have whitewalls on 3 of my REO's ( I also have a 29 flying cloud).   I will at some point change them out.  As for covers I am working with a fellow in Wi to make the sidemount covers and hope to have some after the first of the year.  We already stamped more water jacket covers (used JIm Carlsons molds). I have them in raw stainless steel or can polish them if anyone needs them.  We are also going to be reproducing hub caps made exactly as REO did.  They will be complete or just the skins will be available.  We also made new water disperse tubes for inside the engine out of brass.  I may have one or two of those available also.  Great discussion, keep it up. Dave

 

So nice to know the coupé is in good hands :-)

 

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On 12/1/2016 at 7:44 PM, alsancle said:

Ed found this over on Facebook (where I refuse to go).  At first it looks like a period picture.  There is at least one factory photo showing a full chrome spare cover but whatever is behind the car makes me think 1960s.

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anyone more info on this car or person ? this might be our car prior to 1964 ... 

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On 12/4/2019 at 8:39 AM, reoinwi said:

made the pic a little smaller, striping in the back window 

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Thank you very much for your posting of pinstripes !

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1 hour ago, ReoRoyale835 said:

anyone more info on this car or person ? this might be our car prior to 1964 ... 

Cannot think of fellows name offhand - a 60's photo I believe and I believe he also owned a Franklin - car is last I heard exactly same and mostly unrestored still.

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18 hours ago, edinmass said:

Great car, and I like it just the way it is......that being said........I wouldn’t bet money that’s the original striping on the car. It looks a bit over the top for the era.............most were done in a conservative and light hand. The stripe just under the window is much, much more than one would expect with that body style and color combination.  In fifty years of looking at cars, the triple stripe on the hod is a first.........I would love to inspect the car in person, but it’s just a guess that the striping is done at a much later time than when the car was built.........

I noticed the thickness of stripe, though a 1932 Packard Twin Six with all the narrow double stripping is "a lot of glitz" on a car too. 

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