RivNut Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Both are standard. The stainless piece on the driver's side it to protect the carpet from the shoe on the accelerator. I guess Buick figured no one would put their foot that close to the console unless there was a pedal close by.Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 My '64 has the FW code - Seat belts w/ retractors. My question is this. Because my car was built 7A (first week of July) does the seat belt code only appear because of the retractors? If it were mandatory after Jan. 1, 1964, there wouldn't be a need for a seat belt code. Who else out there with cars built after 1A can look at their data plate to see if you have a seat belt code on your data plate. 5Z - seat belts or 5W - seat belts w/ retractors. My theory is that if the federal mandate date is correct, after 1A, you shouldn't have a seat belt code unless it's 5W for seat belts with retractors. If there are any 5Z cars out there built after 1A, then my theory is kapoot. EdPS the K in the 5 group is for door edge guards.Ed, I suspect your theory is kapooot. It makes perfect sense that Fisher would continue with a seat belt code if that operating principle was already in place before Jan 1, `64. Why make a change in procedure? It is true it seems redundant to use the code if the seat belts became mandatory for every car but why risk changing procedure and possibly confusing employees? From a management perspective what is the downside to keep using the code, at least for the duration of the model year?The question that comes to mind for me is what style buckle became standard equipment? Did Fisher continue with a chrome plated buckle or resort to the more inexpensive plastic as in `65? Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dwhiteside64 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Same as mine. Group 5, Z - seat belts w/ retainers, and K - Door edge guards. Thanks,EdMy '64 has a build date of 12B (second week December 63) and it too has 5ZK. Is there any difference between retractors and retainers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 My '64 has a build date of 12B (second week December 63) and it too has 5ZK. Is there any difference between retractors and retainers?Nothing except my typo. Should have been retractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIVNIK Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hey Dawg, great find! Before you spend the big buck returning your Riv to factory condition you should decide which museum to donate it to, because you'll be scared to death to drive it anywhere! Conventional wisdom is starting to come around to the fact that your car can be just as valuable in a well preserved "driver" condition, or what it would look like if it had been babied all it's life, as opposed to an incredibly expensive frame-off restoration. Having said that, some cars are beyond that, but yours looks like a perfect candidate for an extensive detailing. If it was mine, I would take care of the most urgent mechanical problems, replace the seat covers & the rubber, etc. , & then use all that time & money you saved on your new hobby, finding parts, tinkering, & detailing in your leisure time. You will appreciate your baby so much more if it is a labor of love. And like someone else already said, beware of people telling you one part fits all three first gen Rivs….& by the way, I have a proper round drivers rear view mirror from my '65 if you need one. It fits all three years. Drew Rivnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric's.64.Superwildcat Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Tom, For my '64 with assembly date of 02D it has the plastic buckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Tom, For my '64 with assembly date of 02D it has the plastic buckle.Eric, do you have the 5Z seat belt code? Does the plastic buckle have the Fisher Body carriage on it? A pic? Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric's.64.Superwildcat Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Tom, Yes, my cowl tag is '5ZK'. Photos are below. It is the plane-jane plastic buckle. I had the seat belt out of the car and bagged for the winter since I'm working on my driver's side seat. Photos are below. I wish I had the chrome plated buckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Here's a picture of the buckle and tag on my '64 belts along with a picture of a '64 retractor that I got from Ken Reeves at Wheatbelt. If I'm not mistaken, the '64 buckle is a one year item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenugent Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Ed my 63 has the V buckle-front seats only.Tim Nugent roa 12969... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dwhiteside64 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi again I was wondering if safety belts during 63-64 time frame were often installed at the dealer even for cars ordered at that factory with that option? That could explain for the wide variety of buckle styles and manufacturers. What are your thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 For '63 and up until Jan of '64, I'd say you are correct. I'll find my way into my '63 and see what the tags on the belts say and post a picture of the buckle halves. I know mine were aftermarket/dealer installed (not sure which) because I have the window sticker for my car and belts aren't listed on it.Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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