nick8086 501 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What car would you put this on??Should I sell it or scrap it?I have a set of 4. Link to post Share on other sites
Henry White 10 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I cant recall what those are called but I think they may be worth quite a bit of money if they are what I think they are. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 AMERICAN RACING TORQUE THRUST II. One wheel had AMERICAN RACING on it..I also have one SLOTTED MAG. It is for a wide tire.. Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Coyote 1,208 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Look like the magnesium wheels. My neighbor has them on his 1960's era Sand Flea dune buggy. Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,357 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Sell. MUCH better than scrap!! Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 You can buy them and put them on a 1960's era Sand Flea dune buggy.I had to look thur 90 tires to find them... Link to post Share on other sites
rocketraider 185 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What bolt pattern and what kind of money? Those would look real nice on any 60s musclecar. Bet they're American-made too. Link to post Share on other sites
joe_padavano 1,580 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What bolt pattern and what kind of money? Those would look real nice on any 60s musclecar. Bet they're American-made too.Too bad they're only 14". Much less desirable (and thus less valuable) than 15". Quite a bit of pitting and curb rash, so don't expect to get stupid money for them, but yes there's a market - just not here at AACA. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Certainly not on a Classic or Antique car. Try any modified car. Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,357 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Go here and put them in the "classified" section....http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=59 Link to post Share on other sites
Henry White 10 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Are they Hurst wheels? It seems someone wouldve said so by now if they were, but IDK. I just recall something which looked similar sell on ebay for some big money. Maybe like a bunch of old guys at car shows, what I recall is not the way it was. Link to post Share on other sites
joe_padavano 1,580 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Are they Hurst wheels? Huh? Not even close. Here's a Hurst wheel (hint: Google Images is a great way to answer questions like this) Link to post Share on other sites
39BuickEight 884 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 that's a dune buggy wheel if I"ve ever seen one, same era boat trailers also were customized with them quite often, and a few cars, but the purist in me hates to mention the cars lol Link to post Share on other sites
joe_padavano 1,580 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 "Dune buggy wheels"????Uh, sure...They look like vintage ET Mags, though other manufacturers made similar wheels over the years. Note that these wheels came in both one bolt pattern and uni-lug configurations. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 AMERICAN RACING wheel... Link to post Share on other sites
The Edsel 10 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I'd sell it. Someone will buy it. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 that's a dune buggy wheel if I"ve ever seen one, same era boat trailers also were customized with them quite often, and a few cars, but the purist in me hates to mention the cars lol????http://www.hotrodhotline.com/sites/default/files/images/ar-vn309-torq-thrust-painted-gray-with-machined-lip_1.jpghttp://www.hotrodhotline.com/sites/default/files/images/ar-vn309-torq-thrust-painted-gray-with-machined-lip_1.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
39BuickEight 884 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 When I see those wheels, this is the first thing that comes to mind. I realize they are put on cars all the time, but for me, this is where they belong:http://imganuncios.mitula.net/1970_blue_volkswagen_dune_buggy_for_sale_in_mount_calvary_wi_53057_96635328543411648.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,357 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 They are NOT specifically for dune buggies. They are simply aftermarket mag wheels for ANY car with that bolt pattern. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 When I see those wheels, this is the first thing that comes to mind. I realize they are put on cars all the time, but for me, this is where they belong:http://imganuncios.mitula.net/1970_blue_volkswagen_dune_buggy_for_sale_in_mount_calvary_wi_53057_96635328543411648.jpg A little history:[h=2]History[edit][/h]"Romeo Palamides, an early drag racing innovator and grandfather of jet car racing, designed and crafted leading edge, high strength-to-weight magnesium drag racing wheels for a competition dragster designed in the early 1950s for competition. The vehicle debuted on the cover of the November 1956 issue of Hot Rod Magazine. The car gained attention but, in the early years of hot rodding, there was considerable street enthusiast interest in the lightweight, high-tech wheels he had custom-designed for the car. Romeo's vision, working from Jim Ellison's small machine shop in San Francisco, along with engineering innovator Tom Griffith, evolved into America's leading aftermarket wheel company. In 1956, they formed American Racing Equipment."(http://www.americanracing.com/company.asp)Platinum Equity investment group acquired American Racing Equipment Inc in June 2005.[1][h=2]Torq Thrust[edit][/h]American Racing became famous with the Torq Thrust wheel that, although first applied on the dragstrip, became a popular street racing wheel. The Torq Thrust was specifically designed with a "tapered parabolic contour" spoke, as opposed to a semi-solid modular design, to increase brake cooling and simultaneously decrease wheel mass.The American Racing Torq Thrust wheel is considered by some as the most famous muscle car wheel of all time[2] and is sometimes credited as starting the entire custom wheel movement. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Thanks, That was great to read about them.Do you know what year they may be from the back? Iam thinking 1963-1974. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks, That was great to read about them.Do you know what year they may be from the back? Iam thinking 1963-1974. I think they still make them. Many muscle car people and rodders have them. see the link; https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CEIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanracingwheelsinfo.com%2FAmerican_Racing_Torq_Thrust_II.htm&ei=mTayUpeICdDcoATT54KwAw&usg=AFQjCNH6ozq2JyFoyYd5CVAMOTkYZgL7_w&bvm=bv.58187178,d.cGU Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,357 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks, That was great to read about them.Do you know what year they may be from the back? Iam thinking 1963-1974.I believe they started making that style in 1967 or 1968. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I believe they started making that style in 1967 or 1968. here is a picture of Tommy Ivo's top fuel dragster in 1962 with the Torque Thrust mag. American racing makes these wheels with all types of backspacing and off-sets see the link. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcacklefest.com%2FBarnstormer.shtml&ei=gEWyUpKxLMvyoASe54CAAw&usg=AFQjCNEnUkjx_AIjQgPCl74idJGyeKJurQ&bvm=bv.58187178,d.cGUHere is another picture before 1962.. I'm pretty sure it's 1959:http://cacklefest.com/images/Ivo-UK-1.jpg Here is a picture of Ivo's twin Buick dragster 1961 with American Racings Torque thrust wheels. http://www.standard1320.com/Ivo/Hemi/Barnstormer/IN-LINE%20TWIN%20BUICKside.jpg Remember them in the movie Bullitt??http://www.themovies.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/bullitt_089pyxurz.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,357 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 here is a picture of Tommy Ivo's top fuel dragster in 1962 with the Torque Thrust mag. American racing makes these wheels with all types of backspacing and off-sets see the link. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcacklefest.com%2FBarnstormer.shtml&ei=gEWyUpKxLMvyoASe54CAAw&usg=AFQjCNEnUkjx_AIjQgPCl74idJGyeKJurQ&bvm=bv.58187178,d.cGUHere is another picture before 1962.. I'm pretty sure it's 1959:http://cacklefest.com/images/Ivo-UK-1.jpgYes...if you look closer, you will notice that those are conical spokes on the dragster. I had a set of those. The items in question have a sort of "ridge" on each of the spokes. I believe the ones in question are later like I suggested. I could be wrong, but as an ex racer kind of guy, I remember when they changed them. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 Any one have a picture of the back of the Rim from 1967-1978 Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 When I see those wheels, this is the first thing that comes to mind. I realize they are put on cars all the time, but for me, this is where they belong:http://imganuncios.mitula.net/1970_blue_volkswagen_dune_buggy_for_sale_in_mount_calvary_wi_53057_96635328543411648.jpgIt might work, But they are the same size 6 inch..They Dune Buggy Has wide ones in the back.... Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Coyote 1,208 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The ones my neighbor has on his buggy are ET mags and they have a Chevy bolt pattern. He has adapters for a VW chassis. 14" up front and 15" in the rear. I will enclose some pics. Link to post Share on other sites
whtbaron 18 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 As previously mentioned, wheels like these are still being manufactured. Put them up for sale, but in my opinion the cost of getting them re-polished and/or chromed will be high enough that you would be further ahead to buy new wheels. Not to mention that they may not be straight or properly balanced...I don't know why everyone is so hung up on dunebugs, they are an interesting find for anyone building a 60's retro-car, but I wouldn't expect them to draw big money. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Dune buggies??? I think they are for a Truck...I tried to get on the Hamb.http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=59no luckThey look different when you take the 40 years of dirt of them... Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 One of the Tires is a mobil pegasus tires. Any one want it? It has the pegasus in the rubber about every six inches on the side wall.. Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Coyote 1,208 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 My neighbors 1960 era Sand Flea made by National Auto Glas back in the 60's (not the window glass co.) It has a 140hp Corvair Citation engine with 4 carbs, and yes ET mags. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I see them on 1930-40 trucks and the Kaisers.. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I will put them for sale in March. I thinking 35 to 65 .00 each... I will post them before this car show.http://www.enwicc.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
whtbaron 18 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Are they all the same size and back spacing? They look like 14x6's with no offset, but you've never said the exact size or bolt pattern. The finish on your last post looks much better(albeit still pitted), if they are all in similar condition. Next thing is to check for damage or pitting along the inner rims, out of round, bends or cracks. If they are good you might be able to start negotiating a little higher... maybe start at $125 and be prepared to come down. Link to post Share on other sites
nick8086 501 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 The wheel is 14x6's with no offset.Bolt pattern is 5 x 5. I still need to get a wheel to make sure.I took a tape measure and went from one hole across to the other. Link to post Share on other sites
whtbaron 18 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I doubt that you'll see many 14" wheels on a truck... more likely 60's cars. This is the proper way to measure the bolt pattern.http://www.accessconnect.com/trailer_tires_wheels.htm Link to post Share on other sites
AlCapone 177 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If you decide to sell I would not make reservations for dinner beyond the Golden Arches and don't expect a combo. Not quite a dime a dozen, but close ! Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,357 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Maybe you need to re-make the "Lil Coffin" and use them on it.... Link to post Share on other sites
joe_padavano 1,580 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Since folks seem to think these wheels belong on dune buggies or street rods, here's a photo directly from this forum. Looks pretty good to me. Link to post Share on other sites
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