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A very thin wrench is needed, for nut below cable,, Maybee a bicycle wrench,,

File to size if correct size is not at local store,,Cheers,,Ben

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Have you had the switch off to see how the push button conducts the currant,,??

Keep at it,,This is both a fix the car as well as learning excercise,,Cheers,,Ben

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Yes, First thing I did was check the switch. It is quite beefy. Large contact and very positive contact.

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Still screwing around with this thing. Starter was rebuilt, remounted ( what a pain in the a**) Now hit starter it whines but doesn't deploy the bendix. Loosened nuts, hit with rubber hammer etc. Getting to roll the thing out of the garage and light it on fire.

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As seen on other posts in this forum, its these little glitches that make the car "enduring" to its owner. Don't give up yet!! Getting the starter to spin is farther ahead that you were when you started this discussion.

Terry

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Does The amount of depression of the lever on the starter have anything to do with deployment of the bendix??? If so I may have screwed myself. Rather than depressing the starter pedal 3 inches I made an aluminum block to take up about 2.5" of travel so I only have to depress the starter pedal half an inch. That could be why the starter spins and the bendix doesn't fly out inside????

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Be careful of any and all assumptions when working on non currant models,,

We assume the starter has been SUCCESSFULLY rebuilt,,,,,as A 6 VOLT,,What if the fellow put in a 12 volt field coil,,,Just a part # or 22 different,,Sure it'll run ,,,,but no ZZIP,,,lazy,,,

When on the bench,,make contact w/ 6v and it should want to flip around,,,NO I dont have a meter,,,Is there anyone around you that has experience with older [6v] tractors,,They tend to be in service longer,,,

Many years ago I had 5 rebuilt/remanufactured clutch pressure plates,,,#6 was the good one,,

Could ya believe,,,I do now,,,I went over to the clutch shop and talked to the owner,,as it was

his nickel that was at stake,,I think 3 guys were fired on that one,,,

Any clutch that came out of the old Chickering Piano building [boston Clutch] was perfect,,

corner of Mass Ave and Washington st,,Largest piano factory in the world,,back when Boston

was piano capitol of the world,,,It was just a few streets over on Mass Av, from Symphony Hall

Oh yes,,the 1906 Stanley [record racer 127mph] was on Sympony Hall stage at the auto show that year,,1906 was a good year,,

A friend of mine worked at the generator/starter shop,,HE told me that one guy would test em and then THROW em into a laundry cart to be boxed and shipped,,So every one had a good chance of failure,,,The shop was located in a hi drug area also,,,So look around,,the problems may not all be yours,,Alcohol may be a larger problem than pot,,,If you cant control it might as well at least be aware,,,

NoW,,,when you had it on the bench,,,how free was the gear on that twist spline part of the shaft where the pinion rides,,,,,,There is a li'll [tiny] pin[nail] spring,,,a bit larger than a ball point pen guts,,that prevents the gear from rattling back/forth on the spline/shaft,,

There is a weight on one side also to assist in this I think,,,Refer to Dyke's manual,,

The model T used these also,,,,Hope you enjoy a history lesson with the tech comments,,

Were all waiting for the next installment,,Cheers,,Ben,,,,Now you know why I don't like electric

poorly made anything,,Gas lights always work,,Still dont like juce brakes Nothing

in the world like a good Packard 30 as a daily driver,,,lets see how many smile on that one,,,CB

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OOOOOps,,,,A BENDIX drive has an enerta engagement,,pinion on a shaft with

SPLINE,,,about an inch or 2 per revolution,,,like an ACME thread on a lathe lead screw,,,[do lathes still have lead screws??],,

The manual engagement gear is on a spline shaft,,,and the gear is pushed back an forth into--out of the flywheel by PEDAL---OR--SLENOID,,,,thats the 2"d thing 3" long sits atop the starter and has a couple of wire terminals,,, Selenoid is good because in winter,,,if 1 cyl fires it sometimes causes the BENIX to kick out,,,and the starter spins,,,,no go,,,grr,,Cheers,,Ben

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Achtung! Achtung! Yes....I screwed myself machining the part between the foot starter pedal and the starter. Bone tumor in the femur and multiple surgeries left a weak leg. Thought to reduce travel (and pressure on the femur) was a good idea. NO!! The pedal needs to go down to throw out the bendix as well as deploy the starter motor. Still not started but getting closer!!!!! Thanks Will let you know! Fred

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For later on,,,,,,,There is probably a retro fit starter that will have the engagement selenoid on top to make it a push button affair,,like a 1915 Pierce-arrow or Locomobile,,haha,,Ben

Need a second person,,,,Put a wire from the coil to spark plug lying loose on the engine,,

kick er over w/key on,,,should get spark on every compression sroke,,ie,,3sparksm/ rev,,

Pit about 1/2 to 1 oz gas down the carb,, wires where they belong,,,see if she fires,,,

If theres compression it should fire,,,,

We didn't check the rotor,,dist,,,so if no go,,pull the plug wires off and hook to spare set of [good] plugs,,,and see if they all spark,,A word here,,,be sure plug wires have not gottn

mixed up,,,1no start,,,,2,,,If a plug fires when the intake valve is open,,,chance of a fire ,,flare up,is quite likely,,,Have friend put an old # plate over carb,,to cut off air ,,fire goes out,,,puttin on the aircleaner probably same effect,,,[ [The Stanley steamer handbook says to lift the hood so it don't burn the paint]]]

Listen to the starter noise,,,,,,,,good compression will crank slower,,,,,,uneven cranking

indicates leaky valves,,,,oh yeh,,,squirt a few shots from the oil can in the cylenders,,,engine oil,,,It will help seal the rings,,,,even briefly,,,,and help get it running

There was a fishing boat 1cyl engine make an' break ign,,,so loose ,,to get it started,,they took off the head and greesed the bore put in a prime charge of gas and started it first pull,,,

If it didnt start first pull,,,head off again,,,,That engine was Loooose,,Eventually they made a new set of rings for the old girl,,,,,Memories,,,Ben

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STARTED!!!!!

My Many thanks to all that helped and stuck with me. There were a multiple failures....All sorted out and started today! Ran for 20 minutes. Fuel leak at the filter bowl. Shut it down. Will deal with that tomorrow. I think I am out of luck for at least today. Many thanks to all that helped and supported me!!!! Thank you, Thank you, thank you. Lots of times it just takes reinforcement of what you are thinking to push you forward. THANKS TO ALL!! Fred

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