gundog99 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The Dodge had a slow puncture last week . I fitted the spare which last year had punctured when I was driving and as it turned out the tire was very badly damaged; I was driving home luckily my wife was following me ,She alerted me, thinking something was stuck on the inner tire wall. Not only has it split but the rubber is no longer binding to the core. I was surprised to find that the tires are all stamped " seconds". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McEwan Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 A regular nail or something in the treaded part should not be a problem but the sidewall is a different story. Very dangerous. Maybe your tyres a retreads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Bad luck, Gundog99. I think we have all got used to taking steel braced radials for granted these days. Cross ply tyres on quite a heavy car are one thing; 'seconds' are probably not a good idea. I expect you will be changing them all for new ones - quite an expense! - but in my view a price worth paying. Mine are all "Excelsior" 440/450 x 21 but just how old they are is anyone's guess! They look O.K. but could be lethal for all I know!Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Years ago, tire sales houses offered seconds for a lower price. I believe this practice is now gone. May still be able to purchase whitewalls that are "blemished" for cheaper money. The tire you show, is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Something of a diversion from Dodge but the front tires on my 1930 Austin Swallow are 325x19 ex W/D (War Department) and hardly worn. Unlike the rubber we buy these days, the military must have had access to some really good stuff. The bead has not rusted and the rubber is still supple and not perished at all! The tread is slightly narrower (should be 350) but as motor cycle tyres they work well on the little Austin 7. Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Ray,I don't know about the U.K. but all tires sold in the U.S. are date stamped. The interweb can explain the system. I always have to look it up.Dwight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 That's a thought, Dwight. I will have to check out my old Dodge tyres. If they are that old I won't be taking any chances.Many thanks for chipping in.Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 When I bought my Dodge Senior 9 years ago it was fitted with very old 19x600 Olympic's; the rubber had become very hard with age, this caused three of the car's rims to split running on our very bad local roads . There is no shock absorbing with an old hard tire ,I was luckily that there was no other damage to the rest of the car. Fortunately the Lincoln's 600/650 are still supple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I have not heard of that happening before, Gundog. I know if a car is left standing on it's tyres for a long time, flats can develop but never thought that rubber could get that hard. O.K. I really must check out the tyres on the Dodge.Thanks.Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I have not heard of that happening before, Gundog. I know if a car is left standing on it's tyres for a long time, flats can develop but never thought that rubber could get that hard. O.K. I really must check out the tyres on the Dodge.Thanks.Ray.When changing my friend's tires on his 1913 Cartercar, we just about had to use chisels because of the hardness of the tires. Finally had to get the correct equipment to change them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Those are some amazing pictures, John. That car looks like a lot of fun; RHD too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The car is totally original....except for the tires. Check the car out here being followed by us in a 1932 Chrysler coupe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) :cool:Where do I sign? Edited June 29, 2013 by R.White (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 :cool:Where do I sign?If you ever get this far over the pond, I will arrange a tour in that car for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 That's kind of you John. I believe it is a 'friction' drive car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Ray,Yes, friction drive. This youtube video has an excellent description of how it works. Edited June 30, 2013 by Dwight Romberger speeling (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Sorry to keep the hijack going, but yes, friction drive and works beautifully. The guy has another Cartercar, too. It is a 1914......same condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Thank for posting this John. I really enjoyed looking and BOY, do I wish I had access to those great, old car tire machines!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 When changing my friend's tires on his 1913 Cartercar, we just about had to use chisels because of the hardness of the tires. Finally had to get the correct equipment to change them.....Wow, that is extreme! Over time rubber goes hard with age ,strong light and a hot environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Just like old England, then! Haha:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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