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Peerless Motor Car Club will have a meet, show and tour in Michigan this August in conjunction with the annual Pierce-Arrow Gathering At Gilmore, held every year at The Gilmore Car Museum near Kalamazoo. There will be a 120-mile tour --- a 110-mile tour --- dinners --- private collection visits --- and a show. Official dates are the 23rd to 25th. A very detailed 2-page application has been mailed out for the joint meet. Contact Person from Pierce-Arrow Society: Dave Stevens in MI at:#(231) 894-2281, or #(231) 740-6610 (cellular); or PMCC Event Chairman David Baird in CA: #(949) 795-4151.

David Baird owns a Peerless Model 19 Seven-Passenger Touring Car that's over 100 years old, and was saying that the 3rd Peerless Annual National Meet might be in the Eastern U.S. in 2015. *** [Please see Post #10] ***

The first edition of a new version of the news letter, called The Co-Operator, will be coming in April. New version to be a quarterly magazine. David says will be sent to "previous and active members and to Peerless owners with addresses from previous mailing lists". Second edition already underway: contact Publisher/Editor Lis Nichols at #(714) 964-5573 {e-mail: lisnichols@socal.rr.com} if you have a photo or article you want to get in there. Not that many Peerless owners or Peerless Motor Car Club members use the Peerless Forum on a regular basis, that I know of, but here's your chance to get your word in. PMCC President Richard Lichtfeld has always said that there ought to be 200 members in this club...rather than just 75 (the biggest we have gotten), so there's lots of room for growth!

-----Jeff Brown

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I asked Dave Stevens if there is any way someone from the Peerless Motor Car Club could join all the activities of The Gathering and while they were there, indicate that their Peerless was for sale. There is no car corral or auction as one can find at the annual Hershey AACA Meet, but during the show on the grounds of the Pierce-Arrow Museum at The Gilmore Museum on Sunday, it would be O.K. to have a sign on the front seat of the car saying it was for sale. Please, no For Sale signs on windows.

Would it be easier to sell a car here on the AACA Forums? Yes. This is primarily a get-together to see and be around Pierce-Arrows and Peerlesses, based at one of the finest antique automobile museum complexes in North America. Not only are buying and selling things not a focus during the 3 1/2 days, there is no venue for that at all.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from taking a Peerless to this event...or to sell a car there[by word-or-mouth or putting a placard on the front seat]. Those of us who go will be guests at another club's gathering and I don't want anyone to get any incorrect notions. There will be two tours for the Pierce-Arrows and Peerlesses, private car collections to see, public car collections to see, meals, and a low-key car show...but no swaps/sales areas/auctions. I think that's great: I couldn't afford to buy any of the motor cars on this tour, but I could afford to look at them!

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We are looking forward to the Peerless--Pierce-Arrow meet at the Gilmore Museum on August 23 - 25th. I have had some heart problems this year that has slowed me down some but if all goes well we will be there with our 1916 Peerless touring. My 1917 Peerless went to the upholstery shop this week for a new top and side curtains. I saw a Pierce-Arrow touring a couple of years ago that had clear plastic for side curtains that seemed to work good. It's not original but the visibility is much better than the original and that is what I am going to use. I don't like touring in the rain but sometimes we get caught. My '16 has the original curtains (restored) but visibility is bad with the curtains on and I don't put them up on the drivers front. I would rather get wet than crash. I hope we will have a good turn out of Peerless cars. I want to be able to bring my display of Peerless stuff to put on display. I am getting a lot of heat about going that week because it is my wives birthday and also our cities birthday and my wife is chairperson of the festival. As president of the Peerless Club I have to be at Gilmore, so we have been shifting around a lot of events and dates to make it happen. You Peerless owners have to help me out, I will catch hell if few Peerless show up, shift your dates around and be there so I can show my wife how important it is for us to be there. See you at Gilmore!!!! Richard Lichtfeld

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Remember that there's a connection between paying your dues for the Peerless Motor Car Club and getting access to the Known Peerless Automobile In Existence list: KPAIE is for paid members in the PMCC.

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I was talking to Club President Richard Lichtfeld this morning and he and Event/Membership Chairman David Baird decided to hold the 2014 Peerless Meet in Wisconsin. More details TBA as to region/dates/activities. RHL is very up on what places are good to include for antique auto events.

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The Peerless Motor Car Club will have a booth at Hershey this year. That will make 6 years in a row, though this is a new location. All interested in the Peerless Motor Car Company welcome to drop by, of course, whether Peerless owners or not!

*** Location: ORANGE FIELD -- OBM 2-3-4 ***

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Did anyone go to the Peerless booth at Hershey this year? Did anyone find any Peerless stuff? I understand it was wet on Friday and Saturday but that is not unusual. I have gone to Hershey for 40 plus years and it was normal for rain and much mud. The most profits were made by the tow trucks. What is happening to Hershey? I understand that they have moved most of their chocolate production to Mexico. RHL

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I went there. Of course, I worked at the booth WED, THU, and FRI. David Baird did also. Lots of people dropped by. Started west from Hershey Sunday morning, went by car to Altoona train station, headed west from there at 5:00 PM Monday. Not home yet...as it's quite a drive from the airport in W. Idaho to my house in E. Idaho(total: 10 hours by train, 15 hours by plane, 10 hours by car)...still en route by car.

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Richard,

Since no one has responded to your questions about the The Peerless Motor Car Club booth, I'll try to report what I saw. David Baird and I had a big tent with a 1909 Peerless Model 19 and a 1917 Pierce-Arrow Model 48 parked inside. David's brother Dayne helped out, too, as well as Matt Lynch for a while. We had a lot of chairs and tables for folks to sit down at and most of the Peerless reference works I have. We had some posters of the 1st Annual Peerless Meet....and some banners showing the 1932 Peerless V-16 Prototype.

The booth was at the Orange Field at Hershey (OBM 2,3,4) right next to the NW point of the big Car Corral area, so close you could have reached several of its cars with a wet sock tossed out of our 30'x30' tent. Did I mention that it rained (9.45" on Thursday and Friday)? Club members and people who should be club members* whom I saw at the booth included:

1. Mark Desch, MN.......................................1931 Custom 8

2. Matt Lynch, NY........................................1931 Custom 8

3. Cengiz and Ata Arsay, Turkey.....................1928 6-80

4. Gord and Fannie Linkletter, Canada..............1931 Master Eight Sport Coupe

5. Alex Watt, CA..........................................an early car

6. Dave Longstreth..................................... considering purchasing an early Peerless

7. Ralph Cartonio, ME................................... has 10 Peerlesses between '21 and '32

8. Charles Stewart, NY..................................1929 Peerless Sedan

9. Johannus Dagevos, The Netherlands.............1929 6-61 Sedan

10. Mike Ciobanu, NY......................................1927 6-90 Roadster (from Myron Sterner Collection)

11. Hans Peter Nielsen, Denmark.......................1917 Mod. 56 Touring Car(I originally thought to be in Sweden), 1925 8-67 7-P Sedan(1st year equipoised V-8)

12. Dave Noran, PA........................................1928 8-69 Boat Tail(1 of 362 8-69s built for 1928)

13. Vince McLaughlin, PA................................1928 Peerless Sedan w/ fitted trunk

14. Davin Reckow(one of the people

from Hagerty Insurance).................................1917 Peerless Speedster(ex-John Hollansworth)

During the Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I had a few breaks from working the booth. I was hoping Club Members Brando and Joanne from Pistorius Restorations would stop by. They didn't, so I walked over to their space in the Green Field Friday after 5:00, and had a nice 15-minute chat(ducked into 2 other booths on the way for 60 seconds and the Hyman Classic Cars area for 2 minutes). Their 1931 Peerless Master 8 Sedan had just been sold, so they didn't bring it to Hershey.

I heard from two visitors on Wednesday that there was a 1925 Peerless on the west end of the Orange Field, on a little strip of car corral extending that way. I went over on Thursday, but that 10-minute walk proved fruitless, as it was already gone. Later, someone from Poland visited the Peerless Club booth and said it was John Whitley's Model 8-67 Sedan that had been on ebay for $39,000 this spring, and that he bought it and was shipping it home(no idea what it went for). I don't have the new owners name yet. My other excursions to the flea market were to the AACA souvenir tent, the AACA breakfast tent, the booth across from us and the one to the south of us. Didn't see any Peerless parts or literature for sale, but I only went in 7 or 8 booths.

There was someone with a 1909-1911 walnut Peerless Coil Box for sale on ebay a week earlier. It turned out that the guy with the booth across from us had it and someone came by to see if it was the same unit the Peerless in our tent had, after he had bought it (it was). So, there was at least one Peerless part out there.

----Jeff

*Really, I cannot imagine having a Peerless and not being a PMCC Member. Even if you're a museum and have 20 marques represented. Even if your Peerless isn't restored. That would be like buying a new jet to fly somewhere and refusing to land because all the airports charge a landing fee.

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Peerless Motor Car Club President Richard Lichtfeld and Event Chair David Baird have determined that the 3rd Annual Peerless Meet will be......JUNE 12th-14th, 2015. To be based around the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum of Cleveland. I sent some letters out suggesting this would be in 2016, but I have heard that it will be in 2015, after all. The 2nd Annual PMCC Meet will be in the Madison, WI area in 2014.

Like 2013.........this will be very much a joint meet: all of the car companies based in Cleveland, their cars and their fans will be invited. Eighty companies started in Cleveland --- both major and minor. Some of these were:

  • Winton
  • Baker
  • White
  • Stearns (and Stearns-Knight)
  • Peerless
  • Jordan
  • Chandler (and Cleveland)
  • Rollin
  • Royal Tourist
  • Hal Twelve
  • Hoffman
  • Rauch & Lang
  • Gabriel
  • Templar

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I got to see a proof copy of the PEERLESS CO-OPERATOR magazine two weeks ago, and it looks to be a great one. Issue No. 3 has a story regarding the Peerless V-16 prototype written by Derek Moore, the Curator of Transportation History at the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum. This issue also has extensive tellings-of-the-tale of our PMCC First Annual Meet in beautiful SW Michigan. We even had one of our Hawaiian correspondents write of their experiences there!

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Notice to owners of Peerless automobiles: we have established the dates for our annual Peerless meets. September 4th-6th, 2014, New Glarus, Wis. Applications will be in our next Co-Operator

The National Peerless Meet for 2015 is June 12th-14th in Cleveland, Ohio. The Northern Ohio Chapter AACA along with the Crawford Automobile & Aviation Museum and the Peerless Automobile Club will be assembling a gathering of Cleveland built automobiles. There were 75 different manufacturers of automobiles in Cleveland. This should be a very interesting meet.

Put these on your calendar. RHL

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Welcome to the Western Development Museum of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan for joining the Peerless Motor Car Club recently. They not only have in excess of 100 vehicles in their collection, but have what, in essence, is a new 1912 Peerless Limousine.

Sounds like a great excuse for a road trip! I'll bet that not 1% of the "D.F.ers" (AACA Discussion Forum users) have been there. If you don't have gas money to visit the museum...please travel to: www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peerless. Wikipedia has a great photo of this 1912 Peerless...plus a 1911, a 1917 & a 1931.

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The museum has 140,000 sq. ft. with 200 cars & 80 steam engines according to one newspaper article. I've never seen a list of the other cars, but know they have a 1909 Brush, 1918 McLaughlin-Buick, 1926 Derby, 1928 Model "A" Phaeton, 1930 Packard, 1931 LaSalle Cabriolet and a 1941 Ford RCAF Staff Car.

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The PMCC is having a booth to promote the Peerless car and the club at the Bakersfield Swap Meet today and tomorrow. David Baird and I met a few Peerless owners, like Con Fletcher of Colorado(1918 Model 56 Limousine) and Mike Yeakel of Washington(1905 Type 11, 40 h.p., 4-Pass. Touring) while working at the booth. Bakersfield is a great pre-war event with a good amount of brass cars and parts. We brought an "ought-nine" Peerless, placed behind the booth, and were just mobbed with people wanting to look at it, just like at Hershey.

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Time to start planning for the Peerless Motor Car Club 2nd Annual Meet September 4th, 5th, and 6th in New Glarus, Wisconsin. The Peerless community would like everyone who has a Peerless, is interested in the Peerless Motor Car Company, or who is a PMCC member to attend.

Please bring your Peerless no matter the condition or year if possible!! One of the attractions this year is that we're holding the meet in conjunction with an antique aircraft Fly-In; another is we're going to the Swiss village of New Glarus in a nice rural area with a couple days of touring.

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The latest edition of The Peerless Co-Operator magazine has hit the presses.

;)Can't buy it at news-stands!;)

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Peerless Motor Car Club Membership and Events Chairman David Baird passed away September 16th.

His contributions to the club will be greatly missed.

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The latest edition of The Peerless Co-Operator magazine has hit the presses.

;)Can't buy it at news-stands!;)

The Peerless booth will be manned by Ralph Cartino at Hershey next week. Same location as last year.

RHL

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Great to hear, Richard!!

Both space with Ralph Cartonio, who may have a lot of Peerless parts: Orange Field, OBM 2, 3, 4

...about as far east as you can get in the Orange Field, west of the Giant Center Arena

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Anyone reading this please pipe in about your experiences at Hershey, 2014 if you made it there. If you saw any Peerlesses(like the '29 Six-81 Sedan Pistorius Restorations has FS), Peerless parts, or went to the Peerless Booth --- it would be great to hear. I wasn't able to go this year.

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Anyone reading this please pipe in about your experiences at Hershey, 2014 if you made it there. If you saw any Peerlesses(like the '29 Six-81 Sedan Pistorius Restorations has FS), Peerless parts, or went to the Peerless Booth --- it would be great to hear. I wasn't able to go this year.

I was told that no one was at the Peerless booth. Don't know what happened to Ralph. RHL

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Richard,

I hope Ralph's O.K.

Sorry I wasn't able to go. I heard that the Hershey Swap Meet days had 8 1/2 inches less rain than last year, too. I was having fantasies about sitting down in a chair and not having my shoes in three inches of water, seeing the AACA Museum, and maybe walking the Swap Meet for a couple of hours. The real tragedy, of course, is that David Baird passed away. Just before his health got worse, he was talking about his dreams to get an early Peerless, a 1903, that could be driven in the London-To-Brighton Run.

Jeff

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Joanne,

Great to see the photos of David Baird's Model "19" 1909 -- Malcolm Barber's Model "F" 1903 -- John Price's "Green Dragon" 1904 -- the Western Development Museum's essentially-new Model "48-Six" 1912 -- the green Model "56" Cloverleaf Roadster 1917 John Hollansworth restored -- the red Model "6-90" 1927 you and Brando restored -- Ele Chesney's "Custom Eight" 1930 -- and one of the last Peerlesses, the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum's "XD-31" V-16 on the "History of Peerless" section of the site.

Do you know anything about the photo of the 1929 Model "8-125" 7-Passenger Sedan with the smiling gentleman and the 4 women dressed as Athenians with Olympic torches? I was curious if you knew the occasion in which it was taken.

Thanks,

Jeff

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