trini Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 For a 1928 Dodge Brothers Senior 4 door. I am looking for a rim. The tyre size on the rim says 600/650 x 19 but the actual measurement is 21 inches diameter from lip to lip and 4 and a 1/4 inches wide from lip to lip. Should be in decent condition. Please reply to hsahu@tcn.net or phone 905 889 0621. I am in Toronto Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wood or wire wheel?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wood or wire wheel??wood wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 wood wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I imagine that they will be 12 spokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest garthmac Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If you are not in a huge hurry I may have one. Have a large lot of rims. I'm assuming it is a split rim, flat across inner edge or ribbed. Wpg. Believe it or not still lots of snow here--can't get in to building they are in, 5ft snow drifts....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Front or rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Yes Sir, all 12 wood .pokes wheel . The front and back rims are all the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Front and rear are all the same ,mate. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Hi garthmac , the wheels are all 12 spokes wood .back and front rims are all the same. Watch out for the Red River.I have friends in Winnipeg. All professors at the U of M . They keep me abreast. Today is April 18 in Toronto and the temperature is 18 degrees centigrade , tomorrow will be 14. Cheers and have a nice day. I will keep in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Hi kerser31, all wheels are wood spokes and same size. I stand corrected if I may say only the senior for the years 1928 and 29 use the 600/650 19 tyers. It has the big 6 under the bonnet, luxuriously appointed too. Dual reading gas gage .,Waltham 8 day clock and trip meter long stem hanging downwards and uses a UX-3 carby. I would love to email pictures but this 77 year old grease monkey is struggling to manipulate this machine . I would rather choose to change a double disc clutch on a tandem Freight liner. Love to hear from you. My email is hsahu@tcn.net Cheers and have nice day. Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Front hubs are usually different than the rear hubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest garthmac Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Hi garthmac , the wheels are all 12 spokes wood .back and front rims are all the same. Watch out for the Red River.I have friends in Winnipeg. All professors at the U of M . They keep me abreast. Today is April 18 in Toronto and the temperature is 18 degrees centigrade , tomorrow will be 14. Cheers and have a nice day. I will keep in touch.Just to advise I checked in one shed with no luck, found two solid 21" rims and a number of larger ones. Found some large Dodge wheels. Had to dig through a snow bank to get in. I will check further in two other locations. Snow is causing some problems but is melting slowly. Watching the river carefully as my farm is on the river. Will let you know in the next few days. Garth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Hi garthmac , the wheels are all 12 spokes wood .back and front rims are all the same. Watch out for the Red River.I have friends in Winnipeg. All professors at the U of M . They keep me abreast. Today is April 18 in Toronto and the temperature is 18 degrees centigrade , tomorrow will be 14. Cheers and have a nice day. I will keep in touch.Front and rear hubs are different. Are you simply looking for the outer band? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 Front and rear hubs are different. Are you simply looking for the outer band?Hi Keiser31, the hubs are different but the brakes drums and the spokes, fellows and rims are the same. I am looking for the outer rim. I see in the pictures the wheels are similar to mine and the blue outer rim looks right except it may be for a 500/550 tyre. 4 inches wide and has 4 niches for the lug bolts. The one I am looking for measures 4 and a 1/2 ins wide and has 6 niches to carry 6 lug bolts. Thank you very much for your reply and insight. One question I like to ask is the brakes shoes arrangement. There are 4 short linings and 4 long linings. On later cars the primary shoes is the front and the secondary at the back. But this brake shoes is anchored at the lower end on an eccentric pin and a circular adjuster at he top. Why the need for primary? Where to position the shorter lining? Are all the shorter linings placed at the rear drums? Or in a drum one short one at back and long one in front and repeat on all 4 wheels? I do not have any instruction manual. Cheers and have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 Hi garthmac, thank you for the reply. The rim I am looking for is 4 and 1/2 inches wide from outside lip to lip and 21 inches across lip to lip. The blue one in the picture looks nice. Wish it is what I need. Cheers and have a nice day. Trini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Hi Keiser31, the hubs are different but the brakes drums and the spokes, fellows and rims are the same. I am looking for the outer rim. I see in the pictures the wheels are similar to mine and the blue outer rim looks right except it may be for a 500/550 tyre. 4 inches wide and has 4 niches for the lug bolts. The one I am looking for measures 4 and a 1/2 ins wide and has 6 niches to carry 6 lug bolts. Thank you very much for your reply and insight. One question I like to ask is the brakes shoes arrangement. There are 4 short linings and 4 long linings. On later cars the primary shoes is the front and the secondary at the back. But this brake shoes is anchored at the lower end on an eccentric pin and a circular adjuster at he top. Why the need for primary? Where to position the shorter lining? Are all the shorter linings placed at the rear drums? Or in a drum one short one at back and long one in front and repeat on all 4 wheels? I do not have any instruction manual. Cheers and have a nice day.The front shoe in each drum is always the "primary" shoe. The length of the lining does not change that. The front shoe in each drum should be the short lining. The lower pin is the pivot point and should be correct prior to adjusting the top pin/eccentric. Here is some information that may help you out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Good morning keiser31, Thank you for the information, very reassuring . My next step is rebuilding the master cylinder. It is the box type 4 X 4 x 3 inches box, with the barrel inside. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Just to make a clarification....the 1931 DB 19" steel band/rim will not work on your car as they have four attachment points on the '31s...not six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Hi keiser31 , as long as the rim is 4 and 1/2 inches wide I can always adjust the slots ( make it 6) to accommodate the cleats that goes over the log bolts taking into consideration the position of the valve stem. The fellow has the 6 depression to accommodate the cleats. I already have a 4 inches wide one as a spare but prefer to have things as near as original. Do you have a parts diagram of the master cylinder brakes parts ? It is the 4 inch square box type with the cylinder inside it. Cheers and have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I do not have the brake master cylinder information for the 1928. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trini Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 cheers. trini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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