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Is it possible to identify a Pre-1930's car with only the frame? If so how?


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Me and my friends found a old car possibly a Ford Model T in the woods by my house, and we were just wondering how to identify it for sure? The problem is we just found the bare frame of the car and various parts, all of them are rusted and scattered. We want to know if anything is notable and or worth something? Any help, even the smallest bit would be appreciated. Thank you!

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Me and my friends found a old car possibly a Ford Model T in the woods by my house, and we were just wondering how to identify it for sure? The problem is we just found the bare frame of the car and various parts, all of them are rusted and scattered. We want to know if anything is notable and or worth something? Any help, even the smallest bit would be appreciated. Thank you!

Model T Fords and Model A Fords have front and rear transverse springs. Most other cars had springs that are parallel to the frame rails. Here is a typical early Ford frame. If you are having trouble posting photos here, send them to me and I will post them for you here. John

keiser31@charter.net

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Guest Spinster

I have an old ford frame, was modified to be a fishing boat trailer.  Got the boat home, off the trailer, and what a surprise!  Can someone help? Thanks

Frame length = 87"

Frame width = 23 1/2"

Outside spindle to outside spindle = 57 1/2"

 

 

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Guest BoxerMama16

Hi everyone. We have two chassies and are having a hard time indentifying them. The yellow one has wooden spokes. 

 

Any info would be great. :)

 

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The yellow frame appears to be a very early luxury car or possibly a truck frame. No front brakes puts it before 1923. Could be pre WW1. The wheels look too spindley for a truck now that I think about it. That rear axle with the rod clamped to it suggests a certain car but I can't remember which.

 

The other is a truck frame probably from the fifties.

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The rusty frame looks a lot like a large car that had some Buffalo wire wheels on it. It looks similar to 1929 Chrysler the way it has that style of bumper mounts and cross bar in front. It IS NOT a 1929 Chrysler frame, but similar.

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6 minutes ago, Curti said:

The rusty frame has, what looks to be knock-offs on the rear. If there is an aluminum plate in the center of one, It may say Auburn.  The front brake drum looks to be 28-30 Auburn. 

It has those hubs on the front, too. It actually looks a lot like the 1929 LaSalle front end and hubs I used to have.

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3 hours ago, mickthecat said:

The yellow thing is a Stanley steamer, I'm guessing mid-teens. Note how the ring gear is smack dab in the middle of the rear axle, and the full elliptical springs on the back. Also note the solid cross members - there's nowhere to put a transmission or driveshaft. Stanleys didn't use them. The engine attaches directly to the rear axle housing - it looks like it might still be there.  A very nice find.

 

Not disputing what you say but does a Stanley have a 'clutch' pedal?

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Stanley had a pedal for the steam cutoff and for the brakes. The engine was built into the rear axle and had an oval shaped base as shown in the picture. There was a reciprocating rod that came off the rear axle and drove pumps for water, fuel, and oil. It may be a Stanley from the early 20s. The first Stanleys had full elliptic springs all around and hickory reaches between the front and rear axle.

 

They reversed by adjusting the steam valves on the engine to make it run backwards so yes, you had the same power and speed in reverse if you wanted it.

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On 3/27/2017 at 4:10 PM, mickthecat said:

The yellow thing is a Stanley steamer, I'm guessing mid-teens. Note how the ring gear is smack dab in the middle of the rear axle, and the full elliptical springs on the back. Also note the solid cross members - there's nowhere to put a transmission or driveshaft. Stanleys didn't use them. The engine attaches directly to the rear axle housing - it looks like it might still be there.  A very nice find.

 

I won't lie.... if that Stanley chassis was mine... I'd be building one heck of a "Steam Speedster" :)

 

Very nice find indeed.

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45 minutes ago, zipdang said:

Seems like the original poster here has been hijhacked several times! Hope he comes back...

A few of us tried to help the original poster out, but he never returned.

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On 5/26/2019 at 9:31 PM, Bigmo said:

This frame was on my property when I bought it. Does anyone know what it is 

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Looks similar to a maxwell but the rear sections doesn't quite look right. Do you happen to still have this frame? I'm looking for one for a project of mine and this looks like it may work. 

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On 3/27/2017 at 2:37 PM, Guest BoxerMama16 said:

Hi everyone. We have two chassies and are having a hard time indentifying them. The yellow one has wooden spokes. 

 

Any info would be great. :)

 

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As as already been noted the yellow chassis is for a condensing Stanley.  It is probably a Model 735 from the the late teens.  

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