cahartley Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 ^ WOW.......just.......WOW.......:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 A custom coach made to look like a modern Packard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gelinas (XP-300) Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Our 1958 Cadillac Eureka Flower Car - magnificently restored by Restorer32 - AACA Senior Car winner 2005 at Hershey.Stunning just stunning.Wow, wow and more wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gelinas (XP-300) Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) A custom coach made to look like a modern Packard?What is this based on? Edited March 22, 2014 by xp-300 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superior1980 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I am the owner of the "modern" Packard shown here. I have spent the past hour typing and retyping a brief history of both this car and of the company that built it, but these forums refuse to accept my post, so I give up. Short answer, it is based on a 1985 Buick Riviera. Longer version, follow this link....http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/bayliff/bayliff.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Yaros Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 ^ Guess that proves the first three letter of funeral........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Yaros Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 ^ Guess that proves the first three letter of funeral........ Per the web site where I found the pic the woman is the photog's mother. She is a cancer survivor and has her pic taken in the casket alongside the hearse every birthday. Her and her son build the casket.In other words, she has a healthy outlook on life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 If any of you are feeling ambitious, here's an opportunity for you:http://northernwi.craigslist.org/cto/4375219815.htmlThe snow should be melted in northern Wisconsin by July! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 It can be returned to its former glory just like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superior1980 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Its not a hearse, but its close. If we're going to talk about ambitious restoration projects, this is in my garage awaiting my attention (and money)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Superior, I have no doubt that will be a handsome unit one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 If anybody wants to do that 36 Buick I can turn them on to a complete rolling chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 If anybody wants to do that 36 Buick I can turn them on to a complete rolling chassis.The 36 is an Oldsmobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Of course it's a Buick. I looked at it too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONTIAC1953 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 As much as I admire all of the intricate cast and carved embellishments on these, I really have to applaud the sheet metal benders who crafted that beautiful roof on this '56: that is a 1954 Cadillac, not a 1956. Charles Coker, 1953 Pontiac tech advisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Yes, Charles, I corrected my mistake in post 214. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prs519 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Was this the inspiration for the American Underslung, perhaps? This post is referring to the first Abe Lincoln coach on page one. Edited March 31, 2014 by prs519 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Depending upon your age when you start this project, you might just make it in time to get some use out of this '40 Ford hearse:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Other-na-1940-ford-hearse-very-rare-project-/171310494632?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27e2e6b3a8&item=171310494632&pt=US_Cars_Truckshttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ev4AAOxy7nNTWXu~/$_57.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Another angle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 The Ford was modified by the Shop of Siebert, a company that started out in 1853 making buggies. They shifted their focus in the 1880's to commercial vehicles including funeral wagons. They used Fords exclusively from the mid teens all the way into the 60's. I think they "closed shop" in 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tin_indian Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 My '54 Pontiac built by Superior. Number 206 of 207 that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Nice looking Pontiac, tin. Good proportions and simple, clean lines. Do you see a paint job for it in the future, or are you going to keep it as is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tin_indian Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Nice looking Pontiac, tin. Good proportions and simple, clean lines. Do you see a paint job for it in the future, or are you going to keep it as is?Thanks, at this point in time there is no real plan to paint it. I know the paint is shoddy, but the old saying applies, "they're only original once" I've had many many people say not to paint it coz of the patina it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I guess that I wouldn't feel the need to paint it, either. I don't think that it looks "shoddy" at all. The original paint simply looks like it has been graced by time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 1935 Dodge Humpback Red Cross Truck. Get better pictures when I get it out of storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 1934 Dodge Miller Hearse waiting for restoration. Get better pictures when I get it out of storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 My '54 Pontiac built by Superior. Number 206 of 207 that year.Your landau bars are mounted upside down. Theround "bump" in the center is always up. If the top were actually to fold with the landaus mounted as they are the folded irons would stick out behind the body. A commonly seen mistake on many antiques and one of my pet peeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evilstretch Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) The landau bars are 100% correct the way they are.Your landau bars are mounted upside down. Theround "bump" in the center is always up. If the top were actually to fold with the landaus mounted as they are the folded irons would stick out behind the body. A commonly seen mistake on many antiques and one of my pet peeves. Edited August 9, 2014 by Evilstretch (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evilstretch Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 These are my '55 series 75 limo and '55 Superior hearse with landau bars correctly fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 914Driver Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 My wife's grandmother had a 1936 LaSalle six wheel hears on her farm for years, Crazy Uncle sold it for beer money..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dep5 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Source of photo and location unknown to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 A bad day gone really bad....<noscript></noscript> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Coulda been worse....the lid stayed on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Sorry, your landaus are wrong. Think about it. If they were real folding landaus the pivot point would be in the middle of the round "knob" and they would extend out past the back of the body if actually folded. Find a factory pic and prove me wrong and I will happily admit defeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Not saying the landaus weren't installed that way at the factory. A review of vintage hearse pictures shows them both ways but functionally speaking, if they were real they would have to be installed with the bump in the center facing up. And, after all, aren't they meant to mimic a convertible top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 A true functioning landau top looks like this:A couple of examples incorrectly placed imitation landau bars borrowed from the Friends of the Professional Car Society:blatantly obvious on this coach: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard Don Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 A custom coach made to look like a modern Packard?This is one of the last Bayliff-Packard vehicles and an online slide show is available and also an article with more details, all of which were sent to me by the former owner. Apparently two were built on special order and Bayliff, at the time, owned the Packard name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 60crown Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) Your landau bars are mounted upside down. Theround "bump" in the center is always up. If the top were actually to fold with the landaus mounted as they are the folded irons would stick out behind the body. A commonly seen mistake on many antiques and one of my pet peeves.Sorry, your landaus are wrong. Think about it. If they were real folding landaus the pivot point would be in the middle of the round "knob" and they would extend out past the back of the body if actually folded. Find a factory pic and prove me wrong and I will happily admit defeat!Not saying the landaus weren't installed that way at the factory. A review of vintage hearse pictures shows them both ways but functionally speaking, if they were real they would have to be installed with the bump in the center facing up. And, after all, aren't they meant to mimic a convertible top?Hearses are NOT convertibles. Regardless of the amount of life experiences Restorer32 has, none of them obviously have been first hand with hearses. A hearse's landau irons were never meant to mimic those on a convertible top - ever. Nor have there been working, folding landau irons on hearse - ever. These were dignified design cues meant to swoop from upper window frame gracefully downward. When the center section is not balanced symmetrically, the bulk goes BELOW center line without exception. Doing so not only appear more aesthetically balanced but more importantly does not break eye's sweeping downward gaze when viewing, as designers intended.[There is ONE exception; which is not on a hearse (but related). When some formal Series 75 received short stubby non-working landau irons on C pillar, then yes, the bulk of center section points upward. Those are meant to mimic a convertible. Again, not a hearse.]Do you think Meteor would have used this early (rare) prewer landau photographed in front of their own factory for period advertising with an upside down landau? Not a chance.Or were you asking for factory printed lit?Or would you prefer I continue with factory photos?If this hasn't been enough, you can try picking up any 1 of about 18 books on professional cars that have been published since 1973. Or you can continue assuming every landau iron ever put on by (minimum) 10 coach builders has been "incorrect". Edited August 17, 2014 by R W Burgess (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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