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Bill Boudway

One Time Registration, NY State

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Bill,

Louisiana has had this concept in place for as long as I can remember. It sure makes life easy, and we really appreciate the convenience and the simplicity.

I hope it is approved for New York, as well as other states.

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That would be a great thing to see passed. Marty, any ideas how many other states have similar laws? The more states that pass such legislation, the easier it gets to get more states to pass similar legislation.

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Virginia does it on both state-issued antique plates or year-of-manufacture plates, though the YOM can be registered as an annual renewal if owner so desires. Why anyone would, I can't figure out.

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I would like to see New York wave the annual vehicle inspection for historic vehicles. If not 25 year old cars, how about at the very least cars which are 100 years old !

There's not much to inspect on a 100 year old car anyway, and considering how much they are driven, why force an owner to submit to an inspection when the guys doing the inspection have no clue as what they are looking at?

--Scott

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I would like to see New York wave the annual vehicle inspection for historic vehicles. If not 25 year old cars, how about at the very least cars which are 100 years old !

There's not much to inspect on a 100 year old car anyway, and considering how much they are driven, why force an owner to submit to an inspection when the guys doing the inspection have no clue as what they are looking at?

--Scott

The state is looking for $10

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I've been running with a 10 day temporary NYS inspection sticker for the past 7 years.

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That reason is that the One-Time registration in Virginia places restrictions on the car's use. Although the restrictions are fairly mild and not rigorously enforced, they are still the LAW and we all must decide if we are law-abiding citizens or choose to act outside the law (outlaws).

Virginia requires that you sign a statement that you have another "legally annual licensed vehicle" to have one time antique tags on your antique vehicles. As such, legally I can drive a different one of my antique cars each day to keep them in good operating condition. Since I drive very few miles, I never go over the mileage limit imposed on these cars.

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I've been running with a 10 day temporary NYS inspection sticker for the past 7 years.

that's 100 buck fine if you get caught and also have to lie on the registration renewal form.

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that's 100 buck fine if you get caught and also have to lie on the registration renewal form.

I haven't been challenged as of yet for lack of inspection. Although if I hit a registration checkpoint it may be a different story. Also they don't ask for the inspection number on the registration anymore so registration is easy. When I went to get my '35 Plymouth inspected they refuse to pass it because the vacuum wiper didn't work. This car will never see rain and a replacement is scarce so what's the point. I'll explain it to the cop if I get stopped. And the Model T? Check the brakes? Oh, you mean brake.. I do get my more modern vehicle (1949) inspected.

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There's not much to inspect on a 100 year old car anyway, and considering how much they are driven, why force an owner to submit to an inspection when the guys doing the inspection have no clue as what they are looking at? --Scott

Agree. With one of my vehicles, the sheriff came out to inspect it and just shrugged his shoulders and called for another person to come out and look at it. The second sheriff just signed the form as I knew more about the vehicle than he did. Humor on the form was things like high and low beams.... I asked if you wanted me to turn the kerosene lights up or down?? The guy was a good guy with good humor.

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Actually if you renew your old cars online now in NY state it has to have a current inspection. I let one lapse as it hadn't been driven in a year or two. When I went to reregister it because the registration was about to expire it wouldn't let me register it. I had to have it inspected. After getting it inspected which would mean driving it out of registration, the computer knew it had been inspected and I was able to reregister it.

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Aubunseeker, I've been renewing by mail and several years ago they stopped asking for the inspection number on the form. As you can see in the photo I get the registration every year. I do this for 3 cars. Maybe the computer hasn't caught up to me yet.

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I know Ted but they haven't asked for the inspection numbers on the renewal forms in quite some time.

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Maybe the computer hasn't caught up to me yet.

Advertising that fact on a web site does not do you any favors!;)

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I'm not telling anyone to follow my example. Sometimes my vehicles don't get inspected on time due to mechanical problems where they don't get to the station on time to get inspected. Some don't make it down for several months or even years such as my Model A. But I keep the Registration current so I don't have a problem with the DMV. So far I haven't had any problems.

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Is it possible to register a vehicle --- an antique vehicle --- in another state?

I recall that college atudents who typically have driver's licenses from other states can buy a car and register it in New York, even though they do not actually live in New York. I think all they need is a New York address.

Several states do not have vehicle inspections for antiques, some like North Carolina are exempt if a car is 35 years old or more. So would a state like North Carolina issue a registration for a car when the owner doesn't actually live in North Carolina?

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if they do ny wouldn't considered it legally registered

In a literal sense, probably, but the point is that out-of-state cars are in any given state all the time. If I move to North Carolina or Minnesota, I think I can keep my NY plates for about as long as I want and same for coming to NY. I mean, college students do that for four years and more.

I think it may be one of those things that it's only illegal if you get caught. But how are you going to get caught? A student who graduated a year ago and is still renting from me has a Wisconsin driver's license but bought a Mini Cooper in NY with NY registration. If he gets pulled over, what law is he breaking? New York issued the registration in full knowledge that he lived in another state!

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They would do it for the same reason I keep my 1966 on annual plates in Virginia and get it inspected every year.

That reason is that the One-Time registration in Virginia places restrictions on the car's use. Although the restrictions are fairly mild and not rigorously enforced, they are still the LAW and we all must decide if we are law-abiding citizens or choose to act outside the law (outlaws).

In order to get the One-Time Registration, you must sign an affidavit that you understand and will abide by those restrictions as well as prove that you have a Normal-Use car in addition to the restricted-use car.

That part of the last (2007) legislation never made sense to me as the DMV has all that info in their data base. Unless you are driving a company car, odds are you own a vehicle registered for normal use. They sure don't have any problems keeping up with my license renewals and personal property taxes.

Once you dug far enough into that bill to see the financial projections you'd see it was never about getting questionable antique plates off the roads. It was about the possibility of raising $9 million in additional revenue. I still haven't forgiven the legislator who introduced all that nonsense, and I have told him several times he does not represent my interests in Richmond and as long as I live in the 14th House District, I will campaign and vote for anyone who challenges his seat.

I well remember the session we had with him, taxing authorities, and law enforcement in Lynchburg. A Lynchburg Region member asked a young State Trooper exactly how he planned to enforce the new statute. The Trooper pointed to the legislator and the state tax department rep and said "When these gentlemen tell me how to do it". And neither of those gentlemen said a word.

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Either you have to live here or sign a residency agreement stating you will garage it here 6 months out of the year (a provision created for dual residents). Its a sworn affidavit that if used for false purposes could result in a felony charge.

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Here being NC...left that part out..oops. Let me go on to say that a NC driver license or ID card is required upon registration of a vehicle here in the State. If you have an out of state driver license or ID card, then it is required that you fill out the residency agreement. Too many people were making up addresses here in NC to avoid high registration and insurance fees in other parts of the Country.

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