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Thanks again Kevin. That actually makes it really clear.

I went out but the old door cards are gone. What the upholsterer has done is on the card, cut a reallylarge circular hole for the window winder and a tiny hole for the door lock....I can't win :(.....I may have to support the window winder hole somehow.

 

Oh well....keep plodding along.

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Will be really interested how you get on. I am still probably a couple of weeks away from putting this into practice for myself. I have been giving it a lot of thought, but it is the doing that counts.

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Ian

I guess there are a few IFs here, with regards to the springs being through the backing card

 

If you have leather then the spring resting on the leather is unlikely to show through the leather, and cause any unsightly ring around the door handle.

If you have material lining then the spring against the material would likely show through the material as a prominent ring around the handle.

If you have round etruchions then you might not see any ring, depending on the diameter of the etruchion

If you have rectangular etruchions as I do then then you would likely see some of the ring  either side of the etruchion sides.

Kevin

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On 9/17/2013 at 5:00 PM, 1936 D2 said:

My 1936 car was an un-molested original when I first got it in 1983. (I am the third owner and know the full owner history). The car's top did not have a gasket that was apparent on the outside. The original application for the steel insert top on the '36 was very much like Ian showed in post #445. It has an inner simple rubber gasket and then the top seam was filled with a flowing sealer. The final effect was that the sealed area was either flat with the top surfaces or actually dipped inward just a bit. The over all idea being that water would flow off the top and not get backed up behind a thicker gasket that was sticking up from the surface area.

So, in other words, I do not think that the gasket style that "knobless" showed is correct for the later insert tops like the '36's steel insert top. That thicker gasket style MAY have been associated with the prior cloth insert tops (1935 and earlier - and also the 1936 7 passenger sedan "Limo") but I have no first hand knowledge of that fact.

(Sorry for the hi-jack Ian).

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--- 1936 Steel Insert Top Sealer. --- 1936 Cloth Insert Top Gasket.

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30 minutes ago, rageracing said:

I was wondering what are you going to use for dust shield between the trans and the top crossmember.  Need to get something for mine 

Cant picture what your talking about?  A top” dust shield, I have the bottom one, 

 

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On 5/23/2021 at 7:05 AM, Bullfrog_eng said:

Had a phone call from a mate who misunderstood what I meant (it happens a lot!!!).

This may help. This is the way I THINK it goes. And again, if anyone can confirm or otherwise, that would be appreciated.

 

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Spring goes behind esconshion “ and against fabric

 

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1 minute ago, rageracing said:

They each have a ring where it would have centered on 

Yes, correct two piece top cover, you have both pieces? Then you just missing the rubber boot, cup,,,

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17 minutes ago, knobless said:

Yes, correct two piece top cover, you have both pieces? Then you just missing the rubber boot, cup,,,

Not sure what you mean by two piece top cover.  Both rings looked to be stamped into the trans and crossmember.  The top of the trans is two pieces if that’s what you mean.  Anywhere to source the rubber boot and cups?  Thanks! 

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11 hours ago, rageracing said:

Not sure what you mean by two piece top cover.  Both rings looked to be stamped into the trans and crossmember.  The top of the trans is two pieces if that’s what you mean.  Anywhere to source the rubber boot and cups?  Thanks! 

Smaller cover piece is under the dust it looks in your picture, as for other dust covers, there is none, mines been broken down from original, and going back the same as for boot, you have 2 small one that goes onto shifter, and interior “ Finish” boot that goes over interior carpet, as for source, Andy Bernbaum,  maybe moparpro ?

 

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I used a short length of radiator hose which had an ID large enough to fit over the locating rings. Seems to do the job of keeping gunk out of the transmission and while radiator hose is not designed for oil/gear lube contact seems to be holding up okay for this last twenty years.

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4 hours ago, ply33 said:

I used a short length of radiator hose which had an ID large enough to fit over the locating rings. Seems to do the job of keeping gunk out of the transmission and while radiator hose is not designed for oil/gear lube contact seems to be holding up okay for this last twenty years.

Looking for throw out bearing spring, any sources?

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Sometimes the remedy is only a question away, dust shield for trans, my option/ remedy/ product,  first pictures of seal, 3rd photo seal “ sandwiched” between trans and crossmember with shift bar accesss,,,,making them for all interested,,,,also waterproof”””

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27 minutes ago, knobless said:

Sometimes the remedy is only a question away, dust shield for trans, my option/ remedy/ product,  first pictures of seal, 3rd photo seal “ sandwiched” between trans and crossmember with shift bar accesss,,,,making them for all interested,,,,

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I’ll buy 2 if you have them, my 33 pickup needs one too.

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Sorry I've been off the forum for a while, a lot of things going on as well as leading up to the end of financial year.

We run a small internet business from home as well as working which has exploded during Corona so I've had to get another storage shed built.

I'm not building it but wiring, finishing and painting all takes a long time.

here's a few shots. Its basically double the floor space of the shed next to it.

For those that love a bit of detail........notice the dog kennel in the forth photo.....he has his own deck and porch light.

This weekend coming I'll be back on the Dodge, I promise !

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Sorry to hear of your Mom passing Ian, love the added carpentry handy work, work has slowed to a crawl on mine, also, very busy with working, just hit the big “ 65” but still pushing always need more cash for the hobby, Hoping all else is well, keep at it, you have passed on a lot of knowledge with your restoration Thread, Thank you!

 

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Thanks Steve,

Still sorting out Estate items which will go on for another 12 months I think.

I will get the car finished.....mines now not about money.....everything has been paid for, but more so time.....never enough !!

Sometimes I get home after work and I'm absolutely buggered.....I think I'm wearing out.

I'll be back to the car this week so still pushing along.

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