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1951 Buick

2013 BCA National Meet, South Bend, Indiana

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What a great picture!!!!!

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I am always excited to attend a national Buick meet and this one was no exception. You never know what will show up. I own a '39 and would like to see a big turn-out but I believe there were only 3 (judged) but I was still very happy to be there.

Like others I am disappointed with some of the things that happened (or did not happen at this meet)

Someone said putting on one of these is a "learning" experience, however, this year was supposed to eliminate the "learning" because the national office was taking care of everything....using their experience from many years of Buick meets plus Cadillac and Packard. This should have been the ultimate experience, without many or all of the problems posted by others.

The Buick Club of America (members, board, and business office) have been working for several years to get to this point. When I was on the board, there was a huge problem developing surrounding National meets. We could not get Chapters to bid on hosting the national meet. The Ames IA (2010) meet only happened because Bill Stoneberg and Rick Young stepped up to the problem. Colorado Springs the previous year turned out to be a very good meet as viewed by the membership but there were many "skeletons in the closet" that were quietly handled. These events lead establishing the National Meet Committee. This group studied the problem, proposed and selected site locations, negotiated with hotels, etc.....to eliminate "reinventing the wheel" every year. You will notice there are now National events established thru 2016. This allows members to do long range planning for future meets they want to attend. The BCA is in a much better planning mode than there were a year before Ames.

Lets hope that Portland is the experience that we expected at South Bend.

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I see Barney' point, and would want to give the National Committee a big thumbs up for this event. I am certain many of the " problems" were unforseeable . No matter how many meets one organizes you can bet something new will come up. This was a enjoyable event and i saw organizers doing what they could address problems.

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I do not believe there is ever an event of any kind that does not have it's problems or as Barney called them skeletons. As long as problems are resolved and do not continue to be issues in upcoming years then it can be said "lessons learned" and move forward to the next. I would urge the national committee to do just that though, to listen, learn, and give us even better in the future.

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I would like to add my too cents.I say this with tongue in cheek.I for the life of me can not figure out why the board can't put the DRIVERS car with the other cars.I myself forgot to find them .The members who drive them hundreds of miles deserve to be seen and heard.I listen to many reasons the big one being (not enough room).Well when the site is selected be sure we are considered. What are we orphans.Do we not pay dues.I don't know what the count for the driven class was but i am sure it was considerable enough to take notice. Again just my opinion.i hope that this is taken by those in charge as constructive criticism,

Frank A Batty

Have a great Buick day

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A Wonderful meet, the Driven cars - mine included were kind of "behind the fence" and a walk to the rest of the meet. I found out that the fence went in only a few weeks ago, long after the layout was set. This stuff happens, and the driven and display cars were invited over to the general field after judging. Hats off to the BCA staff!

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My Prayer,

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE NICE THINGS THE BCA DID THIS PAST WEEKEND, I ENJOYED MY EXPERIENCE, AND COULD TELL OTHERS DID TOO.

I TRUST THEY ALL RETURNED HOME SAFE.

AMEN,

Dale in Indy

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There was a 2-tone, maybe 3-tone 55 4-door car there from Fairbury, IL.

I had a nice talk with the owners. It had just been finished from complete restore the night before.

Seems the owners first met when he was the owner of a like car, so to honor them, their son found a 55 like the one they met in, and restored it for them.

I believe it was the son's first car restore, I believe he has restored farm tractors in the past.

Nice family, GREAT STORY,

Dale in Indy

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reproduction - but beautiful. Not sure what happened to Buick's presence at the National Meet - in the past they have sent cars, etc.

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I thik there were several older woodie wagons, but have not had a chance to check my pictures.

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Dave, as mentioned it was a recreation. But here are some more pics and a description of the car. I must say, it was stunning.

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Hi-

The 3 buick wagons in post # 301 what year are they 1947 or1948 and was there any other woodie wagons? Also the winners list will it be posted on the forum or must we wait for the Oct. Bugle?

Thanks

Al Storrs

Al, they are all 1948s. There was one '50 for sure, maybe others.

I decided to go to the Meet at the last moment. I left home at 4:00 AM Thursday, arriving South Bend 4:PM. I experienced all the good times and all the frustrations that others did. STILL enjoyed myself. Received the third driven award. Met a lot of old friends and a few new ones. Missed others I wanted to meet. For that I am sad.

A wise man, can't remember who, once said ' You can please ALL the people SOME of the time , SOME of the people ALL the time, but never ALL the people ALL the time."

Enjoy your BUICKS.

Ben

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A wise man, can't remember who, once said ' You can please ALL the people SOME of the time , SOME of the people ALL the time, but never ALL the people ALL the time."

President Abraham Lincoln.

This and every show are as fun as you make them for yourself.

I made my choice and had a hell of a good time. Great people, wonderful cars and a couple of sticks on the road that I stepped over rather than tripping on.

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It has taken me nearly 48 hours after getting home to get some time on the computer to take a look here.

I did take time after getting home Monday to send a few thank yous out to folks who helped to make the trip a great one for us.

The children and I had a blast. We did some bonding that we hadn't previously and they are pretty excited about future meets and Buick activities here at home. That said, it was a bit of an odd meet for me. It was the first family trip we didn't have my wife along (I think the rest of not having us here at home was probably the best gift), so that made it strange. We stayed about a mile away from the host hotel, so when the heat was getting to us, we found it a bit awkward as there wasn't much space to sit down in the cool and rest. Granted, except for the first day, we forgot about the hospitality room - I presume it was part of the contracting to throw the Inn at St. Mary's a bone, but to have all the registration, meeting rooms, and indoor swap meet at one end of the complex and the hospitality room at the other helped us to forget about it. The tour to Notre Dame was awkward - we spent $80 for a short bus ride to the campus. Had we gone on our own, we may have had time to fit in a visit to the Studebaker Museum. I remember helping out with parking in Rochester in 2006 - we had a squad of people involved...this year, I was nobody involved with parking at all. I had two cars in the driven lot (and we were the first and for a while the only ones parking there) as well as Wednesday getting the '23 into the display lot, so I know well the angst of folks. The biggest issue for me is that one eventually gets sore feet and having to run back to the car (since we weren't staying on site) to get stuff or put stuff back was a bit of a pain.

I think the biggest thing was the hidden nature of the display lot. Frankly, with the big pine trees, you couldn't even see there were cars there. Once I drove the '23 over beside the Chartreuse Lady on Saturday afternoon, I'm certain more people saw it in the first 20 minutes than had seen it in the previous 72 hours.

In hindsight, walking the driven lot, it occurred to me that it would have been a better place for the swap meet. First of all, those big pines provided a bunch of shade. Secondly, everyone expects a swap meet, so goes asking or looking for it. That would have freed up enough space in the main lot to have the driven and display classes there too. Of course, this brings up a philosophical question - who is the meet for? For each individual taking a self-interested perspective, they will say themselves. However, if the swap meet were moved, yes, they would have had a bit farther to go for washrooms, but it would have been offset with shade and closer proximity to registration and indoor swap areas. It seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me, but I haven't been a swap meet vendor.

A disappointment for me was in forgetting to look at the cars. Basically, I think there was probably half the field that I didn't see (like those '48 woodies). After we had put the '23 on a trailer, a fabulous '27 depot hack came by to get put away also - the original conversion was documented as being done back in 1927. We did have a good chat with the owners, but even encountering that beautiful Buick was merely by chance.

For me, I anticipate planning future meets a bit differently personally. So long as I remember how previous meets went for me, I should be able to set myself up appropriately for future registrations. I am now getting to the point where most of the tours aren't all that important to me (although the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum was fabulous). It is about the people and the cars they drive.

Each meet has some issues. Are they the end of the world? Certainly not. Does everyone think they get the full value for their buck? Certainly not. However, in the scheme of things, we drove two cars over 2000 miles round trip, so the cost of fuel makes the fact that registering a car for $25 for display only pretty much irrelevant. If it is that big a deal to you, then perhaps there are other things you ought to be doing.

I do hope we will see improvements in logistics over the years. Hopefully the National Meet Committee will provide the continuity that should make it easier to take the lessons learned an apply them to future meets. If they were documented, their experiences could also be provided to the chapters hosting regional meets.

Now, with about 4 GB of photos, there's some sorting and editing to do to post a few.

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Dave, as mentioned it was a recreation. But here are some more pics and a description of the car. I must say, it was stunning.

Thanks for the info. I saw a web site on the construction of this car, but can't find it. Your correct it's stunning.

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Thiller,,,THANK YOU got taking the time to spot the string sign I was wearing and introduce yourself.

It was so nice to meet you and 5 others,

Dale in Indy

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You are quite welcome Dale. Had it not been for the sign you were wearing, I suspect we would have simply passed by each other.

I've come to the point where I believe it is the Buick automobile that is the thread that brings us together for events like this, but eventually it is the people we meet that keep us coming back.

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the string sign was a nice touch, how many times do we simply pass each other on the showfield not knowing who they are. Well I now know who you are, thanks to your efforts. Derek the same things go for you, I have read your posts for a long time and never had the chance to meet face to face, it is always a real pleasure

Chuck Kerls

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Thanks for your input Derek...not sure if it is because we are both North of the 49th or that you just know how to lay it out so that I understand your point but I like the way you put it in perspective.

So glad you had that time with the kids, memories are forever...

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Thiller,,,THANK YOU got taking the time to spot the string sign I was wearing and introduce yourself.

It was so nice to meet you and 5 others,

Sorry I did not run across you, Dale.Missed you and several others.

Ben

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Each meet has some issues. Are they the end of the world? Certainly not. Does everyone think they get the full value for their buck? Certainly not. However, in the scheme of things, we drove two cars over 2000 miles round trip, so the cost of fuel makes the fact that registering a car for $25 for display only pretty much irrelevant. If it is that big a deal to you, then perhaps there are other things you ought to be doing.

Derek, I am sure you didn't mean anything by it but in defense of the gentleman who reported the problem of being overshadowed in the parking lot by new iron, that is all he was doing, much the same as you did in some parts of your post. And since I am being a bear about this, I may as well be a grizzly and say I think he had every right to "complain" and deserves, if not a refund, at least an explanation and an apology for the unfortunate problem that occurred. Not to be told by anyone to go play elsewhere.

I can assure everyone of this. Lord willing that I drive one of my fitty fo's 3000 miles to Oregon next year, I won't be parking between two 24 ft SUV's.

This is all I will be saying about this and hope I didn't abuse the original intent of the thread. I've been asked to unsticky it so that it can be replaced by a new 2014 National thread. So here goes.....

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