Jump to content

Recommended Posts

  • 2 weeks later...

Hi

congratulations for your work.

i've bought recently a 1949 super buick, and starting now the long and hard way to try to restore it.

As i live in Brazil, parts and services are much harder to find, including reproduçtions like the perfects ones you've showed or even manuals to guide through repais

would be great if possoble to share some of your photos and experience to make my work less harder

thanks for the attention.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Paint preparation work on the hood, front and rear fenders, and rear wheel skirts. The shelves in the background hold other parts ready for paint such as the reveal and window mouldings, dash, glove box door, and ash tray. The wheels are being media blasted and will be painted the same color as the car. I am fairly certain that was correct for this car when it came from the factory.

Dan

post-61965-143141893212_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143141893194_thumb.jpg

post-61965-1431418932_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143141893206_thumb.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
DAN, you appear to be working in a spacious fabric shelter that's semi-open to the Arizona breezes. I am soooo jealous.

Rob, those Arizona breezes have just moved up over 100F (38C) during the afternoon but March and April were wonderful. The fabric shelter is on the north side of the facility where I'm having this work done. I wish I had that paint booth at my house!

Dan

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 1 month later...
New springs for the 49 Super arrived today. I ordered from Kanter. Shoddy finish, but ok, whatever, I can fix that. I was interested in the box because of some other posts I've read about Kanter Springs. These are shipped from Easton Detroit Spring and are labeled as "Made in U.S.A." Looked at their web site and they claim to have been in business since 1937. It took about two weeks for the springs to get here. A Kanter sales rep called me after I ordered to tell me they ordered them from the factory on customer orders. Free shipping.

EATON Detroit Spring - Leaf and Coil Spring Manufacturer since 1937

[ATTACH=CONFIG]149849[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]149850[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]149851[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]149852[/ATTACH]

Well, here's a reply to one of my own posts.

My garage just called today to tell me these are not the correct springs. The diameter does not match the OEM springs. Just what I need at this point when the car is ready to go back together. Kanter customer service is one guy who is always on voice mail. The springs were drop shipped to me from Eaton. I guess this will be a study in the quality of customer service from these two organizations.

I bought a lot of the restoration parts for this car ahead of time for two reasons - on time availability during the restoration and pricing. This is the first of my purchases to bite me so far. Time will tell if there are more surprises.

Dan

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Dan,

I have had good luck with Eaton, but that has been dealing directly with them.

Also, strictly speaking diameter of the coil just might be different;

but still yield the correct ride height & spring rate.

Difference in metals used & manufacturing methods could cause the diameter to be different

but still be correct for the car.

Have they actually installed them to check?

I'm sure a call directly to Eaton will clear the matter up.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi Dan,

I have had good luck with Eaton, but that has been dealing directly with them.

Also, strictly speaking diameter of the coil just might be different;

but still yield the correct ride height & spring rate.

Difference in metals used & manufacturing methods could cause the diameter to be different

but still be correct for the car.

Have they actually installed them to check?

I'm sure a call directly to Eaton will clear the matter up.

The customer service guy at Kanter has called my shop and they are communicating; pictures have been sent to Kanter. What you expressed in your post is exactly my worry. I should have done business directly with Eaton. But I'll give this a chance to sort itself out. If Kanter drops the ball, I'll go directly to Eaton but I've got no reason to believe that will happen at this point.

I haven't seen the pictures yet but my shop describes the issue as one of functional difference in coil diameter and length. The smaller diameter of the reproduction spring won't allow proper installation. Also, there is apparently some sort of "hook" or canting at each end of the OEM spring that is missing from one end of the reproduction springs and the shop reports they are necessary for proper installation. I'm only repeating verbal descriptions here and I've yet to see a photo so I can visualize this properly. More details later if they seem worth adding to this narrative, but for now, my car has been gone since July of last year and I'm getting anxious to have it back. I've got all the upholstery done, just waiting to put it all back together and get to driving it again.

"What are ya gonna do?" (with a bow of the head for the late, great James G.)

Dan

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...

Carrying on some restoration work here over the 4th of July holiday. My focus for a couple of weeks has been the cleaning and restoration of all the door internals. At the outset of my project I was a bit intimidated by what appeared to be the complexity of all the parts in a door (times 4 on my Super) but as the work has progressed, I've become more acquainted with how everything works. I did take a lot of disassembly photos and videos to assist me in the project.

So its been solvents and cleaners, wire wheels and wire brushes, steel wool and picks - all used to remove dirt, grime, old lubricants, old paint and some of my skin in the process of restoring the door workings to a clean and "as new" appearance. The worst rust I found was on the inspect panels. I had them all media blasted and I painted them with Eastwood's Detail Gray. All of my door handles and escutcheons are in great shape, so I buffed them and they look great. The chromed channels that hold the wing windows are also in great shape. I used some 0-0-0-0 steel wool and WD-40 to clean them then polished them with Simichrome paste. Installed the seals from Steele Rubber and they fit perfectly.

Only two of the for springs delivered by Kanter from Eaton proved to be wrong. I've since received a replacement set for the wrong springs. I'll photograph them and compare them in a separate post.

Dan

post-61965-143141996294_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143141996199_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143141996229_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143141996251_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143141996273_thumb.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites

Springs.

In this photo: the back right spring is the OEM rear spring; the back left spring is the correct replacement rear spring; the forefront spring is the spring Kanter first sent as the rear spring. Hmmm.

Kanter has been very helpful and quick to replace the springs and correct the error.

Dan

post-61965-143141999394_thumb.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
Somehow the letter "F" or "R" wasn't written on their order to Eaton...

Must have been, because when I ordered them from Kanter I had a conversation by telephone with their Orders department and it all seemed pretty clear at the time what was being ordered. But it has all worked out. If I had do-overs, I probably would just go directly to Eaton.

Dan

Link to post
Share on other sites

Here's the progress so far:

The engine has been rebuilt and painted. The distributor (not pictured) has been rebuilt with new bearings and bushing and fitted with an electronic ignition. Transmission is done and ready to be painted and mated to the engine. All four wheels on the ground with most of the suspension parts installed. Brake lines and fuel lines coming up. The wheels came out looking very good with the period-correct BFG bias ply tires. The body goes back on next week just after the engine/transmission are re-installed on the chassis.

post-61965-14314200702_thumb.jpg

More pictures follow in next post.

Dan

post-61965-143142006799_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142006821_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142006841_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142006861_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142006881_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142006901_thumb.jpg

post-61965-14314200692_thumb.jpg

post-61965-14314200694_thumb.jpg

post-61965-14314200696_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142006981_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007001_thumb.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites

The body, doors, fenders, and skirts are finished. They've been color sanded and buffed. Here they are being stored until ready for installation in the coming two weeks. You'd have to see this paint in person to appreciate it. I am very pleased with the work as well as the good quality application of the liner in the body. Same liner was applied to the external sides of the fenders.

post-61965-143142007201_thumb.jpg

Dan

post-61965-14314200704_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007061_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007081_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007101_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007121_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007141_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007162_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142007181_thumb.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites

Dan,

I just reread this thread thinking that you had mentioned it here. Which disc brake conversion did you decide on? It appears you have reused the original wheels, so obviously, the kit had the right bolt pattern.

Looking good!

Link to post
Share on other sites
Dan,

I just reread this thread thinking that you had mentioned it here. Which disc brake conversion did you decide on? It appears you have reused the original wheels, so obviously, the kit had the right bolt pattern.

Looking good!

Thanks, Mike. Wilwood. Bolted right on and uses the original wheels.

Dan

Link to post
Share on other sites
good quality application of the liner in the body. Same liner was applied to the external sides of the fenders.

Is the liner a peel-and-stick heat- and sound-insulation sheet? What brand?

Gorgeous colour. Is it a factory shade, Bahama Blue maybe? Does kind of look like you could dive into it.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Is the liner a peel-and-stick heat- and sound-insulation sheet? What brand?

Gorgeous colour. Is it a factory shade, Bahama Blue maybe? Does kind of look like you could dive into it.

Closest possible match to the original factory color: Allendale Green.

The liner you see in the photos was sprayed on. It will be overlaid with Hush Mat from firewall to trunk.

Dan

Link to post
Share on other sites
Looks GOOD, Dan.

If they would only stay that way.

Ben

Thanks, Ben. I feel that way every time I look at it. Feels good to see it coming back together but there's just a small, nagging voice in there reminding me to look at the shop dust on the frame, which causes me to think about all of the cleaning that it will take to keep it looking clean and purdy after driving it. Part of the fun, I guess. :confused:

Dan

Link to post
Share on other sites

DAN, it's probably just the lazy angel on my shoulder speaking but I figure eventual deterioration should be welcomed as part of any restoration. The factory only intended some parts to look good in the showroom. What happened to the engine or chassis finish the next week or during the next ten years was of no interest to those who built our cars the first time. By powder-coating and clear-lacquering the bits that were meant to be chipped and greasy, we deny future generations the spectacle of Father Time trying to take all our creations back to the Earth.

Admittedly, my "natural" standard of renovation has earned me an engine bay that "looks pretty good, for its age", even though I had it gleaming 25 years ago. Sad part is, the rest of the car has remained unfinished in the interim. I may never get the pleasure of driving and showing my Buick, with all parts at the same level of relative perfection. When I get the interior done, it'll be obvious that the some of the paint needs some work. When that's fixed, the 30 year-old bumpers are going to look a bit crude because Show Chrome is a term that didn't exist back then. Clearly, I'm never gonna catch up but I'm okay with that. Makes me feel needed.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Thanks, Ben. I feel that way every time I look at it. Feels good to see it coming back together but there's just a small, nagging voice in there reminding me to look at the shop dust on the frame, which causes me to think about all of the cleaning that it will take to keep it looking clean and purdy after driving it. Part of the fun, I guess. :confused:

Dan

Driving is more fun than purdy!!

Ben

Link to post
Share on other sites

The after-market Wilwood brakes:

Here are some pictures of the installed dual-chamber brake master cylinder and the pedal linkage. Neat and clean. There will be a bracket fabricated to attach to the bell housing that will hold the return spring.

post-61965-143142059392_thumb.jpg

Dan

post-61965-143142059351_thumb.jpg

post-61965-143142059371_thumb.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
The after-market Wilwood brakes:

Here are some pictures of the installed dual-chamber brake master cylinder and the pedal linkage. Neat and clean. There will be a bracket fabricated to attach to the bell housing that will hold the return spring.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]205278[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]205279[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]205280[/ATTACH]

Dan

Nice set up but it looks kinda tight for the exhaust pipe. Looks like the exhaust will be too close to the master cylinder. Amazing how such large cars have so little room

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...