dibarlaw Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Dave : I was thinking of you while we did a turn through the AACA Museum yesterday. They have a 1912 White with a bus body on display. A few photos. And yes, left hand drive. Sorry about the poor quality of this shoe I had to hold the camera over my head as there was a rope. blocking access. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 I looked those "Shocks" over while I was working on it yesterday. It looks like they keep the radiator from flexing with the frontend and frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) Update on the Truck. Success! I went though the lubricator yesterday and got it cleaned out and working. Then late in the day I was able to get it to fire up for about a minute. Hits on all four cylinders and no knocks or rattles. Freed up the left rear wheel brake this morning. Three days of freeing up stuck and rusted stuff and this 92 year old truck is nearly ready to drive. Dandy Dave! Edited January 1, 2018 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 COOL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: I'm with Carl on the shock theory. Bob ......................................Just wondering why one would carry a spare solid rubber tire? There were a small number of hard rubber detachable rims. They are definitely the minority compared to the standard type which required a large press to remove and install. It's hard to see if the spare in the photo is the detachable type or not , however the wheels that can be seen on the two trucks look like they have press on style tires. I have most of a dual detachable set up but it is buried in my storage shed. They look like the front wheels on this hard rubber GMC. The bolts just inside the tire hold the outer flat appearing steel wedge ring in place. Overall the concept is very similar to Firestone detachable Peu. rims for wood wheel cars. Greg Edited January 1, 2018 by 1912Staver (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Got her out and running and driving around the yard today. Does it run sweet. Dandy Dave! You Tube Video of the motor running. https://youtu.be/ocxDN52Rulo MVI_1712.MOV Edited January 2, 2018 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Those towers on the front are indeed Westinghouse Air Shocks. Quite common on early trucks, especially Whites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 As pictured and explained in my early Dyke's Manual. Sorry I can't tell you which edition but teens or early 1920's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Here's a better YouTube video of the engine running. Dandy Dave! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Sweet sounding and a little smoke never hurt any true "Wrencher"! Good Job Dave! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 That's amazing. How long do you figure it is since it last ran ? Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Dandy Dave said: Here's a better YouTube video of the engine running. Dandy Dave! MY HERO!!!. Dave, you da man Ben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Not sure this is a "White" but it is a good size log. Parked outside an active logging company in central KY I drove by today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 18 hours ago, 1912Staver said: That's amazing. How long do you figure it is since it last ran ? Greg I would not be surprised if the last time it ran was around WWII. The only thing I found that they would have parked it for was a broken off block drain that is in the front of the engine block just behind the fan. I would surmise that whoever had it did not know how to get the broken piece out. It only took me minutes to remove it. A little heat from a torch and an E-Z out and the threaded brass piece came right out. It had to be in a barn or shed back in those years or the War Board would have made them scrap it. I can just visualize the building it was in falling down around it. Even though it's rough, It would be a lot worse if it had always been left outside. Dandy Dave! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just think it could have been scrapped just a few years ago when farm equipment was being stolen and scrapped when the prices were at an all time high. Truck sure will be nice to see at the Kent show in September. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Bob: Dave can tell you about midnight scrappers who made off with a radiator from one of his pieces of equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 hours ago, dibarlaw said: Bob: Dave can tell you about midnight scrappers who made off with a radiator from one of his pieces of equipment. And picking up a replacement for him in and I do not even remember what state I picked it up in. I think it might have been in Northern Michigan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 5:09 PM, dibarlaw said: Bob: Dave can tell you about midnight scrappers who made off with a radiator from one of his pieces of equipment. I remember that story, it was on this forum along with a photo if my memory is correct. Dave and I go back to the $2,000 Stoddard Dayton days. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 7:06 PM, SC38DLS said: Not sure this is a "White" but it is a good size log. Parked outside an active logging company in central KY I drove by today Can't see the nose, But I think this is a White Mustang. Around a 1950. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 14 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: I remember that story, it was on this forum along with a photo if my memory is correct. Dave and I go back to the $2,000 Stoddard Dayton days. Bob I got $3,200 for the remains of the Stoddard Dayton Bob. It went to the state of Colorado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 View from the drivers seat. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush Mechanic Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Well done, Dave. Listening to that old girl is heaven on a stick! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush Mechanic Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 5:38 AM, Restorer32 said: As pictured and explained in my early Dyke's Manual. Sorry I can't tell you which edition but teens or early 1920's. There is a cut-away drawing of Westinghouse shockers in Dyke's 14th edition. That (1925) edition also has several pages of info on the early White trucks, including excellent schematic drawings of the chassis and rear axle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Dave: Thanks for the ride ! Not quite as thrilling as rides with you in the Chartruse Lady, but close. Larry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZRIV Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) I just found this thread and read through it beginning to end. First an amazing timeline from original post and then what an incredible outcome that you were able to get it running and driving DD. Thanks for the pics and video. Very educational. Edited January 18, 2018 by JZRIV (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just goes to show that you can never tell a book by it's cover. Sometimes the rusty ones run the best. Say JCRIV, Have you ever gone to the National Pike Steam, Gas and Horse Association Show. It's out your way. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZRIV Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Dandy Dave said: Just goes to show that you can never tell a book by it's cover. Sometimes the rusty ones run the best. Say JCRIV, Have you ever gone to the National Pike Steam, Gas and Horse Association Show. It's out your way. Dandy Dave! Absolutely DD. The first time was about 5 years ago with the antique motorcycles and after that wife and I go back almost every year as long as its not raining. What an awesome experience. All young kids should have to go to that event and be taught about the equipment that built this country and the effort (and risk in many cases) it took to operate it. Acres of all types of old equipment in operation moving dirt all for demonstration. Not to mention all the tractors, trucks and every steam powered device one can imagine. To boot the food is good and not overpriced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I have displayed my little shovel there once. Would like to go back again. I built that little shovel from scrap and discarded parts. None of it was originally manufactured to be a small shovel. Dandy Dave! 18 hours ago, JZRIV said: Absolutely DD. The first time was about 5 years ago with the antique motorcycles and after that wife and I go back almost every year as long as its not raining. What an awesome experience. All young kids should have to go to that event and be taught about the equipment that built this country and the effort (and risk in many cases) it took to operate it. Acres of all types of old equipment in operation moving dirt all for demonstration. Not to mention all the tractors, trucks and every steam powered device one can imagine. To boot the food is good and not overpriced. Edited January 19, 2018 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 That is some serious engineering to be scrape parts made and work that well. Well done. Dave S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) A video of it in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjycFYl3xnM Edited January 19, 2018 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Back to the White Truck. I straightened the tail light and License Plate bracket. I found a correct tail lamp and a nice pair of cowl lamps for it also. Edited January 21, 2018 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Looking for one rear Hubcap. Anybody have any? Thread size is about 1and 7/8th inches. Also posted on parts wanted. Dandy Dave! Edited January 21, 2018 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 That looks like the tail light from a WWI horse-drawn ambulance. Back in the 70s, in my area of New England, they were commonplace and nearly always in new condition. It is appropriate for a truck though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Dave, maybe these guys know where one is. I just stumbled across this on a Google search. Scroll down till you see the article for the 1920 White fire truck. Howard Dennis https://vintagefiretruck.com/tag/vintage-fire-truck/ Edited January 21, 2018 by hddennis (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Thanks Fellows. I think I found a Hubcap. One of the members on the Face Book website White Motor Trucks page contacted me with photos and all. It looks right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I like the winterfront too. You hardly ever see them even though they must have been very common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwuds Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I have enjoyed this thread on your White truck, Dave. I have one as well. A 1915 - brass era - truck. This pic is from 1973. Loaded up and headed for its new home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 On 2018-01-22 at 7:36 AM, JV Puleo said: I like the winterfront too. You hardly ever see them even though they must have been very common. Winter fronts are quite unusual on hard rubber era trucks. They only traveled at 10-12 MPH so there wasn't a great deal of airflow even at full speed. Blocking or restricting that airflow did not have nearly as much influence on engine temp. as on a 30 MPH automobile. Most I have seen are a simple canvas screen that can be slid up or down across the front of the radiator. A full metal one like on this White is definitely unusual . It looks substantial enough that it is probably a White factory Assy. for extreme winter conditions. I wonder if it is listed in the White parts book ? Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) Actually when I look at the photo more closely I am wondering if it is actually a heavy duty radiator guard rather than a winter front ? You don't see them on many civilian trucks however most Military contract trucks from this era were equipped with them. Greg Edited April 10, 2018 by 1912Staver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Not sure on the front being factory, but it is a guard and not a winter front. A few have told me it may have been used for logging and the front helped protect the radiator in the harsh environment that working in the woods had to offer. I have acquired a parts book for the truck and I don't see it listed. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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