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An age old question, one to which there is an easy answer....yes, and no. <P>First off, you ask whether it compares to both small and big block Chevys and Fords...that is a pretty wide range, if it did, it would be the ultimate engine of all time and would be in every car made.<P>The 401 is a great motor, it can stand up against the motors you have mentioned in most cases. <P>It does not how ever have the potential that a big block Chevy does. But in the real world it will stand it's own. <P>My '65 Gran Sport is relitivly stock with only headers and a mild cam runs 13.88 at 99.99 , that is plenty quick for any street car.<P>They have tons of torque and will beat most others off the line, in a short race, they are REAL hard to beat. <P>First thing to remember is..it is all preference, really. If you like small block Chevys then you will have a fast one and you will report to your buddies the one you read about in Hot Rod magazine that pushes a Camaro thru the traps in 12.90s at 110 MPH. If you like Buicks you will have a fast one and tell you buddies about the 300 inch Buick on the BCA site that pushes a '64 Special thru the traps at 12.72 @112 MPH. <P>EVERYTHING can be made to go fast. If you want to stand out, you run a Buick if you want to blend in and chat about the last Summit catalog, you run Chevys or Fords.<P>If you stick around here long enough you will find that Buicks RUN. Here is a few other sites you can check out. If you want to get on the eGroups mailing list, I think you hcan post a message to do so, there is a WEALTH of info in the emails I get everyday from these guys!<BR> <A HREF="http://buicknailhead.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://buicknailhead.com/</A> <BR> <A HREF="http://buickgsca.com/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro" TARGET=_blank>http://buickgsca.com/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro</A> <P> <A HREF="http://www.egroups.com/group/BuickNailHead" TARGET=_blank>http://www.egroups.com/group/BuickNailHead</A> <BR> <A HREF="http://www.ne-gsca.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ne-gsca.com/</A> <BR> <A HREF="http://www.fastbuicks.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.fastbuicks.com/</A> <BR> <A HREF="http://www.buicks.net/cgi-bin/forum/Ultimate.cgi" TARGET=_blank>http://www.buicks.net/cgi-bin/forum/Ultimate.cgi</A> <P><BR>------------------<BR>buickfam@aol.com<BR>Life long Buick Fan.<BR>1965 Skylark H/T<BR>1965 Gran Sport Convertible<BR>1948 Chevy Pickup with 401 Buick.<p>[This message has been edited by MARTINSR (edited 11-02-2000).]

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Eastatewagon, I sense a bit of sarcasm. If you havn't been following the tread called "the little engine that could" I suggest you take a look. grin.gif Click on the following link. <A HREF="http://www.aaca.org/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000429.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.aaca.org/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000429.html</A> <P>Justin, my reponse answers your question, go back and read it a few times. I understand that you are new to Buicks, just give it time and read everything that you can on these motors at the this and other sites, and you will better understand what I mean. <P>------------------<BR>buickfam@aol.com<BR>Life long Buick Fan.<BR>1965 Skylark H/T<BR>1965 Gran Sport Convertible<BR>1948 Chevy Pickup with 401 Buick.

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Of course, the 300 I mentioned is NOT a Nailhead. The 401 was part of the "nailhead" family: 264/322, 364, 401/425. The name "nailhead" came from the first one the 264/322 in 1953, the valves were so small people called them "nailvalves". The 300 is in the 300,340,350,400,430,455 (and the 3.8 4.1 V6 and 225 aluminum V8) family and is a much more "modern" engine. <P>------------------<BR>buickfam@aol.com<BR>Life long Buick Fan.<BR>1965 Skylark H/T<BR>1965 Gran Sport Convertible<BR>1948 Chevy Pickup with 401 Buick.

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By the way Justin, Yes the 401 can compare under most street conditions with the brand X and Y motors you have mentioned. <P>I believe yours is in a '65 Riv, first off are you sure that you have a 401 and not a 425? <P>The Riv is a VERY heavy car and not a ball of fire, but I was amazed that my brothers '64 Riv could beat my Gran Sport (which is MUCH faster at the drags) across an intersection with ease. The torque really comes into play when you are pushing that much weight. That is why with a Buick you want to race your race, not the Chevys. This means, an 1/8 mile, blow his doors off then get out of it. It is much safer too! <P>------------------<BR>buickfam@aol.com<BR>Life long Buick Fan.<BR>1965 Skylark H/T<BR>1965 Gran Sport Convertible<BR>1948 Chevy Pickup with 401 Buick.

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