Guest DBRdster Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Does anyone know how to remove the spindle arms off the spindle on a 30 Dodge Brothers 1-1/2 ton truck? It looks like its threaded on the end of the arm, and tightened down with a spindle nut, but once I took off the nut, it almost looks like there is some kind of thicker snap ring holding it in, unless that is just a spit bearing of some sorts? Doesn't seem to want to some out. Any ideas?If needed I can try to get a picture of it tonight.Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DodgeKCL Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Is a spindle arm a 'king pin'? If so the king pins on all Chyrsler vehicles I've worked on have a tapered 'slug' about half way down the king pin that you have to drift out backwards to release the king pin from the axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Here is your 1930 1.5 ton assy but I am also not quite clear ( spindle arms off the spindle make no sense to me ) on what you are trying to do and never having worked on one may still not be much help even once you clear up what you are trying to remove.Let us know what it is and I am sure one of us can help though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DBRdster Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Sorry, I guess in the picture they call it the steering knuckle. It's the steering knuckle arm that I'm trying to remove from the steering knuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Not to be difficult but you say steering knuckle and then in the next sentence you say again steering knuckle arm. What # are you trying to remove. I belive you mean the spindle or steering knuckle. King Pin design as KCL pointed out, need to drive out the king pins, do you see within the diagram what you refer to as .............it almost looks like there is some kind of thicker snap ring holding it in.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DBRdster Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'm trying to remove #43 from #8. #8 is a solid piece with the spindle machined. You can't see where #43; steering knuckle arm attaches to #8; steering knuckle. I'm having trouble loading pictures or I'd load a picture of what I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I see, thanks for clarification, I was waay off than in my interpretation, 43 to 8 on my 30 auto is a friction fit after the cotter pin/nut is removed. If you would like to send pict. to jhason2@yahoo.com I can post them here and it might help myself or someone give you a better answer if there is one. I would like to see pict. of your truck if you have them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Here are pics of the truck and part in question, this is the advice I gave to Jeff.......Yes, very nice start. Now that you have given me the pict. I remember the key-way, same as auto. Place the nut on it as far down as it will go and before it bottoms out and hit it with a hammer hard. It will come out, as far as I know there is nothing else holding it there. Will make same post on forum and so maybe someone will recognize something I am missing. I dont think I am missing anything though..................I will add that a little heat goes a long way as well if hitting it with a hammer dosent move it, I an post a picture of the two pieces seperated as well if that would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DBRdster Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Thanks for the reply. I figured it was just in stuck in there after being in there over 80 years, but didn't want to go banging on it with a hammer and bust something if not. That'd be great if you have a picture of the two seperated to give me an idea. Thanks again for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 The correct name name for that spindle is an Ackermann arm named after the inventor of this type of steering Cheers Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Thanks for the reply. I figured it was just in stuck in there after being in there over 80 years, but didn't want to go banging on it with a hammer and bust something if not. That'd be great if you have a picture of the two seperated to give me an idea. Thanks again for your help! I can dig them out of the box this weekend if it still will be needed, just let me know, no problem. Let us know how you make out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 The correct name name for that spindle is an Ackermann arm named after the inventor of this type of steering Cheers Ron The configuration of the front axle is referred to as an Elliot after the inventor of that ear style. Ackerman is new for me, I wonder how many other names have contributed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Does this help ?Ackermann steering geometry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaRay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DBRdster Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Sure enough, I was able to bang it out. I had to put a little heat to it, but got it out. The thread end got a little ruined from the hammer but maybe I can rethread it or shave it down a bit to the good threads.Thanks again for all the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Just a little 'tip' - if you have to use a hammer; thread on a nut and strike that - it will save damaging the threads.Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgy6 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Just a little 'tip' - if you have to use a hammer; thread on a nut and strike that - it will save damaging the threads.RayOr use a punch in the center of the bolt if you can't get a nut on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Or dont back the nut down so far that the threads are exposed, pretty thick nut on that bad boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Sure enough, I was able to bang it out. I had to put a little heat to it, but got it out. The thread end got a little ruined from the hammer but maybe I can rethread it or shave it down a bit to the good threads.Thanks again for all the help! Glad to hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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