BUICK3001964 Posted September 3, 2000 Share Posted September 3, 2000 How long is this thread gonna be? break a record maybe.<P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 3, 2000 Author Share Posted September 3, 2000 Well thats (1) to get it started. My brother and i have thrown a lot of money at this thing making mistakes. Hopefully our trials and erors and experience can now help others.TO start with my intake is a costom peice and very expensive. Block prep and oiling mods.are basic buick stuff. Zero decked 11:1 pistons around 12.5:1, (don't use a high vol. pump wasted a few set of bearing on that foray) 283 chevy (o my)ARP rod bolts in recon. stock rods (direct fit)Cam was ground by ISKY to my specs. (have tried a few cams).530's lift range solid lifter w/adj. pushrods, HEADS 64 Aluminum ,stocksize valves backcut heads,Valve retainer to guide clearance is a problem with anything over .480 lift and a real problem at .530 so is piston to valve clearance i made cutters and used a scrap head to notch the pistons. a machine shop did the valve and guide work I did the porting. scott and i laid out the intake and a freind did the welding use a 650 HP carb a mallery unilite distributor and a 300+ ign. box POSTONS headers a th350 trans 4.10:1 gears W/spool. hope this helps faster motor is in the planning stages now wait and see what we can do with 300 inches of pure buick <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK RACER Posted September 3, 2000 Share Posted September 3, 2000 So Sean, why didn't you tell about how well it runs??? And what you did this year to get in the 12s!<BR>Sean in the Maroon '64:<BR><img src="http://www.geocities.com/gspics2k/racing2/dc0006l.jpg"width=500><P>------------------<BR>Roberta<BR>BCA TREASURER 2000-2001<BR>BCA PRESIDENT 1998-2000<BR>BCA VICE PRESIDENT 1997-1998<BR>WEBMASTER<BR>1956 Special 2 door Sedan<BR>1966 Wildcats<BR>1968 GS-400 Convertible 4-speed<BR>1970 GSX Stage 1<BR>1970 Skylark Racecar - 11.26, 118 MPH, 7/22/00<BR>1986 GN, 4800 miles<P>[This message has been edited by BUICK RACER (edited 09-03-2000).]<p>[This message has been edited by BUICK RACER (edited 09-05-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 4, 2000 Author Share Posted September 4, 2000 Properly setting the timing made a big difference, also going to canada and getting some good air to run in didn't hurt any . I spent the whole week in BG at the GSCA NATS. chassing that elusive 12 second barrier,went so far as to remove the front bumper and put a 50 pound liter driver in the car 13.00 that was fri. nite been 13.0's all week i was racking my brain (what did i miss)it hit me just kinda guessed at the timing in a hurry all the other things to deal before leaving town and kids for 2 weeks. The moral to this run on sentence is pay close attention to the detail all of them. Makes a BIG diference. set the timing sat. morning run 12.92 then redlighted in eliminations. The only change made to run the 12.72@105 was the cool air in Gand Bend Ont. canada <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 4, 2000 Author Share Posted September 4, 2000 that is Grand Bend man that last post is full of typo's later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2000 Share Posted September 4, 2000 I love the pulling off the bumper trick!! Man, Sean, that is some great stuff. Is the manifold an open plenum? What is the diameter of the header tubes and collectors? What is the length of the collectors? Thanks!<P>------------------<BR>buickfam@aol.com<BR>Life long Buick Fan.<BR>1965 Skylark H/T<BR>1965 Gran Sport Convertible<BR>1948 Chevy Pickup with 401 Buick.<p>[This message has been edited by MARTINSR (edited 09-03-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2000 Share Posted September 4, 2000 Sean-<BR>So one should NOT use a high vol/pressure oil pump on the 300?<P>------------------<BR>Dan<BR>1965 Skylark<BR>1965 Gran Sport W.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 4, 2000 Author Share Posted September 4, 2000 Had to dump weight! the primary tubes are 1_5/8" the collectors are 3"about 6 'long with 18"long 4" dia extentions<P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 4, 2000 Author Share Posted September 4, 2000 Check this out! http:/cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=423797001 Isky cam <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 4, 2000 Author Share Posted September 4, 2000 open plenum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2000 Share Posted September 5, 2000 Hey BuickRacer, at the end of the URL to a photo put " width=500> That way the photo will fit within the post and not give the whole thread that W I D E look where you have to scroll to read. <P>------------------<BR>buickfam@aol.com<BR>Life long Buick Fan.<BR>1965 Skylark H/T<BR>1965 Gran Sport Convertible<BR>1948 Chevy Pickup with 401 Buick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 5, 2000 Author Share Posted September 5, 2000 in my experience NO!!! if your engine is put together properly you don't need it anyhow puts to much load on every thing else.<P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBRMD Posted September 5, 2000 Share Posted September 5, 2000 Sean: Impressive motor! I have a 1965 300-4v (stock, 114k, unopened) in my Sportwagon, which has recently developed a crack in the driver's side exhaust manifold. What would you recommend for a replacement? It's a strong motor, altho stock, and since I have to fix, wondering about different options, headers, etc.<BR>Thanks in advance for input!<BR>Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Chapman Posted September 6, 2000 Share Posted September 6, 2000 Steve,<P>I had to replace my passenger side manifold on a 300/2. I think 65Special may have one.<BR> <A HREF="http://www.aaca.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002398.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.aaca.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002398.html</A> <P>Poston's makes a set of headers for the 300/340. I'm thinking of doing these for my '65 Skylark. I've had three reports on them. Two said they fit great, one said they didn't fit at all...<P>Cheers,<BR>John<P>------------------<BR>John Chapman<BR>BCA 35894<BR>1965 Skylark Convertible (Some Assembly Required)<BR> jmchapman@aol.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2000 Share Posted September 6, 2000 Very nice air scoop!. Where did you get it?<P> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK RACER Posted September 6, 2000 Share Posted September 6, 2000 Air scoop from Poston Enterprises, 206 N. Main St., Atmore AL 36502<BR>1 (334) 368 8577<BR>1 (800) 635 9781<BR> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/ideapage/poston/" TARGET=_blank>http://members.aol.com/ideapage/poston/</A> <BR>about $70<BR>I have the same one on my racecar:<BR><img src="http://www.geocities.com/buickracer/rv1.jpg"width=500><P><BR>------------------<BR>Roberta<BR>BCA TREASURER 2000-2001<BR>BCA PRESIDENT 1998-2000<BR>BCA VICE PRESIDENT 1997-1998<BR>WEBMASTER<BR>1956 Special 2 door Sedan<BR>1966 Wildcats<BR>1968 GS-400 Convertible 4-speed<BR>1970 GSX Stage 1<BR>1970 Skylark Racecar - 11.26, 118 MPH, 7/22/00<BR>1986 GN, 4800 miles<p>[This message has been edited by BUICK RACER (edited 09-05-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 7, 2000 Author Share Posted September 7, 2000 SBRMD ; if your gonna keep the car stock stick with the manifolds there no maintinence you'll always be messin with headers. I have a set of '65 heads with good exh. manifolds sittin on a shelf. cleanin barn and found them. John Chapman ; The Postons headers on the racecar fit beutifully my brother has a new set (just got)for his '64 special conv. i hope they fit as well. the motor is 11:1 alum. heads&int.edelbrock carb Isky's 270 cam. rebuilding a 200r4 (currently th350) will have 3.23 gears later A body discs frt. 70's trans am discs rear. should be a hell of a car when finished. Having to much fun cruisin it waitin for winter to park and finish <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Chapman Posted September 8, 2000 Share Posted September 8, 2000 Sean,<P>I don't understand why you'll always be 'messing with headers'. Is there something about them that is maintenance intensive?<P>Feedback on how the headers fit the '64 would be welcome. My '65 (300/2) has P/S and soon to have P/B with a dual master. What exhaust system are you using?<P>What size Edelbrock/Carter are you using?<P>JMC<P><p>[This message has been edited by John Chapman (edited 09-07-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 8, 2000 Author Share Posted September 8, 2000 John, The header gaskets available are't the best.I've made my own and there better,have the stock to make copper ones this winter. The carb on scott's car is a 600cfm will have to play with jetting once headers and new exhaust are on. We havn't decided exactly what for exh. yet probably 2 1/2" pipes and mufflers from Straightline Performance. Will keep ya posted <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBRMD Posted September 8, 2000 Share Posted September 8, 2000 Sean: Thanks for the tips. Are you interested in selling those stock manifolds? How much? In good shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 13, 2000 Author Share Posted September 13, 2000 SBRMD The driver side will need helicoils at the stud holes. the right side has the tube going through it for hot air choke and in very good shape if you're still interested let me know $30.00 for pair + shipping<P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson<p>[This message has been edited by BUICK3001964 (edited 09-12-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2000 Share Posted September 13, 2000 I have Poston headers on my slightly modified 300/4v. The work great--no problems.<P>------------------<BR>Dan<BR>1965 Skylark<BR>1965 Gran Sport W.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 13, 2000 Author Share Posted September 13, 2000 COOL! <p>[This message has been edited by BUICK3001964 (edited 09-12-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 20, 2000 Author Share Posted September 20, 2000 Went to the Midwest Buick Challenge this weekend . broke trans thinkin about building a 200r4 i have a core checkin $ How do ya make the icons that move thier eyes or tungue<P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson<p>[This message has been edited by BUICK3001964 (edited 09-21-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2000 Share Posted September 20, 2000 Havn't you seen the link to the "smilies legend" right to the left of where you type your text? I couldn't figure that out for a month or two of posting on this site either!! But it is right there! <P><BR>------------------<BR>buickfam@aol.com<BR>Life long Buick Fan.<BR>1965 Skylark H/T<BR>1965 Gran Sport Convertible<BR>1948 Chevy Pickup with 401 Buick.<P><p>[This message has been edited by MARTINSR (edited 09-20-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted September 22, 2000 Author Share Posted September 22, 2000 Thanks Martin, i had found the short list but never thought to click that and see what it was on me. Later,<P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson<p>[This message has been edited by BUICK3001964 (edited 09-21-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2000 Share Posted September 28, 2000 Have you ever consider using nitrous in your combo? It is possible?<P>Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted October 6, 2000 Author Share Posted October 6, 2000 Thought about it! This motor is not built for it,stock rods &pistons. I build one that runs 11's on motor then maybe for kicks <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2000 Share Posted October 6, 2000 Or what about a Turbo...in stock form the 300 has a relativly low compression if I'm not mistaken (I'm not, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2000 Share Posted October 7, 2000 What spark plugs is everyone running in their 300's? (What mods have you done?)<BR>I'm also looking for a set of AC44s plugs.<BR><P>------------------<BR>Dan<BR>1965 Skylark<BR>1965 Gran Sport W.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2000 Share Posted October 8, 2000 Sean-<BR>Let me know about those plugs--thanks.<BR>My 1965 300 has the following:<BR>Cast iron heads and 4bbl intake<BR>Carter Competition 500cfm carb<BR>9.0 or 9.2 to 1 compression (2bbl heads)<BR>1 5/8" headers<BR>SB-110 Poston cam - duration 260 degrees and .462" lift<BR>double roller timing chain<BR>hi vol oil pump<BR>(manually switched) st300 switch pitch converter<BR>---What spark plugs do you think are best for my setup?<BR>Thanks again.<BR><P>------------------<BR>Dan<BR>1965 Skylark<BR>1965 Gran Sport W.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2000 Share Posted October 8, 2000 One more question--<BR>What diameter pipes should I run?<P>------------------<BR>Dan<BR>1965 Skylark<BR>1965 Gran Sport W.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2000 Share Posted October 8, 2000 Dang I hate when I forget things.....BTW, my 65 300 has pertronix ignition and a 40,000 coil. (see two posts ago--what spark plugs?)<P>------------------<BR>Dan<BR>1965 Skylark<BR>1965 Gran Sport W.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted October 8, 2000 Author Share Posted October 8, 2000 I run R44TS plugs in my alum. heads. Used a chamfer tool to very lightly remove material from top of theads. reach and extention into chamber are perfect. plug are easy to get to boot. I'm not sure about iron heads may work maybe maybenot. mite have a set of 44s plugs i will check, I have considered a turbo,been discussing it with a TR guy/buddy of mine. 64 300's 4bbl. are 11:1 2bbl 9:1 my curent engine is 12.5:1 <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson<p>[This message has been edited by BUICK3001964 (edited 10-07-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted October 11, 2000 Author Share Posted October 11, 2000 I have a set of 65 iron heads on the shelf ,when i get a chance i will see if an R44ts plug will work. I'll post when i know. <P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK3001964 Posted October 11, 2000 Author Share Posted October 11, 2000 OOPS! 2 1/2" <A HREF="http://www.racemufflers.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.racemufflers.com</A> for mufflers Straightline performance is Scott Baker a GSCA members buisiness he designs some nice mufflerscheck it out<P>------------------<BR>Sean Etson<p>[This message has been edited by BUICK3001964 (edited 10-10-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Chapman Posted October 11, 2000 Share Posted October 11, 2000 Dan,<P>Sounds like you've done a lot of what I want to do to my 300.<P>Who's headers did you use?<P>Are you happy with the combo you've got (manifold/carb/cam)?<P>Did you upgrade lifters and pushrods, too?<P>Do you have electric choke? If so, how well does it work?<P>Cheers,<BR>John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Chapman Posted October 11, 2000 Share Posted October 11, 2000 Sean,<P>Are the Straightlines quiet enough for a cruiser convertible (Mamma doesn't wanna sound like a prostocker)?<P>Are you running an 'X' pipe or other crossover?<P>Thanks,<BR>John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2000 Share Posted October 12, 2000 John-<BR>I used Poston's 1 5/8" headers (only ones I could find). They are a little pricey; I think they were $295.<P>I LOVE my 300! The Poston SB-110 cam idles like a stock cam and pulls all the way from idle to 5500 rpm.20 horses over stock.<P>I went with the Carter Competition 500 cfm AFB(w/electric choke) because:<BR>To my knowledge Edlebrock (same style carb) does NOT make a 500 cfm with electric choke.<BR>Carter does.<BR>Not to mention the Carter has a polished finish. I got it from JEGS.com, and I've never had a problem with the carb or choke.<P>With the cam I have you do not need to upgrade the cam or lifters. I was planning on it, but when I order the parts from Poston, they said it wasn't neccessary. I appreciated their honesty.<P>If you need anymore info please let me know. Before I rebuilt everything I spent a good 6 months finding the ALL the parts.<P>Anything you're planning to do that I didn't?<BR><P>------------------<BR>Dan<BR>1965 Skylark<BR>1965 Gran Sport W.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Chapman Posted October 12, 2000 Share Posted October 12, 2000 Dan,<P>Thanks for the info. I'm planning to add a 200R4 and posi rear. I'll probably do the lifters, too. I've got one or two that are making noise.<P>What are you using for an aircleaner?<P>Do the headers bolt up to the stock dual exhaust? Or will I need to get something special?<P>$300 for headers isn't awful when you consider that the stock manifolds seem to go for $100-150/side. I paid about $135 locally for my right side used one after looking all over. Of course, as soon as it was installed, about 10 show up on eBay for much less...<P>Cheers,<BR>John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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