30U, ore somthing other and what kind of body?

[Guest waldtill]

Dear all!

I´ve signed in this forum, cause I have some older pictures I don´t know how to call the car on it.

I am almost shure it´s an 1930 Plymouth 30U that I´ve photographed in 1992 at the Canary Islands.

But what kind of body is this to call?

Thank you for your help.

Greetings waldtill

[keiser31]

Sure does look to be a 30U Plymouth four passenger convertible coupe.

[Guest DodgeKCL]

Good Lord it looks like someone just got out the wrenches and disassembled it right there to the last nut and bolt. Even to taking out the rear end crown and pinion set. It was a pretty dual sidemount open car in it's youth. Shame.

[Guest waldtill]

It stood just beside a "repair shop". In this days it was a bit of normal to find such wrecks all over the islands, a vew years later everything was "cleaned up" (scrapped)

In the past there were high taxes on new cars, so a lot of jalopies were patched together for a long time.

Unfortunately I had too small pockets to take some of these with me

Is ist possible to link a picture of an identic car in original condition to this tread?

[Guest waldtill]

By the way - perhaps there is someone who can solve another riddle. In an other corner of this island I photographed this wreck:

In this Photo in the background again

I presumed an Morris of the 1940th?

[Guest waldtill]

I think I have to adjust my last entry:

Crysler Airstream 1935?

[keiser31]

It stood just beside a "repair shop". In this days it was a bit of normal to find such wrecks all over the islands, a vew years later everything was "cleaned up" (scrapped)

In the past there were high taxes on new cars, so a lot of jalopies were patched together for a long time.

Unfortunately I had too small pockets to take some of these with me

Is ist possible to link a picture of an identic car in original condition to this tread?

Too rare of a car to find a good example probably. I would imagine that it was for export only and will be VERY difficult to find another example....in ANY condition. It may be the only example of that body style. I do not find it in my research. It resembles the 1929 Chrysler "touring cabriolet" a little bit.

Edited February 23, 2012 by keiser31 (see edit history)

[Guest DodgeKCL]

This is what a 1930 Plymouth Convertible Coupe looked like,at least in an artist's rendition. I said it was a pretty car.

[keiser31]

This is what a 1930 Plymouth Convertible Coupe looked like,at least in an artist's rendition. I said it was a pretty car.

It certainly was a pretty car. That body style is close, but different.

[Guest waldtill]

The pictures are illustrative, thank you!

Shurely there were no rumble seat, the convertible soft top covered all four seats.

But how to call this body? Convertible? Cabrio-coach?

And is it to expect that the window frames were fixed to the doors?

Where the RHD cars were assembled?

[Guest DodgeKCL]

I think that's it. The Plymouth and DeSoto Story book shows one other photo but it is the same just no sidemounts. But both are called 30U Convertible Coupes. Quote "The 2 or 4 passenger car pressed the weight scale to 2,450 pounds. In all 30-U production 1,272 convertibles were registered..................6 wire wheels,front fender wells and a folding trunk rack were also available for any 30-U but for an extra sum. " These are the only 2 Plymouth open cars that have a fixed windshield. Making them the 1st convertibles with roll down door windows. All other open cars have folding windshields which class them as roadsters. Roadsters have side curtains that snap in place and are stored under the rear seat or in the rumble seat well.

The car was most likely made in Canada. Canada had unrestricted access to the British Commonwealth. The U.S. did not and had to pay a tariff that Canadian manufacturers did not. So the U.S. companies like Chrysler,GM and Ford and others used their Canadian plants to supply the Commonwealth with right hand drive vehicles. This 30-U was likely made in Windsor Ontario at Chrysler Canada Ltd.

In the movie 'The King's Speech' you'll recall that the king abdicates to marry the American Simpson woman. The ancient rules of the realm required that the abdicated king get the hell out of Dodge and stay out. There could be only one king in country at a time. Just after Edward had his say he drove down to the docks on the Channel and he and Simpson sailed for France and into exile. The car they drove was his 1936 McLaughlin-Buick,right hand drive of course, made just down the street from me in Oshawa Ontario at GM Canada Ltd.

Edited February 24, 2012 by DodgeKCL (see edit history)

[keiser31]

I think that's it. The Plymouth and DeSoto Story book shows one other photo but it is the same just no sidemounts. But both are called 30U Convertible Coupes. Quote "The 2 or 4 passenger car pressed the weight scale to 2,450 pounds. In all 30-U production 1,272 convertibles were registered..................6 wire wheels,front fender wells and a folding trunk rack were also available for any 30-U but for an extra sum. " These are the only 2 Plymouth open cars that have a fixed windshield. Making them the 1st convertibles with roll down door windows. All other open cars have folding windshields which class them as roadsters. Roadsters have side curtains that snap in place and are stored under the rear seat or in the rumble seat well.

The car was most likely made in Canada. Canada had unrestricted access to the British Commonwealth. The U.S. did not and had to pay a tariff that Canadian manufacturers did not. So the U.S. companies like Chrysler,GM and Ford and others used their Canadian plants to supply the Commonwealth with right hand drive vehicles. This 30-U was likely made in Windsor Ontario at Chrysler Canada Ltd.

In the movie 'The King's Speech' you'll recall that the king abdicates to marry the American Simpson woman. The ancient rules of the realm required that the abdicated king get the hell out of Dodge and stay out. There could be only one king in country at a time. Just after Edward had his say he drove down to the docks on the Channel and he and Simpson sailed for France and into exile. The car they drove was his 1936 McLaughlin-Buick,right hand drive of course, made just down the street from me in Oshawa Ontario at GM Canada Ltd.

With all due respect, I think you are missing it. The car in question is NOT a standard issue cabriolet or convertible. There is no way there is room for a rumble seat and the cab seating area is larger than the cabriolet. Here is a SIMILAR body on a 1932 Chevrolet. Notice the rear seating area and no rumble seat...

Edited February 24, 2012 by keiser31 (see edit history)