Guest Tim Romans Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hi Folks, I'm back after recovering from some surgery. I'm the one that's been battling the 41' that won't start since last summer. I wanted to check and see if anyone had any leads on where I could pick up the 6v relay switch for my solenoid. I think this may be the root of my difficulty. I had my starter and solenoid rebuilt last fall, or so I thought... The starter passes the screwdriver test and "whirrs" when I touch the solenoid terminals at the bottom. I pulled the starter off last night to test the solenoid relay. I ran a wire from the battery to the positive terminal and grounded the other with a screwdriver. I popped the top off of the relay cover to see if the points opened, closed, or did anything and nada. I happened to notice the magnet coil, it was a nice scored, charcoal sort of black with some frayed windings hanging from it. Safe to say, it's fried and the dude who I paid to rebuild it, did not replace the switch per my instructions :mad: Anyway, does anyone have any leads on where I can get the relay switch? Bob's seems to be out of stock at the moment for the whole solenoid/relay switch combo.Cheers!Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grant Magrath Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 What about Kanter, or, and this is hard for me to say, Cars Inc?CheersGrant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Romans Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hi Grant! Kanter doesn't seem to carry the relay switch and as for CARS, ummm....I was going to avoid badmouthing if I could, but they were the ones that did the shoddy rebuild in the first place, even after I explicitly and implicitly told them to replace the relay. All CARS did was sand down the outer contacts and spray paint. The rest of the starter and switch were left untouched.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph P. Indusi Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Later models ( I don't know exactly what year) mounted the solenoid relay separately on the firewall in front of the passenger. These are not cheap if one comes up on eBay once in a while. Assuming you could find one, just follow the wiring diagram of say a 1952 Buick and that will work for you. You will basically rewire your starter solenoid by running a lead to the relay mounted on the firewall and bypass the one mounted on the solenoid.Now if you are not too concerned about appearance you can use any 6 volt relay to do the job. The relay should have a 6 volt ( or close to 6 volts) coil to pull together a set of normally open contacts.Good luck.Joe, BCA 33493 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Romans Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Forgive me Joe if I sound like a moron, I'm still a relative newbie to things electrical. If I were to find a later relay switch, would I need to find a 1952 Buick wiring diagram? By running a "lead" to a relay and bypassing the one mounted on the firewall, would I basically extend the wires from the carb switch to the one mounted on the firewall? How would bypass the old relay?As you also mentioned the easier, less aesthetic outcome. If I went to Napa and found a 6 volt relay switch, would I use the same method you mentioned above (mounting it to the firewall and running a lead, or is it possible to find a switch that would mount on the solenoid?) Again, sorry for all the questions and yes, at this point, I'm getting less and less concerned with original appearance and just want to get the thing running again. I really appreciate all your help and advice!Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Romans Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Say for instance, could I use this relay?eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john hanson Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'll check tonight I should have a new one this will be oem if i have itJohn Hanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Romans Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Many thanks for looking John! I look forward to what you can turn up. Thanks again!Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john hanson Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 TimI found two solenoids One is for 1941 Delco #1118102 and before the other is for 1942-50 delco # 1118019 . The difference is The head tilt's a little away from the engine on the 1942-50 they both have two wires to them and 51-52 has one wire. I will sell one of themand hope i can make the other one fit my 1938 if needed. 1941 and before 1118102 300.001942 -50 #1118019 250.00 + shipping Email a ph. no. and i'll call youJohn Hanson Hampshire IL.Email johnanddee1956@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph P. Indusi Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Tim Romans:Send me a private mail with your email address and I will send you a copy of my article that I published in the Buick Bugle a few years ago. It contains the wiring diagram for the 52 Buick. You can use a good NAPA 6 volt relay, just follow the wiring diagram.Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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