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I don't know if this is current or not -- but here's a straight-eight Peerless for sale. "Part of a large estate, restored, runs." This is a 1930 Peerless Model "A", or "Standard Eight". These have 85 HP Continental engines in them and are 247 Cu. In. Partial restoration in Florida about 5 years ago, went to Washington state, now is in Tennessee. $29,000 or best offer. Previously owned by Pistorius Restorations, Curtis Elkins, Dexter Dotson and Larry Brough.

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1923 Peerless Model 66 Touring Phaeton. It appears to be in flawless condition. It looks like the one the late Frank Hebl, from Wisconsin, owned.

Listed By: The Boat Brokers & RVs, Inc. in a small town in Arizona....

TOLL FREE:1-800-488-0258
1680 INDUSTRIAL BLVD.
LAKE HAVASU CITY, AZ 

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On 12/11/2017 at 12:45 PM, jeff_a said:

 

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I looked at the Owls Head Transportation Museum site about their auction, and there are 3 photos of the 1928 Peerless -- the first one on this thread, one of it´s Packard hood ornament(1918-19 vintage), and one of the engine. Ralph, whom you met at Hershey, told me it is one of three Peerless Boat Tail Roadsters with Hume bodies(Hume Carriage Co., Boston), the other 2 going to Canada when new. No mention of that in the auction blurb, so add custom body to the list. This outstanding photograph seems to show it with headlights and benefiting from a good detailing. Dave Noran, an owner of a similar car, says only 362 8-69s of all body styles were made in 1928.

 

P.S.: I haven´t seen the car in person, documentation, or a coachbuilders tag, but this is what Ralph told me in 2015. There definitely was a Hume Carriage Co., doing bodies for Hupmobile, Lincoln, Locomobile, Marmon, Mercedes, and Pierce-Arrow.

>>>> >> The last time this went up for sale it fetched $35,000. I have no idea where it is now.

 

 

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This 1909 Peerless Mod. 19 7-Pass. Touring Car will go on sale at the Hershey RM Auction this week.

$4,475 at the factory -- 38 HP -- cast aluminum body panels -- coachbuilder: Brewster[one of at least 49 sources of bodies for this marque]. America's most expensive automobile brand in 1909. Also 1904 and 1913, I've read. An odd coincidence is that TWO 1909 Peerlesses are for sale at this time: this one and a Model 25 Raceabout that Hyman Motors in St. Louis has had available for awhile.

Owned by the late Les Holden of Southern Pines, NC.

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There is a 1929 Peerless Mod. 6-61 for sale in Chagrin Heights, OH near Cleveland. Seller is Mark Fogarty, who has had this dark blue and black Coupe since 1996. Asking price: $16,000. From a Facebook Marketplace ad (  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/127260489483755/?ref=product_details&referral_code=undefined   ).

 

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No.

 

It is written, an auction company shall not divulgeth the new owner or location,

Only the sale price with commission, so the Saleworthiness of the House Who Selleth shall be exalted.

The chariot shall go to the promised land of such devices(overseas, usually), unless Providence deems another auction augurs well.

 

What I mean to say is that going to a big auction often is the last time I ever hear of an antique car...until the next auction. It is possible to contact the auction company and ask if you can send along a request to know who the new owners are. Sometimes that works, one time I was informed the company would lose its auctioneering license if they told me how to get in touch with the new owner. THAT was a small-time company, not one of the giants.

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On 1/31/2012 at 5:18 PM, jeff_a said:

Another Peerless is for sale on ebay until FEB 6th (in addition to the straight-eight): a blue 1930 6-81 Sedan mentioned here on the Peerless Forum several times before. It's the one with red wire wheels, air horns on the L.S., and a rear spare. Starting price: $20,000. BIN price: $32,000.

I'm always trying to learn.

In my research a 6-81 would likely be a Six Cylinder car with an 81 HP engine. 

Did Peerless make a Six in 1930? I can find only that they made five Standard 8 styles, seven Master 8 body styles and eight Custom 8 styles... along with a single 6-cylinder Model 61A Roadster style.

Have I totally missed a Six-Cylinder series? I'm here to learn.

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The model number and horsepower aren't necessarily linked in Peerless cars, just like a Galaxie 500 isn't 500 h.p. The 6-81 was mostly a 1929 model, with a 248 Cu. In. six advertised at 66 h.p. 1930 was supposed to be a straight-eight-only year with the Standard, Master and Custom models. The 1929 orders for the 2 lower-priced models(6-61 and 6-81) were so good, it was not possible to complete all of them in that model year......ending 8/31/29......so Sept. 1st and later cars were titled as 1930s. The key to the mystery is looking at the "How To Identify Your Peerless" thread Philippe Mordant of Belgium posted here on the Peerless Forum. The Second Series of the 2 models are the 1930s, about 4,050 of the 9,007 6-61s; and 751 of the 3,575 6-81s.........according to these serial numbers. The 3 lines of inline 8s were behind schedule, especially the Standard 8s, so this was a way to fill the gaps. I've seen a Scranton, PA dealer ad in Feb. or Mar. of 1930 stating "the 6-61A, a model of conservative price, was still being built".

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An interesting Peerless that was mentioned at its last sale is up for sale again: a restored  light green 1925 Model Six-70 Touring Phaeton. One of 3 known 6-70 Peerlesses, out of 2,786 built, mostly in 1924. 40 years ago a Canadian wheat farmer purchased dozens of antique cars, restored a few to presentable shape, and displayed them in a big Quonset hut. This Peerless was one of them. The auction company declined to give me any serial numbers of the car or contact information of the new owner, but said the buyer was in Sidney, MT. Well he wasn't...but was someone 80 miles N.E. of there in ND named Eugene Krueger. It sold for about $11,000 CDN($8,000 USD). The same car was on this thread in July, 2018.

 

DavidAK, in "1928 Franklin For sale", in the "Automobiles & Parts For Sale"  thread(4/16/22), posted about a Franklin for sale at a May 29th, 2022 auction in N.W. ND(Crosby), and this is one of about 50 vehicles(Chevs, Buicks, Studebakers, a Packard, a Star, an Overland, an Erskine, and others, 1920s-1970s) listed by aumannvintagepower.com  . I think the pic below is from the Sept., 2018 auction..........seeing how Crosby has been in the midst of blizzards the last couple of weeks, as all you North Dakotans know!

 

 

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20 hours ago, jeff_a said:

Thanks, Mr. Harper....for the link and another good picture from the sale 4 years ago. I've seen other photos from back then, and cosmetically, the interior and top looked great,as well as the exterior. 

Hello Jeff,

 

I thought that photo was for the current auction scheduled for 5-29-22? It came from the Aumann page for the current auction so I assumed it was a current photo.

Regardless it looks like a nice, solid looking car.  Hopefully it finds an excellent home.

 

Best regards,

Terry

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Thanks for spotting the hubcap A.J., hard to find really. By my count, there are 14 of these cars on the planet, so they're not in every car show, every collection, either.

The ebay seller has described it as fitting a '31 Peerless...But Wait!...owners of 1930 and 1932 Peerless Master Eights and Deluxe Master Eights can use these, too, vastly increasing the market for this beauty. 

 

A few years ago someone had a Peerless Coupe for sale in Tamales, CA that was one of the Peerless straight-8s..probably a Master Eight..and this might fit it. Interesting car in running condition. During the lakebed runner phase of southern California hot-rodding, someone cut down a Coupe to a roadster to comply with the rules, put wider tires, a Chrysler straight-8, and smaller headlights on it.

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You got here ahead of me, Terry. Yes, a good price. Quite a dream car for anyone who contemplated buying and restoring the other 6-70 Phaeton, which all the kings horses and all the king's men couldn't have done, except Jay Leno. I think one or two "Woodrow Wilsons" would cover it.

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1930 Peerless

 

Not mine.......Just posting for historical/roster reasons.  From the tag it looks like it could be a Custom or Master 8?  However the straight six in the pictures seems to imply it is the smaller 61A series?  A project to keep a guy busy, that's for sure.  Jeff Brown, I always appreciate your efforts on the Peerless thread so I thought I'd post this in case it wasn't known or accounted for.  

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2127043494146717/

 

1930 Other Other · Sedan · Driven 111,111 miles 1930 peerless complete car with extra set of driving lights. Hand crank and electric start. Bad Babbitt in the motor. Hasn’t seen the outside world since 1972 except for moving it around to make room for other things in the barn. Before that it hadn’t been outside since 1960. Needs complete restoration but it’s all there. $12500 /rbo

 

 

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Thanks, John.

More later: need to go to work.

 

It is one of 3 continuation models of 1929 Peerlesses into 1930. About half of the 6-61s(Possibly 4,000), many hundreds of 6-81s, and maybe 74 8-125s were made after September 30th, 1929 -- the cut-off for 1929-titled Peerless cars. This is a 1930 Six-81, 3rd from the top in the 1929 price and features spectrum of:

  • 8-125 _ _ _ _114 Inline 8 _ _ _$2,195-$2,395
  • 6-91 _ _ _ _ _ 70 I-6 _ _ _ _ _ $1,895-$1,995
  • 6-81 _ _ _ _ _ 66 I-6 _ _ _ _ _ $1,540-$1,595
  • 6-61 _ _ _ _ _ 62 h.p. I-6 _ _ $1,195-$1,395

All Peerlesses, but 4 distinct models, engine and prices. This one would have had a 248 Cu. In. Continental six of 66 HP. Price new $1,595, 4-wheel hydraulic brakes, 7-main-bearing crankshaft. 1930 was supposed to be an all-straight-eight year, but production of them started a little late...combined with strong demand for the 3 sixes and one straight-eight in the 1929 lineup.

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Just noticed the tag which might give y'all the idea of it being a 1930-1932 Master("B") or Custom("C"). You must have an advanced  reading knowledge of Peerlesses. The C-813153 means it's the 3rd iteration of the 1926-1929 line of medium-priced Peerless cars with 230/248 Cu. In. engines: 6-80 1st Series, 6-80 2nd Series, 6-81...rather than the later Custom 8. The 813153 implies it's 250 cars into 1930, out of around 3,700 units(!).

 

A nice car to start with IMHO. I didn't say easy or cheap to repair or restore.........but you wind up with a lot more intrinsic value than a lot of newer cars experiencing a temporal "nostalgic" wave of high dollar value.

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On 2/8/2023 at 9:51 PM, John Bloom said:

1930 Peerless

 

Not mine.......Just posting for historical/roster reasons.  From the tag it looks like it could be a Custom or Master 8?  However the straight six in the pictures seems to imply it is the smaller 61A series?  A project to keep a guy busy, that's for sure.  Jeff Brown, I always appreciate your efforts on the Peerless thread so I thought I'd post this in case it wasn't known or accounted for.  

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2127043494146717/

 

1930 Other Other · Sedan · Driven 111,111 miles 1930 peerless complete car with extra set of driving lights. Hand crank and electric start. Bad Babbitt in the motor. Hasn’t seen the outside world since 1972 except for moving it around to make room for other things in the barn. Before that it hadn’t been outside since 1960. Needs complete restoration but it’s all there. $12500 /rbo

 

 

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John This is a 1932 Master 8 I rebuilt  25 years ago.  It had lotsof power (Continetal 13K) but was gear bound. 55 mph it was about at the end of its rope. The starter button was by pulling UP on the horn button.

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31 minutes ago, mikewest said:

John This is a 1932 Master 8 I rebuilt  25 years ago.  It had lotsof power (Continetal 13K) but was gear bound. 55 mph it was about at the end of its rope. The starter button was by pulling UP on the horn button.

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Mike, that is a handsome ride.

 

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On 2/14/2023 at 8:43 PM, John Bloom said:

I hope someone sees the merit in buying it to just preserve it.  Unfortunately, I don't see that happening at the current asking price.  

There's a different way to look at it. You get it restored and go to a car show. How much of America's automobile history is in this car when you tell a visitor what a Peerless is? There might be a row of  Corvettes and Chevelles, roughly 5,000,000 sold, but show them a picture of Louis Chevrolet with his new Peerless Six-80 in 1926 and point out there are more Duesenbergs around than Peerlesses. There are several features on the Chevy that Peerless introduced years before.

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11 hours ago, jeff_a said:

There's a different way to look at it. You get it restored and go to a car show. How much of America's automobile history is in this car when you tell a visitor what a Peerless is? There might be a row of  Corvettes and Chevelles, roughly 5,000,000 sold, but show them a picture of Louis Chevrolet with his new Peerless Six-80 in 1926 and point out there are more Duesenbergs around than Peerlesses. There are several features on the Chevy that Peerless introduced years before.

Jeff, I agree with you and love your passion for the make.  The number of people who would spend the money to bring this car back is a very small pool.   Let’s hope that person stumbles upon it.     The fabulous options out there, at the money it will take to resurrect this Peerless, make me think someone getting it for way less than the asking price, and then preserving it historically, is maybe more realistic.  
 

it would be nice to see it saved. 

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Statistically, no one reads this thread. Though it's had 38,000 views, most people off of the AACA Forums don't know the carmaker existed or manufactured stuff from 1865 to 1931.

 

However, there's a Chevy Chevelle for sale on Hemmings for $199,000 and another for $104,000. The 1929/1930 Peerless appears alarmingly complete, but has a fairly high buy-in price for a car you can't put 10 gallons in and drive to Poughkeepsie. It hasn't sold for about 10 years, but it's been in a barn for 50 years. As you know, the barn dust alone adds $10,000 to the value of a car. Maybe you're right that the number of folks who would buy & restore this Peerless 6-81 is a very small pool, fitting in a fairly small room. But the number of folks who could afford it would fill a very large room. Personally - I do not see the appeal for these mass-produced Chevies - but someone must think folks out there would pay 100 or 200 grand for one. They don't fly or come with Superbowl tickets, so the appeal must be trendiness. My point is that for less than those prices, one could afford to restore the Peerless. And at the end of the day, Chevy or Peerless, you have one car.

 

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This 1929/30 Peerless Six-81 has a larger engine than the Series 53, 55, or 57 Chevelles, when introduced, plus a longer wheelbase. 248 cu. in. Continental six, 116" w.b.

 

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Chevy Chevelle. 100s of these mass-produced GMs have been restored, millions built. Chevy's Ford Fairlane or Dodge Dart. Also in pickup truck, station wagon, and 2-door versions. When Chevelles came out in 1964, Series 53, 55, 57 base engines were 194 cu. in. sixes, with 230 cu. in. sixes optional; the Series 54, 56, and 58 had V-8s. 115" w.b.

 

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5 hours ago, jeff_a said:

Statistically, no one reads this thread. Though it's had 38,000 views, most people off of the AACA Forums don't know the carmaker existed or manufactured stuff from 1865 to 1931.

 

However, there's a Chevy Chevelle for sale on Hemmings for $199,000 and another for $104,000. The 1929/1930 Peerless appears alarmingly complete, but has a fairly high buy-in price for a car you can't put 10 gallons in and drive to Poughkeepsie. It hasn't sold for about 10 years, but it's been in a barn for 50 years. As you know, the barn dust alone adds $10,000 to the value of a car. Maybe you're right that the number of folks who would buy & restore this Peerless 6-80 is a very small pool, fitting in a fairly small room. But the number of folks who could afford it would fill a very large room. Personally - I do not see the appeal for these mass-produced Chevies - but someone must think folks out there would pay 100 or 200 grand for one. They don't fly or come with Superbowl tickets, so the appeal must be trendiness. My point is that for less than those prices, one could afford to restore the Peerless. And at the end of the day, Chevy or Peerless, you have one car.

 

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Jeff, if your point is that after spending a bunch of money, a guy could either have a restored Chevelle or a restored Peerless....and that having a restored Peerless is cooler, I agree with you...... but let’s face it, apparently we are weird and in a small minority of crazy people.   
 

but that doesn’t mean we aren’t right!  😊

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On 2/25/2023 at 3:36 PM, jeff_a said:

Statistically, no one reads this thread. Though it's had 38,000 views

Jeff, 

I check this thread everyday to see if there are new posts. I might never afford to own a Pierce-Arrow or a Premier but maybe... someday a Peerless - for one of the "3 P's" they seem to run under the radar.

 

  

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2 hours ago, Terry Harper said:

Jeff, 

I check this thread everyday to see if there are new posts. I might never afford to own a Pierce-Arrow or a Premier but maybe... someday a Peerless - for one of the "3 P's" they seem to run under the radar.

 

  

Terry, it seems like about twice a year I see a Peerless (late in their manufacturing run before it all stopped), that is for sale and affordable. These are typically not the big senior cars from their height of Luxury, but they carry the torch for Peerless nonetheless.  I would think you’d be well received on the lawn of an informal car show because of their legacy and interesting history. Keep looking for one!  I’ll look for you, I’m gifted in helping buddies find things to spend their money on. 
 

 

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 If a guy goes to classic.com there are about 10 Peerless cars listed from previous sales...a good way to see {a slice of} what's out there these days. The price of that 1920 Mod. 56 Sedan that came out of the museum in Pigeon Forge that closed is astonishing, if true. This 1927 6-60, restored and with a Great Race history, seems to be for sale by Streetside Classics way off the beaten path in Florida. 

 

1927 Peerless S-60.........

https://www.classic.com/veh/1927-peerless-s-60-a402599-WbVdxwW/.             (Note that there's another like it on the "Peerless for sale dept." thread that sold recently out in the wilds of California, a '27 6-60 in green. There are a lot of cars of this marque that change hands...but you'd need 10 hands & 10 computers to keep track. I have no idea where the green one went....)

 

Here's the 1920 Peerless Mod. 56 which sold for $9,625 six years ago at the RM Sotheby's Auburn auction:

1920 Peerless Model 56............either a Sedan: $4,140, or a Sedan-Limousine: $4,400 new.

 

 

 

 

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