Steve Suttle Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Does anyone know of anyone out there who repairs rear snubbers or has a source for a front set?My rear shocks are not hooked up - the canvass is broken.I have no front shocks at all, but the brackets are attached to the frame.As always, any help appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMF Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 What shocks?My '25 only has leaf springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 Well, they may be accessories, but I'll tell you the front mounts look like a factory application to me. I'll post a photo later this evening.Also, although the shop manual says nothing about shocks, there is one exploded view of the rear axle that has what look like the canvass straps trailing off the axle.I'm going to pull the rear shocks off this week and get a photo of those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMF Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Here is a shot of my rear axle FYI. Edited November 21, 2011 by FMF (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBrinker Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 My 25 doesn't have shocks either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I know there were many aftermarket shock makers. I know ROMAR carries the belting. Myers probably does too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I have a set of 4 shocks (snubbers) from a 27 DB coupe that I will be using on my 27 124 Roadster. I drive my DB's on some seriously rough roads (that is a very loose term for some of the cow trails we frequent!) and the thing I have noticed is the rear REALLY needs shocks and the front just doesn't seem to need them at all. Rear springs are much longer and because it is the drive axle the tires make and break traction which amplifies the wheel hop. I have been tempted to hide a pair of tube shocks in front of the rear axle to combat this problem. I am afraid I am going to break an axle or ring and pinion sometimes. Plus, just think how much fun it would be to power slide those corners!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMF Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) I'm really not interested in changing my car's suspension but I'd like to see how these "snubbers" are installed. I never heard of snubbers until this post. Edited November 22, 2011 by FMF (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 No shocks on my 25. I'd like to see some photos of what they look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I'm trying to post a photo of the front axle that shows the mountings for the snubbers. Stand by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 let's see if this worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 The rear snubbers look like cookie tin and have canvass straps that attach to the springs with a similar bracket as the one shown on the front.I, too, have trouble with bumps and rough surfaces especially when cornering.The rear axle tends to swing out as I go around a sharp corner.Pretty exciting.I am going to pull the rear snubbers and see if I can use them on the front and then look for another pair for the rear.I found an outfit in Calif who states that they rebuild these. We'll see ...As for originality, I wonder if DB offered these a dealer installed accessory?Does anyone out there have the accessories book?BTW - linoleum installed on the running boards. Looks pretty sharp, too.Someone give me guidance on proper wheel colors for a standard late '24 116 roadster.Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Interesting. I haven't seen any like that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I had some very similar on an Overland.They never did work, but they were hooked up.The Ford Model A shock is similar EXCEPT it uses an arm instead of a strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Model A shocks are hydraulic. The snubbers I have seen are all friction or spring. DA's and I believe Victory Six's had hydraulics and at least the Vic 6 had belting instead of a solid link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyDaVinci Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 These are what the DAs have ... lever action with snubber belting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The part attached to Steves chassis appears to be a Gabriel Snubber which was an after market brand My friends 1926 Chrysler 62 has Weed Levelizers and my 2249 Senior 6 has Watson Stablestors on it These are all friction type shock absorbers Regards Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 In the UK, Cookes Patterns & Castings,West Avenue, Wigston, Leicester, LE182FB cookejohn@hotmail.com sell new Gabriel Snubbers (two sizes) and sell two sizes of webbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 If you're looking just for the snubber belt Restoration Specialties (814-467-9842) has a large selection of sizes. Be sure to ask for snubber as it looks similar to regular cloth hood lacing but thicker and the weave is different. Happy motorin' Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 My reference to Model A shocks was to the shape, not the way they work.Again, these are shaped like a cookie tin, somewhat larger than a Ford shock.It's also curious that the front ones are attached to the bumper braces.So I would surmise that the bumpers and snubbers were attached by the dealer aftermarket. At least that make the most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thanks Lenny, I was thinking DA's were that way too. Just couldn't remember for sure. I will try to get pics of my nubbers from the 27 today. Huge winds last nite and still this morning so it may be an inside shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Calling for wind and rain the rest of the week in the valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jari12 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I have a 1927 model 124 with the same front snubbers as Steve showed in his photo. Mine are just the brackets mounted to the front axle. I do not know where the straps would have attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 I started a new thread with photos of the rear snubbers that I pulled off today.They are Gabriels and are part # 3B, so Ron Lawson wins the cigar!!!Makes you wonder just how many applications they had - 3C? 4A? 4G? Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I wonder what the thought process was that a shock only needed to act on rebound (strap instead of a linkage)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 You got me, Mike. It must be a matter of tension.I'll be interested to see if they improve the ride at all once they're rebuilt.Like everything else in the history of automotive engineering, it's a progression.Who would have thought anyone would ever improve on the 2 cylinder horizontally opposed Oldsmobile engines of 1901? There were front wheel drive cars built in the 1920s and 30s, but it wasn't until the 60s and 70s that the Mini, VW Rabbit and other front drive cars became common.Now that's all there is, practically. Snubbers were probably better than nothing. Shocks are better than snubbers, Struts are better than shocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Thanks for the cigar Steve but I dont smoke. However if you are going to be at the DB celebrations in 2014 I would like to catch up and chew fat about our cars Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 I do hope to be at the centennial celebration. I don't know if I'd be able to bring my car all the way up there, but I'll look into it.I also hope that FIAT hasn't killed off the Dodge marque by then.It concerns me that Graham Bros., Dodge, and Fargo trucks have dissolved all the way into just "Ram. "With Plymouth gone, is Dodge far behind? Let's hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Good point. And we all know what F.I.A.T. stands for eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Suttle Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 I believe it is some reference to someone named Tony and his inability to repair a FIAT the first time. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Right you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Another one is F.I.A.T. Failed in all tests. Also others that are unprintable. Merry Christmas to every one from The Land Downunder regards Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Good one! I hadn't heard that one before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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