Brass era car to identify- photo.

[Guest stephen48]

Here s a picture that I like taken in Stratford NZ circa 1912.

Can anyone identify the tourer in the street please.

[nzcarnerd]

It is an Overland - a popular seller in NZ. This one looks to be a 30hp model. Either 1911 or maybe 1912 - I am not sure of the difference. It looks a little odd with the windscreen up in the 'forward' position.

[wac]

I don't believe it's an Overland, though many were exported.

The hood is too long for a 4-cylinder engine.

The door hinges don't look like Overland (unique).

The car is too long (7-passenger?) to be an Overland.

Bill

[Layden B]

A close inspection of the original picture may resolve this, many Overlands have their script painted on the hood at an angle. Hard to see but this may be one of them.

Here is one that is also hard to see just above the headlamp.

Edited December 7, 2011 by Layden B
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[Manuel]

That rear mudguard should be a good clue.

Manuel in Oz

[franklinman]

Pretty sure it's Overland. Layden is correct re the slanted script on the hood corner (If you look close it's there). It's either an '09 or '10 based on some smaller details such as the starting crank, radiator core, filler neck, etc.

[TheMoneyPit]

I like the Ford T sticking it's nose out - looks like a 1912 to me, but could be earlier or later as there were differences between US and UK cars. I agree that the main car in the picture is an Overland - as Layden points out the script is there - I can't think of another company who did that script stencil the same.

[Guest stephen48]

Thanks for the comments. An interesting photo of a moment in time 100 years ago!

[sfair]

Any ideas on the motorcycle?

[nzcarnerd]

Most likely a Triumph.

[Ian Hayhurst]

The photo starting the thread is a 1912 Overland Model 59-T Touring, I believe. The 1911's had flat rear fenders and outboard levers. The larger 1912 Model 61 has running boards with integrated tool boxes.

Layden's photo looks like an earlier and larger 1910 Model 42--one of my favourites--but I could be mistaken.

Great photos!

Ian