1950 Saratoga/New Yorker difference's?

[Guest another Ratman]

My 1950 Saratoga looks like the 1950 New Yorker pictures I have found on the web. I know they made only 1000 of the Saratoga 4dr and many more New Yorker's. Was it kinda like when G.M. has two cars that share a number of simular things? ie. Camaro and Firebird. Maybe not a great example but I hope you get what I mean! Also any thought about a difference in value. I'm thinking that the NewYorker had something upgraded about it from the Saratoga but I can't see any difference in pictures or in parts catalogs, and service manuals. So whats up with this? Any thoughts to the value of these two cars assuming two of the same year and condition? Thanks for any imput as I am just trying to figure whats what! Ratman

[Guest De Soto Frank]

Same body, same mechanicals... this is referred to as the "large-chassis MoPar", which means it has bigger brakes, wheel bolt pattern, and some suspension parts are heavier-duty than it's six-cylinder cousins.

The Saratoga was Chrysler's lowest-priced eight-cylinder car, so the trim and interior may be different ( and less elaborate ) than a New Yorker of the same body style, and it may also not be as fully-optioned ( Radio, Clock, heater, etc).

That's not to say it was a cheap rattle-trap, just a more basic car...

( Sort of the same differences between a Royal and a Windsor, both being Chrysler sixes, and essentially the same car, but the Windsor was dressed-up a bit more. )

[Rusty_OToole]

Saratoga and New Yorker originated as special trim models in 1939 or 1940. They were identical cars except for upholstery and maybe accessories.

So far as I know 1950 Saratoga and New Yorker were the same except for upholstery and fittings.

In 1951 the Saratoga was the shorter wheelbase Windsor car with the V8 engine usually found in New Yorker and Imperial. New Yorker and Imperial kept the long wheelbase chassis of the previous straight eight models.

[Guest another Ratman]

Thanks guys, your help is greatly appreciated. I'm intellegent enough to know I'm ignorant.

[Guest De Soto Frank]

Still sharp enough to have decent taste in cars and trucks ( check-out the list under my "signature" )

[Guest prs519]

I have the dash trim, clock, etc. for a 50 Saratoga. It is difficult to imagine more lavish

trim. One is reminded of the chrome tables of the 50s. Real purty.

[Guest Mark Rigotti]

My 1950 Saratoga looks like the 1950 New Yorker pictures I have found on the web. I know they made only 1000 of the Saratoga 4dr and many more New Yorker's. Was it kinda like when G.M. has two cars that share a number of simular things? ie. Camaro and Firebird. Maybe not a great example but I hope you get what I mean! Also any thought about a difference in value. I'm thinking that the NewYorker had something upgraded about it from the Saratoga but I can't see any difference in pictures or in parts catalogs, and service manuals. So whats up with this? Any thoughts to the value of these two cars assuming two of the same year and condition? Thanks for any imput as I am just trying to figure whats what! Ratman

Don,

If '50 is like my '49 then Chrysler had basically 2 lines. The straight 6 & the straight 8. With the 8 the Saratoga was the bottom on the line "Economy Type" model and then you went up to the New Yorker and finally the Imperial (I may have that switched w/ the NY & IMP)

Regards,

Mark Rigotti

BTW Contact me sometime I know the Saratogas are rare My 2nd series '49 is one of about 2400 but that includes the 2 door (about 800) so my 4 door is one of about 1600 made.

[Guest another Ratman]

Just wish I knew how many survivors are hiding out there. After looking around my gut feeling is less than ten of the "50 4dr's. Might just be wishfull thinking though. Daisy's one of 1000 or so..... I looked into the numbers for production and a few vin numbers and a few engine numbers are sort of missing. The numbers don't match up. Probably testing and stuff at the factory. Anyone have any ideas about that? Roughly 20-30 engines and 20-30 cars.