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Hello Petemick My friend has a spare engine for a Graham Paige 621. Not sure if it is an 18ca but I will look into that if you want to do some homework of your own. My friend George said there were 2 engine sizes for Grahams in 1929. Just went for the last cruise of the year in the Peerless as the thermometer is about to drop.

John Knight

Thank you guys for your assistance, I have managed to find a specialist in Johannesburg who is trying to repair the head for me so let me give it a week or so and see how it works out

I bought a book on Continental engines some time ago trying to work out how the early history of the model range worked but it was no help at all.

I posted a lot of pictures on the Peerless Motor Car Company website recently of my car as it now is . It is a delight to drive

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XLI. A Peerless Dash And Wiring, and a Pair of Headlights With Crossbar from a 1927 Peerless 6-80 are for sale on kijiji right now in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada. The price is $100 each for these two units, O.B.O. Look at: www.kijiji.ca in Ontario for the ad. Phone or text (289) 213-4443. Ad says "Busy Fri, Sat, and sometimes Sun". Good photos. Not my items, don't know sellers.

Hey Jeff,

Thanks for the tip but I am unsure of that dash.

By the way, I might be in need of a grill shell for the Peerless. I dropped mine off at a re-chromer's shop in Montville, Maine, and it's been more than a year since.

I've called and emailed and he still keeps avoiding me saying he still need to do some work on it. I have a sick feeling about it. I think it's no longer of this world. To say I am a bit "miffed" is a severe understatement.

Ralph

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I wouldn't be miffed, Ralph. Whether the guys at the shop sold your rad shell on ebay, threw it in the trash thinking they could get a new one at Pep Boys, or lost it, they will either be paying for craftsmen to fabricate an exact reproduction for you, or whatever you have to pay to find an original one out there. Ralph Cartonio says that every one of the Peerless models has a slightly different size radiator shell as you go up the price ladder(in the 1926-1928 time period), so don't assume a 1928 6-60, 6-91 or 8-69 shell will fit a '28 6-80.

I suppose the shop may come through for you, too. We can only hope! Were you going to have them chrome plate or nickel plate? Have you contacted Ralph about another grill shell in the event something happened to yours? I remember he was trying to find another one for his 1928 8-69 Roadster in 2010, and sent away for one FS on eBay. I think he paid something like $400 and it was the wrong size....maybe he still has it & it would work for you.

Did you get to see the ad on kijiji yet? It may be that you don't need these parts, but they look pretty good in the photos. As I recall ---------- you may have a '28 6-80 with the oval, glass-front instrument panel, so none of these parts may fit anyway.

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XLII. Today there are a couple of interesting Peerless parts FS on ebay: a Delco Distributor Assembly for a '23, '24, '25 Peerless 8; and a Barn Find of Parts for a 1909 Peerless. At first glance, I thought someone discovered the 1906 Peerless parts cache in Iowa...but these appear to be in Texas.

The 1909 parts consist of the rear panel of a Roi des Belges(7-Pass. Touring Car) body, front seatback sheetmetal, and front fenders. Possibly more. The ad now says there are body brackets and a professionally re-done radiator. There are 5 photos. $20,000.

The cost seems a little high, until you remember that Peerless was using cast aluminum for some of its body panels at this time. Not sure which pieces on a 1909 are steel and which are aluminum, but not everyone can cast the latter in their basement workshop.

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XLIII. For all you guys out there :D with 1924 Peerless Model 6-70 cars....I actually saw three things you could buy for them when I looked on e-Bay a couple of days ago:

  • A Model 70 Instruction Book (Owners Manual)
  • An early 6-70 Sales Brochure showing the body styles available when first introduced about March, 1924 (5-P Sedan, 2-P Roadster, 5-P Touring Phaeton)"...all available in Peerless blue." The 5-P Coupe, 7-P Touring Phaeton, 7-P Sedan, and 7-P Berline Limousine were available later.
  • The 1924 6-70 Generator that's been FS for 4 years now.

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It's interesting to note that the '24 Peerless 6-70 Roadster is not a boattail, like the 1925-27 6-72 Roadsters and Roadster Coupes -- and the sedan is the style with the little "eighth windows" forward of the A-pillar. The 5-P Touring Phaeton is the body style of the only remaining Peerless 6-70. If you are a frequent reader of the Peerless Forum, you know that 6-70 production was 2,786 units. March, 1924 to March, 1925: 1924 and 1925 model years only.

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Here's a great picture of a 1924 Peerless 6-70 Roadster.
You've never seen one 'cause there aren't any around anymore.
(you can buy a photo on autolit.com)

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XLIV.  For all the people interested in Peerless V-8s out there, there is a Peerless Mod. 56 Intake Manifold for sale on e-Bay. This of course, is for the 4-Barrel Ball & Ball brass carburetor Peerlesses used starting in 1917. Price: $200. Looking at his seller's site, it looks like he has the Ball & Ball Carburetor that goes with it, too, for $500.

 

FS until 9/4/15. Seller is listed as: "58mm_weber_collector" (Signal Hill, California).

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The 1916 Peerless series 1, the 1917 Peerless series 2, and 1918 Peerless series 3 all had the water jacketed brass intake manifold. The manifold on Ebay is aluminum and exhaust gas heated and would be first used on the 1919 series 4 model 56 engines and used into the early 20's.

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Thank you for pointing out what this guy may have and how the Intake manifolds vary quite a bit. 

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The ebay listing is incorrect in listing the two-barrel carburetor as a four-barrel.

 

Easy to verify, look at the intake manifold with two runners.

 

Jon.

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But look at the carburetor-----four separate air passage ways with separate jets, one low speed and one high speed for the left bank of cylinders and the same for the right bank.  The manifold has two passage ways--- one for left and one for right. Four throats going into two passage ways.    Ball & Ball two stage carburetor with accelerator pump.

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Not at all unusual.

 

Schebler had airvalves (primary air, and secondary air inlet ) on most of their single barrel carbs, doesn't make them a two-barrel. Or check out the 5-ball Kingston (or the 10-ball Kingston ;) ). The 10-ball, using this line of thinking would be a 10-barrel carb? Nope, just a single barrel.

 

And, yes, I am familiar with the Ball & Ball (actually, it is a Penberthy) 2-stage two-barrel. I have one around here somewhere. Penberthy called it a type DV (double venturi) in their catalog. Their single barrel was a type SV (single venturi), but still was two-stage.

 

The Penberthy DV is one of the earlier two-barrel carbs. However, Zenith had one in 1915, and Stewart (Detroit Lubricator) in 1916.

 

Jon.

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XLV.  On Ebay Motors/vintage parts & acces./Peerless there is a Radiator Shell and a Radiator seller says is for a 1926 Peerless. Weathered, but still has emblem on rad shell, says "PEERLESS". Has single water return fitting at top(different from the one FS on the PMCC website). Harrison radiator. They are asking $500 (auction ends 9/21/15, Monday morning).

 

Also, there's an Auto-Lite Distributor for a 1927 Peerless 6-60, FS by another seller. (I mistakenly typed "6-61" earlier)

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I saw that and it has two water returns for the Peerless V-8.  Looks to be in good shape and worth the money if you need one.  RHL

 

Getting back to the Ball & Ball carburetor,  About 50 years ago my carb was acting up and I didn't know much about it, I put an ad in for help and a fellow contacted me who was a salesman for the Penberthy Company and had a bran-new Ball & Ball carburetor in the box it came in. He said he kept it all these years just to show these young wipersnappers how advanced they were in 1915 when they came out with this "four barrel--two stage carburetor with accelerator pump."   I bought it from him along with some manuals and he showed me the workings and adjustments.  The salesman called it a four barrel and I assumed that is what it was.   (who cares!)  as long as it works.

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ADVANCE NOTICE.....................COMING UP FOR SALE SOON........................NOT YET PRICED........................

 

XLVI.  Some 1930s Peerless parts will be coming up for sale as Bob DeBone of Hawaii finishes the restoration of his 1932 Peerless Master Eight. He will most likely put in his own post here in a while, but they will include a Trunk(poor condition), Oil Filter Cartridge for 13K Continental Engine, Gas Gauge, Ammeter Gauges, RF or LR Window Mechanism, 2 Hub Caps(re-chromed),  Rear View Mirror, Assist Straps, Voltage Regulator, Cooling Fan(vacuum), Steering Column, Window Crank Handle(broken & patched), Door Opening Retainers, Accelerator Pedal(new), Metal Side Mount Covers(newly painted black...too small for Lester 600-19 tires), Timing Chain(used), 2 Vacuum Windshield Wiper Motors, Southwind Gasoline Heater, 1 Original Mirror and 2 new Mirrors(door hinge style), Warner Gear T 74-1 Transmission(3-speed w/ free-wheeling), 1 Axle Shaft.

 

If you need these parts -- please contact me by private messenger (going to my profile, sending a PM) and I'll give you Bob's phone #.

 

....Jeff

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XLVII.  A NOS Timing Chain [for Peerless Mod. 6-72/6-90/6-91 289 sixes] (FS Best Offer), and an early Brass Peerless Hubcap [estimate 1910-1920] (auction ends in 25 hours) are for sale on e-Bay. Current prices are hubcap $50/chain $150.

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XLVIII.  A stroll through the ebay vintage auto parts aisle today comes up with a few things. The above Timing Chain, an Axle Shaft for a 30s Peerless or Marmon, Generator for a '24 6-70, a Solid Brass Gear Shift Knob (not originally on Peerless cars, but I've never seen one and it's a neat item), and a couple of Stromberg Carbs that may go on Continental-engined Peerless Sixes. The most unusual is a perfect Etched-Brass Reproduction of an Engine Serial Number Plate for a 1929 Peerless Model Eight-125 for $375.00. 

 

That's a lot of money, but it's a beauty. I have a little trouble figuring what the market is for it, though. After studying Peerlesses for nine years, I find the 8-125 to be one of their greatest models and perhaps the make's biggest enigma. They are CCCA Classics, have great size, power and presence, and were built in numbers nearly identical to Duesenberg numbers. The enigma is that there are only six left that we know of.

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Hi. I've just purchased a standard 8 30 peerless . I need a inside door handle.  Two hood clamps. Fuel gage.   Two large 3 inch octagon hubcaps for the fender spares.   Just wondering how many 1930 peerless s were made and how many are left.  Thx d

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 Hi Doug, 

Welcome to the AACA Forums! I don't know where any of those parts are, unfortunately. The record of surviving Peerless cars and trucks, KPAIE, shows 352 or 353 vehicles. Only about 28 of all 1930s straight-eight Peerlesses built are known to still exist....so yours is a little on the rare side. Just short of 4,000 1930, 1931, & 1932 Peerlesses were sold. What state, province or country do you live in? I only know of 8 or 10 Standard 8s. still around. Sorry to not write back earlier, but I've been on the road for awhile[at the Cozy Corner Cafe in Winnett, MT]. 

----Jeff

 

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Hi Jeff.  Thx for your knowledge.  I'm in the Fraser valley. Bc.    Canada.   One hr east of Vancouver.  Bc.   2.5 hrs north of Seattle.  I haven't measured the wheelbase yet. So it could be a custom 8,.  It was advertised as a custom 8.  Is there another way of telling if it's a custom 8??    Vin no is a10314  Thx Doug.  

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According to my records: 1930 Peerless--all Continental engines

Standard 8  85 hp   118" wb    3 speed trans.

Master 8    115 hp   125" wb   3 speed trans.

Deluxe Master 8   115 hp   125" wb   4 speed trans.

Custom 8  120 hp   138" wb   4 speed trans.

Custom 8 sedans had cigarette lighters and ash trays in the back seat

Free Wheeling was an option 

 

 

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Hi Doug,

 

Now I recognize the car. Your Peerless was in the Willowbrook Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge showroom in Langley, BC for some time, and is red & black. That V.I.N., if it's the "Car Serial Number" visible on the plate on body sill/r.s. under carpet, as Peerless used to call it, is telling you it's the 314th of 2,003 Standard Eights, or Model "A"s, built for 1930 and 1931. Beautiful Count Alexis de Sakhnoffsky-designed motorcars. It took me 8 years to find where that car was....after finding a photo on the web back in 2006.  ----Jeff writing from Fort Benton, MT

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LISTING OF MANY PARTS AND ACCESSORIES FOR SALE ON EBAY THROUGH "KITTYCOINS".  WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, TAKE A LOOK.....

 

FRAMES, AXLES, WHEELS, SHEET METAL PARTS, ENGINE, TRANSMISSIONS, AND MUCH MUCH MORE

 

MOST ITEMS FROM A 1929 PEERLESS

 

QUESTIONS CALL GARY AT 937-776-0222

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Thank you for posting this, Brian. I looked through the ebay listings today and saw bell housings, a transmission, 3 nice-looking chassis', 3 heads for six-cylinder engines, what may be a 1918 radiator and shell, and a complete Mod. 6-81 engine for sale.

 

*** [NOTE: 2nd engine mentioned in post 100 is a partial Peerless V-8 engine. I looked at the ebay photos and tracked the motor serial # down to being a Series 7. Probably dates to about 1922, and this was among the last 2,000 of about 24,000 Model 56 engines constructed.]

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