Guest SmithR Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I am trying to find out if this model had door sills, inside armrests or not. When I purchased this, it was buried in a barn, had been slammed together to display in a museum prior and almost everything done has turned out to be either wrong or poorly done.I have the body fully restored and painted, mechanically the flathead runs well, albeit a Plymouth truck motor, and now having troubles as reinstall what KNOW should be on it.I have enjoyed this so far, just a little frustrated when find yet another missing part needed to progress to point I can use my car for club functions and shows.HELP anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 So, What do you actually need? Photos of the interior - particularly the back seat areas? What areas are needed in detailed photos? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmithR Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I need photo's showing the correct placing of armrests, if any were installed, as well as the door sill area to show correct carpet trim.Any interior photo's showing as close to possible the original way it came off showroom floor.I am hitting snags now with unknown parts needed to get the interior in. We can't finish the door trim until I find side channels for the windows, I only have 2 of the 8 we think were there, have no armrests, and not sure if needed them, and also do not have door sills if those were needed.It seems I go 1 step forward and one back as get closer to finsihing the project.Thanks for any help you can provide.Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 You didn't specify if your car was a fordor sedan or not. The sedans had arm rests built into the rear side seat trim and front arm rests were avail. as an option but I have yet to see a car with them. The cars did have door sill plates and new ones may still be available from a company in North Haledon,NJ. ph. 973-423-1196. Good quality but not cheap. What do you mean by window side chanels? There are the window run channels that the glass rides in and the regulator channels attached to the glass. There were only inside wipe strips and bumpers on the outside . Carpets were only in the rear and were in 3 parts. A strip was nailed to the diveshaft tunnel and 2 small pcs. for the foot areas had floating pins that went through holes in the floor to hold them in place. The doors were trimmed on the bottom with carpet material. If you want more info feel free to call me at 814-322-4481 PA East. time Thanks JIm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Here are some shots.As far as I know there were no armrests on the front doors at all, not even in the 7 Passenger Sedan (Limo). The back seat had armrests on both sides that also held the ashtrays. (More to come)... Edited September 27, 2011 by 1936 D2 Added Photos (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Here are a few more.... (Firewall behind the dash) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 And more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmithR Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I have 2 channels similar to those shown in your picture, but they do not have the triangulated metal at the end like those shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmithR Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Do the channels in your picture go on the forward edge of window or the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) You can just see the top end of that wide channel in photo #2 in the first set. The whole wide part (or back edge) of the front door window channel we are speaking of can be seen in photo #2 of the third set. They are folded for shipping in that photo. You must picture the narrower part straightened out off the non-curved end of the wide channel. This then forms the finished rear vertical part of the window channel for the front doors. (They fit inside that metal blank piece that is in the back part of the front door window glass opening).The whole idea of this system is that the channel is large enough to handle the full travel of the front door glass. The pattern is: first crank pulls door glass straight back about 1.5" to form a "vent" space at the front of the door glass, then second and all subsequent cranks pulls the window down the full length of the opening so the top of the glass is even with the bottom of the window opening. Turning the crank opposite pushes the glass fully up in the channel to the top and then the last crank pushes it forward to full close. Very nice looking start to your car! Excellent! Edited September 27, 2011 by 1936 D2 added data (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmithR Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Thanks, Now I know what I have for channels and what they should look like when finished. As for the door sills, I should be able to manufacture them, I was not sure what they should look like.I have the grill, hood and fenders ready for the paint booth, they will be a glossy black offset to the gray body. The interior is going to be a gray/silver camelhair, and I think I have all the escutcheons, handles and trim for the inside.It has a been a long two years but it is getting closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 A few more interior photos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmithR Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 For the other doors window channels, (Front window forward channel and rear windows) are they similar in shape or just curved channel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Hey Ron,Not to burst your bubble on the paint colors, but if you are going for "original", the '36 Dodge did NOT have contrasting fender colors available except for Canadian built cars (and that was an option I understand). The fenders, both outside and inside were painted body color. The inner fender panels were also body color. The cowl (engine side of the firewall) was a satin finish black. The floor pans and the trunk floor had a VERY thin coat of the same satin black both inside and out. There also was some very faint over spray of body color on them around the edges near the body color. The frame will have that same satin black as the cowl, and so will the battery box and the front seat lower tool pan.Looks as though you have selected the "Dolphin Gray" color if I am not mistaken. That will have a very nice look! Edited September 27, 2011 by 1936 D2 more data (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) The other door window channel is pretty standard stuff. Has a type of rubber covered metal that is "expanded" so it can be bent for the upper corners. (See the back door in photo #2 of the first set). The whole things are "U" shaped with the bottoms the open end (of course)! Edited September 27, 2011 by 1936 D2 Added info (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Also, Ron, where in this wide world are you about? That may make some difference in us being able to advise you of particular parts suppliers that may be closer to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmithR Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I am in SouthEastern Washington State. This is a NW car, I believe I am 5th owner. I know that making the fenders black is not kosher for original, but the wife asked for this color scheme, so bending to her wishes to keep harmony on amount this rebuild has cost. We thought by buying a car from a "Museum" would make it easier, HA, I have 1800 hours in this after complete stripping of paint, fixing the errors by previous owners, and making it as close to original as could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (NW meaning North Washington??) Yup. They all seem to be money and time pits once you really commit to them. And on museum pieces, those are usually cars that are "donated" to the facility. There is no guarantee that they are necessarily "original". Could be a good bet though. Sounds like this time you got the raw end of a museum purchase from a "museum" that did not have a car expert on staff, (or you would have been made aware of the "non-originalness" of the car).Either way, you are still doing the right thing at trying to "correct the errors" so the history of the car can be preserved as much as possible. Just be sure to record all the places where the car has had modifications from original so that future generations looking at the car will have access to what is not original in style or repair of this particular car.For instance, all the photos I have posted here either reflect the car in it's original state (except for the CB mounting under the glove box) or after a clearly researched restoration for accuracy has occurred (such as the "Mercury Metallic" blue paint color). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I have added some photos to post #5 that may help with window channel placement and interior construction. (BTW: this is all on the passenger's side, generally working from front to back with the photo numbers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Th place that does the sill plates has a waiting list that is a mile long ( last time I checked ) so if you can than you are better off making them yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Ron I see that you must have a fordor. I think you'll find that making door sills will be a very difficult task. Probably better to purchase some,either used or new. If you are having trouble with your window channels I can help you with those. I can rebuild the wide front channels and the upper ones and get you the correct window channel. Front doors are different from the rear. If you don"t have the correct regulator channel you will have to hunt them down. If you want the windows to operate properly it's imperative that you have the right channels. I might have a couple of fronts that might still be good. Let me know Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmithR Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Jim, if you can build the front channels, as well as a set of rear channels for both sides, what would the cost be? I do have the regulator channels, just not the clips from the regulator arm to the channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Hi Ron. If you're interested I need you to send them to me. I enjoy helping so I usually just cover the cost of material and shipping. I can also make a set of belt strips(whisker wipers). The regulator arms have rollers at the ends of the arms that slide into a channel on the regulator channels. The front one has a hole in the center for a roller that keeps the reg. arms from coming out. The rollers are avail. if you're missing them. The rear reg. slides into a short channel on the reg. channel, it is not locked in. There are no clips that hold them. I can help with some of your other problems. Give me a call some eve. for my address and we'll discuss it. Thanks Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankngin Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Hi there Are you making any progress on your 36 dodge? fam36@comcast.netgive me a shout once in a whileFrank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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