Can you help me identify this car?

[Guest graupooten]

I'm hoping you experts can help me identify the car in this photo:

http://fedora.dlib.indiana.edu/fedora/get/iudl:14354/SCREEN

Thanks so much!

Edited June 15, 2013 by graupooten (see edit history)

[keiser31]

Model T Ford.

[Guest graupooten]

Thank you! Any idea what year?

[keiser31]

It actually looks like a 1915 or so with later fenders.

[TheMoneyPit]

13-14 with later fenders - the 15's had a cowl as opposed to the flat firewall. The diference between 13 & 14 has to do with the bottom of the door which is obscured in the picture.

[Guest graupooten]

Again, thanks! From the photos I'd been able to scare up, I couldn't see anything that looked exactly like it between 1910 and 1927 or so, and now I know why.

Very much appreciated!

[Guest graupooten]

There's a possibility this car is the same one; does the bottom of the door look as if it could be a '13 or '14 model (hope that makes sense...)?

http://bixography.com/images/openjob1.jpg

Edited June 15, 2013 by graupooten (see edit history)

[Guest Gary Hearn]

I doubt they are the same car despite the missing fenders, running boards,etc. The first car appears to have a shorter wheelbase than the second. But what do I know, the picture was taken long before I was born.

[Guest graupooten]

Thanks, Gary. I appreciate any and all insights I can get.

Edited September 7, 2011 by graupooten (see edit history)

[oldcarfudd]

Both bodies appear to be '14s. '13s and '14s both had a zig-zag windshield, but the '13 upper half folded forward and the '14 upper half folded back. The one in the top picture is folded part way back, so it's a '14. '13 doors went all the way to the bottom of the body and had squared-off lower corners, but '14 (and later) doors didn't go down that far and had rounded-off lower corners, like the one in the lower picture. Either way, these cars are "bitsas", bitsa this and bitsa that.

Gil Fitzhugh, Morristown, NJ

[Guest graupooten]

...or in other words, FrankenFords?

Thanks, Gil!

[keiser31]

I doubt they are the same car despite the missing fenders, running boards,etc. The first car appears to have a shorter wheelbase than the second. But what do I know, the picture was taken long before I was born.

I think the wheelbase looks shorter on the car in the first photo because of the fenders and running boards being on there filling in the empty space.

[Guest graupooten]

I want to thank you all for helping me out with this. Much obliged!

(Incidentally, the solemn-looking character sitting in the driver's seat in both photos is none other than jazzman/singer/songwriter Hoagy Carmichael.)

[nzcarnerd]

It is unlikely that there is any difference in the wheelbases of these cars as the Ford T kept the same 100 inch wheelbase from 1909 to 1927.