Guest Nozzle Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 MopTJ Richards cars had their TJR stamping on the firewall and one enameled badge on the passenger side lower cowl at least till 1941It's such a shame that most of TJR's and Chrysler's early records were lost in a fire. A little HistoryT.J. RICHARDS (TJR) was established in 1884 and in 1885 set up shop in Mitcham. As a blacksmith RICHARDS originally built horse drawn carriages, carts, buggies and sulkies building their 1st car body circa 1905 at Hindmarsh Sq Adelaide. 30 years later TJR built their first car body and went on to make vehicles for a range of companies, including Chrysler, operating on Anzac Highway (As stated now Le Cornu's furniture shop). Chrysler eventually took over T.J. Richards in 1947. Until recently, the Chrysler name had not been used commercially in Australia since 1981. But for more than 50 years Australians had been buying Chrysler's for almost every purpose a vehicle could used for, from towing the family boat to racing around circuits and charging across the country. Chrysler Australia was a subsidiary of the U.S. Chrysler corporation, a giant multinational concern started by the remarkable Walter P. Chrysler. Walter P. Chrysler, a former railway worker, made his reputation working for Buick, then took over the Maxwell Motor Company which was heavily in debt. Soon afterwards he bought the Chalmers company and, in 1924, launched a completely new car called Chrysler. This six cylinder model had a number of engineering refinements including four-wheel hydraulic brakes. Chrysler cars came to Australia during the 1920's and, in 1935, 18 independent agents formed Chrysler-Dodge-De Soto Distributors (Australia) Pty Ltd. The distributors used their combined strength to purchase and market Plymouth, Dodge and De Soto vehicles. The company acquired a controlling interest in T.J. Richards & Sons, a highly successful Adelaide based body building company which had been the main competitor for Holden's body builders since 1922. For several years T.J. Richards had designed and fitted bodies to locally made Chrysler vehicles. For the 1937-38 selling season, T.J.Richards beat Holden's to the punch by producing Australia's first all steel sedan body. For several years T.J.Richards had designed and fitted bodies to locally made Chrysler vehicles. For the 1937-38 selling season, T.J.Richards beat Holden's to the punch by producing Australia's first all steel sedan body. During World War 2 Chrysler-Dodge-De Soto Distributors manufactured munitions and aircraft components. Most of the skilled workforce remained when the firm returned to motor vehicle production in 1945. The company was entirely owned by Australians until June 1951 when Chrysler Corporation bought a controlling interest and Changed the name to Chrysler Australia Ltd. A vigorous expansion plan followed, and inspired by the success of Holden, Chrysler Australia aimed at producing a range of cars and light commercial vehicles with 90 percent local content.Hope this helpsWayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Thanks Guys.That is some great info.Nozzle. Yes there is a lot of wood on this car. My top bows are OK they have warped a bit but the wood is all there in the whole car so I could easily replace any of it should it be deemed as bad.there were no badges on the body or the firewall. Someone has painted this car along the way....may have even been restored once as the frame trans and motor are all painted and the paint is still pretty decent.I would love to find the badges for a TJ body so if there are any out there for sale let me know.The car is in storage now but I will visit it later this week and try to get some pics of the top bows for you.G'day.Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nozzle Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 MopI can get you a flat body plate but the one with the Kangaroo usually comes from a later model and they seem pretty hard to find - my email address is wellery@asia.com send me you details and will get one to you.Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Check the floor boards for any tags or badges.Manuel in Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 There are no floor boards forward of the seats. The drive train is exposed all the way up the firewall. I looked over it when I first got it for some kind of identification and couldn't find any. Is there other places to look that I may have missed......Thanks,Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Here is the main, center piece for the flat floor area.1931 1932 Plymouth PA DeSoto Transmission Cover Floor | eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Here is the main, center piece for the flat floor area.1931 1932 Plymouth PA DeSoto Transmission Cover Floor | eBayI saw that last week. Will it work for a right hand drive car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) I just looked at your interior and it looks like it will work. Here are the other pieces. These are the metal pieces that go up the slope of the floor rails. Now, these (or at least the upper one) will have to come from a right hand drive car. The first photo shows them as they would look on the floor. The second photo shows how they separate and the third photo shows where the plywood pieces fit into the metal panels. The fourth photo is the rear side. The cutout in the middle is where the piece on ebay fits. These are for my 1931. Yours may differ slightly. John Edited September 22, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Sweet.Thanks for the pics. I'm gonna buy teh ebay floor board and if I have to I can cut out a new slot and patch back in the other with what I remove. I could do the same with the other pieces I need. Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) Kinda what I was thinking. Now, if you get a left hand drive upper piece, the big deal would be to reverse the "bumps" for the screw heads. There is also supposed to be a sound/heat deadening pad about 1/2" to 3/4" think on the rear sides of the panels. You may be able to see the outline of where they were. Edited September 22, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 a little heat, a hammer and a piece of wood with a hole in it would take care of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I bought the floor piece so if anyone has the other pieces let me know.Will post later. Keep the info coming.Thanks again,Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 32DL6 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 There is also supposed to be a sound/heat deadening pad about 1/2" to 3/4" think on the rear sides of the panels.Try to use something fireproof. A chunk my original pad fell down against the hot exhaust pipe under it and caught fire! Not good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Maybe I get fancy and put a sheet metal heat shield between floor and trans/engine....I will look for something more up to code when we get there. Driver first then details later right mate?Keep em coming...I'm going to the cave to get some pics of the top bows for Nozzle.Thanks as always,Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Ease up of the crudness (lots of laughs) of the Aussie bodies - down under the main manufacturer was Holden and I know of several including my own that have lasted the test of time.can send you the link to the production numbers if you like!!Good luck with it - need any help down under give us a yellCheersDo you have a link for production numbers in Aussie land? Would love to see....I found some already but nothing specific to down underland..Thanks mateMop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Do you have a link for production numbers in Aussie land? Would love to see....I found some already but nothing specific to down underland..Thanks mateMop There is a book called "The History of Holden Since 1917"by Norm Darwin.It has a lot of information and pictures of Aussie bodied cars from the early days through to 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Nozzle.What pics of the top do you need? I got some close ups and far aways.Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I found this manual on e-bay and thought it would help me with my car. What do you think? Looks like it covers the years and models that would pertain to my car.Plymouth Master Parts Book 1928 1929 1930 1931 32 1933 | eBayMop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 So good news on the floors. I am only missing the part that was on e-bay. I just have to make some plywood pieces and I have a complete floor.So here are some pics of the happy realization and the top for Nozzle.Thanks for the help.Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Some of that information in the book will be very helpful to you. Is that steering wheel broken? It looks to be the same as the 1931 DH6 and 1932 DL6. The 1931 Plymouth PA, 1931 Chrysler CM6 and the 1931 DeSoto SA6 steering wheels should be the same. Edited September 29, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 OK.Thanks keiser31.Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Dont waste your money on that manual, Faxon does not know how to bind a book properly and the pages will fall out one by one in short time. Originals pop up on e-bay every now and again for less than the asking price of the repro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 OK I will keep looking for an original.Yes the steering wheels is shot...broken and bent and soggy...it bends like a pipe cleaner.need one...anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Re: the Ply Parts Book.It may be OK for mechanicals but Oz bodies are different.Keep an eye on Oz Ebay.Manuel in Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yes I realize the body....at least some of it is different. I am more concerned about the mechanics so that is why I am looking at these manuals.Do you have some specific info I need to be concerned with?I'm all ears.Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbarfarm31 Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hi Moparman....I have an excellent gas tank and radiator for a 32 if you are needing? Thanks, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 32DL6 Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 Dodge didn't make a domestic roadster in 1932...a few convertible coupes, yes, but nary a roadster.A 32 DL6 convertible coupe has always been my dream car...and, at long last, here one is!I've never actually seen or heard of one (that wasn't hot-rodded) until I stumbled on this image tonight. Only 226 were made. Ain't she purrty?Anyone else know of one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nozzle Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hey BlokeHave you TJ Body tag where do I send it - All so have a link for Australian Body Production but it is for Holden - will give you an idea Holden Body Builders Production 1927 - 1930CheersHope this helpsNoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Phil...that '32 IS awfully nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nozzle Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 MopI bought the CD version of the manual and when I need a specific page I just printed it out and laminated it and took it to the garage - also if it gets messed up you can just print of another - with the manuals from the US havent found anything to different on my 29 Ply except some body panels and mountings but the mechanics seem identical - excpect of course where the Righ Hand Drive components come in to play.Most of the cars the were imported into Australia where flat packed (cant remember the correct term - Keiser???) with dash forward and the body was constructed and installed here - so the mechs seem identical except as mentioned above.Sorry Mate I lost your email (the young bloke must have deleted it) for you address so I can send you tag over.Thanks for the pics - the door mechanism is identical to my 29 Ply.CheersNoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 NozE-mail is veeinkc@prodigy.netI will send you me address when you respond. Hope the bow pics were what you needed. If not I will take more. Just tell me what you need.Thanks,Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hi Moparman....I have an excellent gas tank and radiator for a 32 if you are needing? Thanks, JimLet me check mine out....car is very rust free and was inside for 30+ years so I may be OK.Just so I can budget how much for each and can you post some pics. 3 views each.Thanks,Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Noz,Love to see some pics of your 29 especially the dash board and and all the controls.Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Just want to thank Nozzle for sending me the badge....no charge to boot.I really appreciate it and my family though that was the coolest thing.Cant wait to get it mounted on the car.....by the way....where does it mount?Thanks again Wayne...your a good bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Which badge is it?The round one with the roo or the rectangular one with the wings and King of the road" that has the no stamped on it?Manuel in Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Manuel,It was the one with the wings and the number stamped....I am still looking for the kangaroo.....any thoughts?Thanks for the reply mate.Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nozzle Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 MopNo worries mate - all I want is some picture of the car in certain areas if possible - bodies like yours are rare down here in that condition - I will look through the pictures u have as to where to place the winged badge (I might be able to something about the number you need to stamp on it so you can get it right) - still looking for the round one have it here somewhere!Cheers & God BlessNozzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What ever you need Nozzle..... I am so stoked about getting into this car it's ridiculous.I have to finish my wife's car first.....our cruising season ended tonight with the start of ice and snow.....so hers is back on the main BarbQ.Hate to put my Fat Blu Fish (Pictured) away for the season but it's time to move on to the her Jamaican Blue Baby Roadster.I'll post a pic of her roadster (69 barracuda vert) later when I get back into it...she's a rusty beech.Thanks again....just ask when your ready for pics or info. That goes for everyone else too.Thanks,Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoparman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 How many of these roadsters do you think are still left?Mop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Hey Mop, like your Barracuda! I have a 68 notchback 340 4 speed. Always wanted a 67-9 convertible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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