Landman Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 This should have been posting #81 or so, after the suspension, before the wheels. Ah well...New spindle bushings, seals and radius arms were installed in the front backing plates. Then the rest of the brake hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenHupp20 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Cleaned up nicely indeed ! What method did you use ? Very nice work, and nice job telling the story . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 Cleaned up nicely indeed ! What method did you use ? Very nice work, and nice job telling the story .I took it all apart and wirebrushed each part individually, then reassembled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 landman, what a pretty "mile-a-minute" speedster. Ours is a touring car but I do love a good speedster!! That Sieberling tire sign in pic 2 on the barn is gorgeous too, my little brother dated a descendant of Sieberling. Her mother always told her that her great grandpa had some little tire business named for the family. what a joy it was sharing the rich history of sieberling tires with her. We have a single tire Sieberling stand from the teens that I was able to show her and watch her jawdrop. Good Times!! Keep up the work. I have a 27 Marmon Model L that is twenty years in resto and getting closer by the week. It's great to read your story and wish for the free time and mad skills you show on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41specialman Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 41 Specialman, does your coupe still have its trunklid supports?PatHello, yes it does it is a complete running driver. not the best looking but still solid for the age. has a 57 six with powerglide and olds rear end all steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 2, 2011 Author Share Posted March 2, 2011 landman, what a pretty "mile-a-minute" speedster. Ours is a touring car but I do love a good speedster!! That Sieberling tire sign in pic 2 on the barn is gorgeous too, my little brother dated a descendant of Sieberling. Her mother always told her that her great grandpa had some little tire business named for the family. what a joy it was sharing the rich history of sieberling tires with her. We have a single tire Sieberling stand from the teens that I was able to show her and watch her jawdrop. Good Times!! Keep up the work. I have a 27 Marmon Model L that is twenty years in resto and getting closer by the week. It's great to read your story and wish for the free time and mad skills you show on this thread.Sambarn,I understand Mile-a-minute roadsters are rather scarce. I remember the owners saying that someone in Chicago had taken parts off theirs and shipped to them for copying. They used a rubber pyramid mat as a model to cast the aluminum floorboards and running boards. They had to recast the floorboards a couple of times as they would shrink during cooling and the pedal holes wouldn't fit. A very talented tinsmith fabricated the gas tank. The wheels were respoked by a Mennonite wheelwright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raywilks Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 landman, where are you? i may be going into withdrawal symptons soon! hope all is well, i miss your input, thanks, ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 I'm still here Ray, don't worry. Was rather busy the last few days and didn't do any posting. Put the body back on the frame to free up a bay for the missus' car and to try and adjust the doors. Stripped the fenders & the hood. Primed everything. That was November 2010. We are now pretty well caught up with the postings. The next postings will be more or less in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raywilks Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 looiks great!!! one helluva run!! i wish i had something left from my 34 master tudor to give you but a few pictures and a lot of good memories are all that is left. we will wait for updates and i sure am proud of what you did with what some people might call a pile of scrap. that would scare the average man to start with only what you had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 In this town, there is a club for retirees which is a fully equipped shop, metal, machine and wood. People go there and tinker. The ones that have skills build stuff on a voluntary basis. It turns out, one of the fellows who does some welding was an old type bodyman (one who fixes panels instead of replacing them). I took one hood panel, the tailpan and the trunklid to him and he shrank the stretched areas. The photos show the tell tale dime-size burn marks. You can almost see it happening. Fascinating.The other thing I did is figure out where the seat tracks go under the seat frame and where the glider knobs go on the floor of the car. Thanks to patterns sent to me by a fellow hobbyist in Calgary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Landman, our car is pretty correct, is there anything you need a photo of?? I'll be in the garage tomorrow morning. Let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 Sam,Two things. Firstly,when I took photos & made templates of my floorboards for someone the other day I noticed that there is no provision in my toe board for the accelerator rod. If you could provide me with a way to figure the shape & location of that, it would be great.Secondly, a picture of the car in your avatar. What is it?I'm sure something'll come up later. If the offer still stands, I'll holler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Landman, that's our 1927 Marmon E75 Speedster, body by E.H.Wilson of Moline, Ill. built as the factory prototype with 1926 fenders. Google Marmon Wilson 1927, the concept carz website features some pics of the car. I'll shoot pics of the floorboards tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 Cleaned up the hood latch rods. Since the boss on the one from my car had a crack and the rod had been brazed, I removed the corresponding one from the parts car's hood. Primed and installed with rivet head bolts. They get painted with the hood, body color. Handles will be removed and either rechromed or relaced by new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 It turns out the roof "insert" is a bit offset to the driver's side not leaving a lot of meat to bolt through. I made some pieces to thicken it at that location to give more purchase and support for the bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfourfire Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Landman, I'm brand new to the site and I'm very impressed. I am beginning to restore the roof of a 29 Whippet and I need to replace some of the wood structure. I'm wondering where you referenced your woodworking and if there is a book or site I can refer to to help me along. I just want to tackle the roof for now because I enjoy driving it daily now that the season is near.Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Rick,In my case it was easy since there are suppliers of Chevrolet wood. I purchased some of the piecesand copied others . In your case, I'd look for a Whippet club, other Whippet owners or literature about Whippet like a "Body Manual" which may show the wood skeleton by itself like the image below from the 1934 "Fisher Body Manual". Hope this helps.Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Landman, I'm brand new to the site and I'm very impressed. I am beginning to restore the roof of a 29 Whippet and I need to replace some of the wood structure. I'm wondering where you referenced your woodworking and if there is a book or site I can refer to to help me along. I just want to tackle the roof for now because I enjoy driving it daily now that the season is near.Rick.Rick,Try www.wokr.org . It is the Willys Overland Knight Registry. They may have what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Landman, sorry to be so slow, lots of projects keeping me running. Here are the promised floor board shots and color scheme. - sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Thanks Sam,Would it be too much to ask for measurements to the center of the hole? Like for example 2in. from the top and 14in. from the left edges of the board. I don't know how I missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Thanks Sam,Would it be too much to ask for measurements to the center of the hole? Like for example 2in. from the top and 14in. from the left edges of the board. I don't know how I missed that.Actually Sam,If you look at posting #51, the hole is visible in the first photo. I could try and scale it off that.Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Pat, I'll go up in a minute and get those measurements after one more coffee and a shower. Anything else you need while I'm here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 BTW, how do you like the color scheme - It's still my favorite from that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Yes I like it. What'it called again?As for the toe board, maybe the size of the hole and a description of the gasket/bushing/packing/rubber thing that the rod rides in. Is that all rubber or rubber on steel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Pat, It's a split rubber washer/bushing inside of the screwed on steel ring. Rod is about 3/8" with a ball on the end (see pic 1). The outside top edge of the ring is about 1/4" from the top of the floorboard and roughly 2 1/4" from the edge of the ring to the edge of the metal plate that the clutch and brake run through. The center lines up with screws on the bottom edge of the same metal plate. Entire ring - about 2 inches (it was really unpleasant holding up the mat and insulation to take the pics and hold the tape, sorry for the "about" measurements) in diameter. I'll send a couple more pics next. I bought the gas pedal from Chevy's of the forties, they may have a rod as well. Its position will help determine position for the "ring"/Hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 A few more pics of the floor -Hope this helps - SamP.S. - the color is Pueble (or navajo) Gold and Swamp Lily Orange. An original color scheme, The AACA Library has the color chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 I guess I forgot to press "submit" on my last one. Thanks muchly. Do I owe you anything for all this work? I there's anything I can do, Holler.Thanks again, Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarn Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Betsy ( our 34) was the first car I ever bonded with. Helping keep her sister's on the road is pay enough!! Feel free to call 205-482-0165 or write samdbarnett@bellsouth.net if you need anything at all, I'd be glad to help!. I just found out I need to replace the wiring harness last night on Betsy, frayed and shorting out the headlight fuse!! Fun! So I'll probably turn to the DF for advice. - Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Nothing very exciting. Spoke to the engine rebuilder and several people, since NOS crankshafts and rods are available, we'll go that route.Diasssembled both motors in preparation of the rebuild. Do not hold your breaths, I have to put the money together first.Meanwhile I'll clean up all the parts that don't need rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 I decided to start with the little stuff. Everything was in oily baggies so I set up a little cabinet complete with labeled drawers to receive all the small engine parts and fasteners.Away I went in the parts cleaner and on the wire wheel. Too bad it's too noisy to have the music on. It's tedious but somebody has to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 WOW, now that is DETAIL. I like it. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Cleaning more engine parts. Today, spark plug wire looms, a few more bolts, throttle linkage, starterator shaft & linkage. Starterator dashpot. I wonder how you test a dashpot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Very nice detailing - but I have to ask, what is a "Starterater"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unimogjohn Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Landman, re the dashpot. Since it is run off of vacuum you can suck on it to see if it functions. And if you can hold your breath long enough, you can sense it leaking. But for a better way, I use a little Mighty Vacuum pump. You have to be careful that you do not give it too much vacuum or you might burst the rubber inside the dashpot. I just pull enough to get a reading and then let it sit and watch the needle. If it goes to zero then I would suspect that it is bad. If it holds the vacuum, then you are good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 36chev Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 If it turns out you need the starterator dashpot (vacuum assembly), I think I may have a NOS one. The parts are not handy, but I can look through them in the next few weeks. I also may have already sold it--my memory doesn't recall. Just let me know if interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 Very nice detailing - but I have to ask, what is a "Starterater"?Tex,The starterator is a device which combines the accelerator with the starter button. When it works, you depress the accelerator which catches the starter linkage and starts the car. Once vacuum is established, the vacuum unit withdraws the rod and the accelerator returns to its function. It mounts to the bell housing. I attach a drawing and a photo in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 Cleaned more engine parts today and primed them. :cool:Had a mishap with the water pump. Tested the starterator dashpot with a vacuum pump & it doesn't hold. :confused:And yes, 36 Chevy, I might be interested if you can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Awesome work Landman ! Your a great inspiration in many ways. I'm a younger man (47) that has recently fallen in love with just about every kind of restoration work in the last 5-7 years. Everything from working on the old American made tools (mainly large vises) to furniture and prewar vehicles. I particularly love the 28-32 body styles and have always had an interest in that era since I was a young boy but I have to say this is one very nice 34 project you have going here and I admire your tenacity and effort. Keep up the good work young man and thank you for documenting the process. Edited April 1, 2011 by 30DodgePanel typos (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dictator27 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Had a mishap with the water pump. Owtch!!!!:mad: Bummer Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Thanks, 30Chrysler. I have to admit that a few times I wondering what I got myself into. That's nothing, I have to do the bodywork yet. The photos don't show the million nicks,hammer divots and weld valleys on there.Terry, I have another pump and rest assured, it is not going in the vise held by one ear only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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